The “wealthy” is not going to work

[Lilofan]

Of course the wealthy are not going to work, they aren't called the idle rich for nothing!

Be nice to the wealthy. One day you will be working for one.

 

[JMcMahonEsq]

Ranked how?

Because that’s a highly subjective thing…”high”…when it’s not compared to what you get out of it. And it’s hard To do that in an unbiased way. But it’s always presented as “objective” by fools who want to pound their fist and rant.

No it’s not. It’s very easy to determine objectively based upon percentages. It’s math with is objective. And ranked on percentage of property value. No one cares about subjective opinions on what you get out of it. High taxes are high taxes. It doesn’t matter what you think your taxes are buying you

 

[JMcMahonEsq]

Nope…not that at all. So we can skip that AND the cable “news” line of crap that’s on the hook in your jaw.

And move on.

“High” and “Low” are not effective labels here without context.

God that is such BS. High based on percentage of property value is high. It’s a simple percentage comparison. Context doesn’t mean when looking at high or low. Value maybe but that is subjective and not worth considering

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

No it’s not. It’s very easy to determine objectively based upon percentages. It’s math with is objective. And ranked on percentage of property value. No one cares about subjective opinions on what you get out of it. High taxes are high taxes. It doesn’t matter what you think your taxes are buying you

God that is such BS. High based on percentage of property value is high. It’s a simple percentage comparison. Context doesn’t mean **** when looking at high or low. Value maybe but that is subjective and not worth considering

So you’re gonna be the in incensed contrarian? Yeah…I got it.
We don’t have to Agree…cause we never will apparently.

To break everything down to a basic math equation without any details is intellectually false. But it’s your jam and I’m not gonna fight it.

 

[Stellajack]

It wasn't that hot in late September and you can tell by a number of factors, quality of the clothing, body language, speech patterns etc. etc.

Huh?

 

[mikejs78]

This response isnt directed to you but just in general. 200k in place A can go a lot further than say place B. So location / cost of living plays a huge factor as opposed to people throwing out a number and saying if you make this so on and so forth.

I mean, sure. For me, I live in a suburb of Boston, so not among the least expensive areas of the country by any stretch.

 

[crazy4disney]

I mean, sure. For me, I live in a suburb of Boston, so not among the least expensive areas of the country by any stretch.

I live in NY. One of more expensive areas of Brooklyn & work in the city. So on & so forth. So yea i feel your pain

 

[bryanfze55]

$600,000…that’s the part that sticks out. And they probably have a full time fire department 10 miles away that could be there in 7 minutes…and a hospital within 15 and a a state police barracks and three local police departments.

Or you could pay $4000 a year for crappy schools in a depressed area where you can sell your house for $120,000…

I used to have really nothing to say about taxes either way…then I kinda grew up and collected information and watched humans and came to realizations.

There’s no perfect place or policy…just shades of grey.

Utah always stands out to me. You can pay property taxes of about $1,000 on a $400,000 home… yet educational achievement is among the highest in the country. I think we know why - family stability and support is more important than a subjective greatschools.com rating. It just so happens family stability and high property tax rates often correlate. You can get a great education in any state or a poor education in any state.

 

[eliza61nyc]

I live in NY. One of more expensive areas of Brooklyn & work in the city. So on & so forth. So yea i feel your pain

Lol, I actually moved from NYC (Harlem girl here) to South Jersey and then Philadelphia thinking anyplace would have a lower cost of living . My property taxes were 12,000 bucks last year. The price for being a city girl. I keep thinking if I just moved I could probably get in an extra Disney trip.

 

[Lilofan]

Lol, I actually moved from NYC (Harlem girl here) to South Jersey and then Philadelphia thinking anyplace would have a lower cost of living . My property taxes were 12,000 bucks last year. The price for being a city girl. I keep thinking if I just moved I could probably get in an extra Disney trip.

And to ponder why some in PA take the long commute to NYC or NJ because COL is less in PA. One guy I know was questioned " Are you rich ?" When instead of moving down South for retirement he chose to remain and retire in NJ. NJ is one of the most corrupt ( seems like run by the Sopranos ) and most expensive places to live but it sure has great food.

 

[crazy4disney]

Lol, I actually moved from NYC (Harlem girl here) to South Jersey and then Philadelphia thinking anyplace would have a lower cost of living . My property taxes were 12,000 bucks last year. The price for being a city girl. I keep thinking if I just moved I could probably get in an extra Disney trip.

Hahaha. Just move to Fla. Problem solved lol

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Lol, I actually moved from NYC (Harlem girl here) to South Jersey and then Philadelphia thinking anyplace would have a lower cost of living . My property taxes were 12,000 bucks last year. The price for being a city girl. I keep thinking if I just moved I could probably get in an extra Disney trip.

So what has your experience taught you?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Hahaha. Just move to Fla. Problem solved lol

As long as you need absolutely nothing. The weather is your “tax base” there

 

[eliza61nyc]

Hahaha. Just move to Fla. Problem solved lol

lol, believe me I've got Fla and SC in my cross hairs. One advantage though is I think WDW food prices are pretty reasonable. I giggle when folks here complain about the cost of drinks in the world. You know it's time to leave when 16.00 toll seems pretty reasonable and 3.50 for a bottle of coke is routine.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

And to ponder why some in PA take the long commute to NYC or NJ because COL is less in PA. One guy I know was questioned " Are you rich ?" When instead of moving down South for retirement he chose to remain and retire in NJ. NJ is one of the most corrupt ( seems like run by the Sopranos ) and most expensive places to live but it sure has great food.

There’s a good myth too.

Where in Pennsylvania is it cheaper? The 9 counties with people in them? Of the 58 with only deer?

We’re spinning all the hits here.

 

[eliza61nyc]

So what has your experience taught you?

lol, that I need to pull a "Diana Ross" and find me a rich handsome Greek man to keep me in creature comforts.

Big cities and WDW are my kryptonite. no matter what the cost I'll probably kick the bucket still hanging out at both places.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

lol, believe me I've got Fla and SC in my cross hairs. One advantage though is I think WDW food prices are pretty reasonable. I giggle when folks here complain about the cost of drinks in the world. You know it's time to leave when 16.00 toll seems pretty reasonable and 3.50 for a bottle of coke is routine.

Because the prices have been steadily hacked up for everything - across the board - in the last 20-25 years of stock and real estate drunkenness when everyone “got rich”. It’s kinda silly to have this whole debate - where’s “cheap” and where it isn’t?

 

[networkpro]

Hahaha. Just move to Fla. Problem solved lol

Exchanging one set of local problems for another

 

[Lilofan]

Because the prices have been steadily hacked up for everything - across the board - in the last 20-25 years of stock and real estate drunkenness when everyone “got rich”. It’s kinda silly to have this whole debate - where’s “cheap” and where it isn’t?

Sell home in NJ for $900K , paying $25K annual property tax , buy golf course condo w full clubhouse amenities in FL for $300-400K , $4K annual property tax, sounds cheaper to me.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Utah always stands out to me. You can pay property taxes of about $1,000 on a $400,000 home… yet educational achievement is among the highest in the country. I think we know why - family stability and support is more important than a subjective greatschools.com rating. It just so happens family stability and high property tax rates often correlate. You can get a great education in any state or a poor education in any state.

What is the elephant in the room about Utah? I’m not debating merits…just saying there is one glaring difference.

So how’s the quality of 10 states “lower” in property taxes? Or the 10 above?

Subjective…or objective?