Brad Bishop
Well-Known Member
The trees (and on a wider scale, the benches) disappearing was definitely a loss, IMO.
The whole message is: We need to keep you on your feet and doing something (spending money) at all times!
The trees (and on a wider scale, the benches) disappearing was definitely a loss, IMO.
The whole message is: We need to keep you on your feet and doing something (spending money) at all times!
The tress also hid some of the floats for the daytime and nighttime parades (Especially during the 1990s).The other bit you touch on, which I think bears repeating, is that the hub used to be a kind of relaxing / dead space area. You didn't have some "Pump It! Jam It! Stuff It!" parade happening every 45min nor did you have a stage show happening every hour in front of the castle. It was just this relaxing area (transitionary) between lands.
It's unfortunate that it's gone and it'll never be back. You can't monetize a relaxing, dead area.
The whole message is: We need to keep you on your feet and doing something (spending money) at all times!
I dare say it's both, really. Obviously the hub redesign was to increase traffic flow and crowd handling for the shows and fireworks. Benches can cause... Issues with people trying to "reserve" them, congregating around them, yada yada. But the WHOLE park suffers from this - not just the hub.I thought the message was, "We're doing so well that we're swamped with twice the number of people than this park was built for and even steep price hikes won't keep them away, and so, we have to keep making more and more room for them."
I dare say it's both, really. Obviously the hub redesign was to increase traffic flow and crowd handling for the shows and fireworks. Benches can cause... Issues with people trying to "reserve" them, congregating around them, yada yada. But the WHOLE park suffers from this - not just the hub.
Maybe the berm project is to set up a ton of benches and people can go chill out over there under some trees.![]()
It’s always bugged me seeing backstage from the train, I’d love to see that addressed. Unfortunately the Contemporary is probably only going to be hidden with more trees inside the park between liberty square and hub and I don’t see that happening again due to crowd levels.
I doubt it’s for this, but good catch and pun! It’s always bugged me seeing backstage from the train, I’d love to see that addressed. Unfortunately the Contemporary is probably only going to be hidden with more trees inside the park between liberty square and hub and I don’t see that happening again due to crowd levels.
That has never really bugged me. After all, you're entering Tomorrowland. You don't see the Contemporary until after you pass Space Mountain. Perfectly reasonable that the view would open up at that point to see the Contemporary.
Casey's Corner, the Astro turf grass, the music all they need is a baseball field with bleachers. They already have a G.O.A.T statue (since 1995) like a real sports stadium. The modern skyboxes can go on the Tomorrowland side.The obvious answer is to fill the hub with bleachers. That will handle the crowds, bring back bench seating, and block the view of the Contemporary from Liberty Square
Or, the answer is in my sig below...
BTDT. After all, isn't that where they put the infamous "Cabana Experiment"?The modern skyboxes can go on the Tomorrowland side.
The pond is being dug deeper and longer/wider. Once they are done with this terraced wall they will dig out the pond more. When complete it will make more sense.Just to throw another log on this fire...
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I thought the message was, "We're doing so well that we're swamped with twice the number of people than this park was built for and even steep price hikes won't keep them away, and so, we have to keep making more and more room for them."
Yeah, that's definitely clearer. And if you look at the height variations of the built walls, you can see how the fill will undulate. Still, it seems a bit odd. Guess we'll find out pretty soon!Here's the water management site plan. The wavy retaining walls and the gradient of the land around the expanded pond are quite discernible.
The pond is being dug deeper and longer/wider. Once they are done with this terraced wall they will dig out the pond more. When complete it will make more sense.
What exactly seems odd?Yeah, that's definitely clearer. And if you look at the height variations of the built walls, you can see how the fill will undulate. Still, it seems a bit odd. Guess we'll find out pretty soon!
The gradient of the drop seems pretty steep, raised pond level or not. I guess that's why they needed the retaining walls. Still, I think they could've extended south and not cut in as deeply.What exactly seems odd?
Aw shucks..... I was hoping it was going to be an expansion of the Speedway.Here's the water management site plan. The wavy retaining walls and the gradient of the land around the expanded pond are quite discernible.
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It is! They're going to call it "The Thelma and Louise Liberation Experience" and it's an additional $2,855 per person (theme park admission required) because each car can go off the edge only once. (They can reuse the body, but the engine is usually kaput after hitting the water running)Aw shucks..... I was hoping it was going to be an expansion of the Speedway.![]()
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