Phil12
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It will also help with the zip line that is going in from the Contemporary to the Christmas Shop in the MK.
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The Big Berm Theory
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tl77
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Why.... that's exactly what I said, and I figured it out all by myself ...WDWMAGIC? Worthless!
Cmdr_Crimson
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Sorry.....Had to be done....
Doug Richardson
New Member
I have old Disney literature which boasts the only "outside world" that can be seen from the Magic Kingdom is the Contemporary, and (appropriately) from one spot in Tomorrowland. It was also a very sad loss when the trees at the hub were removed. I think the concept was to provide a city park-like green area and, with the castle view partially blocked, people would want to move in that direction to see it. As someone who's been visiting Walt Disney World since 1972, I often wonder what the new generation of Imagineers are thinking!
Oh the good ole days, now we have a parking lot instead.Young people may not be aware that up until ~2001, the Central Hub was filled with fat, gorgeous shade trees, which solved that sightline issue from Liberty Square as seen in the first post of this thread. The hub was designed as the visual curtain between lands, obscuring enough to insulate and showing enough to draw interest to what lay beyond. The central trees and this curtain effect were sacrificed to open the area to castle show/fireworks viewing. Some think it a worthwhile trade-off, but I preferred the tree curtain and all that relaxing shade and Old World feel over the opened, barren center and easier to see castle/fireworks shows.
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Brad Bishop
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Also, they'd need to be IP based trees and bridges.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
How’s that monorail expansion between International Gateway, Caribbean Beach and Disney’s Hollywood Studios coming along?
Darn tootin' - why should Tinkerbell get all the fun?
admiralDax
Member
My theory is that the berm changes will yield either an entrance or (probably) exit from Tron.
GlacierGlacier
Well-Known Member
I love all the theories being made up for this.
It's a berm.
It's got a wall for the steep retention pond.
It's going to have the WDWRR track over it.
Nothing more.
It's a berm.
It's got a wall for the steep retention pond.
It's going to have the WDWRR track over it.
Nothing more.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
These changes are no where near the ride.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
It wasn't a design decision, it was a logistical / operational decision, and a necessary one. The hub had to be opened up because the previous one was a pinch point bordering on a safety issue. The hub is part art, part infrastructure, and the infrastructure had to be addressed.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
The infrastructure had to be addressed because the park lacks sufficient capacity Due to decades of trying to keep people on walkways and not in attractions. The infrastructure also could have been expanded while incorporating more softscape.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
No matter how much capacity is added in the lands, the hub will bear the brunt of the logistical burden at 9pm every night.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Because of design decisions.
What else did the bus driver tell you?
kap91
Well-Known Member
BRING BACK THE FAT TREES!Young people may not be aware that up until ~2001, the Central Hub was filled with fat, gorgeous shade trees, which solved that sightline issue from Liberty Square as seen in the first post of this thread. The hub was designed as the visual curtain between lands, obscuring enough to insulate and showing enough to draw interest to what lay beyond. The central trees and this curtain effect were sacrificed to open the area to castle show/fireworks viewing. Some think it a worthwhile trade-off, but I preferred the tree curtain and all that relaxing shade and Old World feel over the opened, barren center and easier to see castle/fireworks shows.
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And plant more everywhere there's more than a 10x10 expanse of concrete!
Brad Bishop
Well-Known Member
Young people may not be aware that up until ~2001, the Central Hub was filled with fat, gorgeous shade trees, which solved that sightline issue from Liberty Square as seen in the first post of this thread. The hub was designed as the visual curtain between lands, obscuring enough to insulate and showing enough to draw interest to what lay beyond. The central trees and this curtain effect were sacrificed to open the area to castle show/fireworks viewing. Some think it a worthwhile trade-off, but I preferred the tree curtain and all that relaxing shade and Old World feel over the opened, barren center and easier to see castle/fireworks shows.
The other bit you touch on, which I think bears repeating, is that the hub used to be a kind of relaxing / dead space area. You didn't have some "Pump It! Jam It! Stuff It!" parade happening every 45min nor did you have a stage show happening every hour in front of the castle. It was just this relaxing area (transitionary) between lands.
It's unfortunate that it's gone and it'll never be back. You can't monetize a relaxing, dead area.
The trees (and on a wider scale, the benches) disappearing was definitely a loss, IMO.