TEAM SPACE BRAINSTORMING THREAD

[MickeyWaffleCo.]

Budweiser Zero isn’t alcohol ? Or did they change sonething now? I haven’t been looking tbh

Oh yes I suppose so. I meant just beer companies in general, even if the actual drink isn’t alcoholic. Anyway we should do a competing sponsorship

 

[tcool123]

The World Above Pavilion presented by Delta or Boeing​

Opening Day Pavilion:

• Take Flight - @tcool123
• The Sky was the Limit: A History of Aviation
• Forecast Follies - @Brer Panther and @TheSquirrel
• Walt Disney's Airplane - @tcool123
• Tastemoshphere - @Disney Dad 3000 (I believe he said he'd be down to take on the restaurants)
• Aviators Club - @Disney Dad 3000 (I believe he said he'd be down to take on the restaurants)
• Delta/Boeing Lounge - @Disney Dad 3000
• Runway Gifts

Changes to Pavilion:

• 1996: Ludwig Von Drake presents The Sky was the Limit: A History of Aviation
• 2000: Forecast Follies 2.0 - @Brer Panther and @TheSquirrel
• 2004/5: Take Flight closes and Soarin replaces it
  • Soarin - @MickeyWaffleCo.
    • Possible update in 2016? - @MickeyWaffleCo.
• 2027 (Pavilion's 40th and Epcot's 45th Anniversary): KUKA Arm Coaster - @Solaris Knight

Miscellaneous:

• Music - @MickeyWaffleCo.
• Logo (both @MickeyWaffleCo. and @Disney Dad 3000 expressed interest)
• Map Throughout the Years - @Disney Dad 3000
• artwork for the exterior - @Disney Dad 3000
• Ads - @Disney Dad 3000 *

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@ThemeParkPriest and @b-wolf95 this leaves the Walkthrough/Film History of Aviation and the giftshop up for grabs

Oh yes I suppose so. I meant just beer companies in general, even if the actual drink isn’t alcoholic. Anyway we should do a competing sponsorship

Like for the pavilion or for the post?

We could do beverage is proudly carried by pavilion sponsor on flights

 

[MickeyWaffleCo.]

Like for the pavilion or for the post?

We could do beverage is proudly carried by pavilion sponsor on flights

I was thinking the post and team in general, since the pavilion is going to be Boeing or Delta.

Just thought it’d be funny.

 

[tcool123]

Gotc

I was thinking the post and team in general, since the pavilion is going to be Boeing or Delta.

Just thought it’d be funny.

ha go for it, sounds fun

 

[MickeyWaffleCo.]

Righty-o, here’s the Google Site editing link.

Google Drive: Sign-in

Access Google Drive with a Google account (for personal use) or Google Workspace account (for business use).

sites.google.com

 

[Disney Dad 3000]

Okay, what about presentation format? As much as I hate to say “let’s do a Google Site again”, I think that’ll work best with the whole multiple time period thing. I could set one up today, if everyone’s okay with that.

Sites is fine with me.

This is an example of pitches we did for a Future World (Microverse) and World Showcase (Turkey) pavilion a few years ago set in the 80's one stanza. Give you an idea of the style and research we used since it was also in the 80's. We tried to mimic the Switzerland expansion plans notebook. Obviously a site doesn't work that way but hopefully helpful with how they planned things out then.

Microverse

Turkey

The World Above Pavilion presented by Delta or Boeing​

Opening Day Pavilion:

• Take Flight - @tcool123
• The Sky was the Limit: A History of Aviation
• Forecast Follies - @Brer Panther and @TheSquirrel
• Walt Disney's Airplane - @tcool123
• Tastemoshphere - @Disney Dad 3000 (I believe he said he'd be down to take on the restaurants)
• Aviators Club - @Disney Dad 3000 (I believe he said he'd be down to take on the restaurants)
• Delta/Boeing Lounge - @Disney Dad 3000
• Runway Gifts

Changes to Pavilion:

• 1996: Ludwig Von Drake presents The Sky was the Limit: A History of Aviation
• 2000: Forecast Follies 2.0 - @Brer Panther and @TheSquirrel
• 2004/5: Take Flight closes and Soarin replaces it
  • Soarin - @MickeyWaffleCo.
    • Possible update in 2016? - @MickeyWaffleCo.
• 2027 (Pavilion's 40th and Epcot's 45th Anniversary): KUKA Arm Coaster - @Solaris Knight

Miscellaneous:

• Music - @MickeyWaffleCo.
• Logo (both @MickeyWaffleCo. and @Disney Dad 3000 expressed interest)
• Map Throughout the Years - @Disney Dad 3000
• artwork for the exterior - @Disney Dad 3000
• Ads - @Disney Dad 3000 *

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If someone doesn't have anything yet, or is overlapping on an assignment and wants to work on Tastemosphere, they are more than welcome. I'm fine with it if not, but thought I'd throw that out.

 

[Disney Dad 3000]

Ooooo like an air based branch of Adventurers Club?

Delta or Boein would definitely be the realistic name

I initially had 2 thoughts on it. One that adventurer's club style which I guess it would actually be a precursor to, though thinking about it, that might be a little out of character for 80's Epcot I think. The other was more of a sleek design space a little in the vein of coral reef but obvious aviation influences, story.

 

[MickeyWaffleCo.]

Here’s a logo first draft. I’m using the same color as The Seas logo does for now, but I may change that later.

 

[Disney Dad 3000]

One big thing we have to figure out is how this all fits over time. We can't come in and demo the whole place down the road to make rides fit, or at least I don't think Disney would.

* Soarin' will prove to be an eyesore still, though even more so with the placement since guests will see it entering the park (though I guess Guardians balances that out later, lol)

* I think opening day sightlines work fine with the ride list we have. We'll just have to lay it out so the things that stick for all 40 years are still good where they are from day 1. Soarin and the Kuka arm attraction obviously fit present day Epcot since there's not as much regard for sightlines, but also leaving space for them will be key.

Anyone have an idea what the white, greenhouse looking structures are? I'm assuming for the land. All the stuff across the street is water pumps, etc. thought it does mean screwing up that road.

 

[ThemeParkPriest]

@ThemeParkPriest and @b-wolf95 this leaves the Walkthrough/Film History of Aviation and the giftshop up for grabs

I can take the history of Aviation attraction. So I took an airport design class in college...it was really interesting!
I will plan to start working on this in earnest on Wednesday evening.

 

[Disney Dad 3000]

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Here’s a logo first draft. I’m using the same color as The Seas logo does for now, but I may change that later.

The biggest thing I think is that there might be too much curvature or variation in shape to the original icons.

Except for WOL, they all have a consistent line width to make their patterns/design. Energy and Horizons change for depth purposes, but then those smaller lines have a fixed radiation point.

Not to say we can't change it up, just my observations.

 

[MickeyWaffleCo.]

The biggest thing I think is that there might be too much curvature or variation in shape to the original icons.

Except for WOL, they all have a consistent line width to make their patterns/design. Energy and Horizons change for depth purposes, but then those smaller lines have a fixed radiation point.

Not to say we can't change it up, just my observations.

Yeah, this is a first draft. I think I’ll try multiple versions to see what looks best and matches the other icons well.

 

[Disney Dad 3000]

Yeah, this is a first draft. I think I’ll try multiple versions to see what looks best and matches the other icons well.

No worries. I think I read somewhere at one time they went through hundreds of designs for those original logos. Only 194 to go. (totally kidding).

Don't know if it will help you at all, but these were a couple of images I was scanning through last night for some inspiration.

 

[tcool123]

One big thing we have to figure out is how this all fits over time. We can't come in and demo the whole place down the road to make rides fit, or at least I don't think Disney would.

* Soarin' will prove to be an eyesore still, though even more so with the placement since guests will see it entering the park (though I guess Guardians balances that out later, lol)

* I think opening day sightlines work fine with the ride list we have. We'll just have to lay it out so the things that stick for all 40 years are still good where they are from day 1. Soarin and the Kuka arm attraction obviously fit present day Epcot since there's not as much regard for sightlines, but also leaving space for them will be key.

Anyone have an idea what the white, greenhouse looking structures are? I'm assuming for the land. All the stuff across the street is water pumps, etc. thought it does mean screwing up that road.

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Well if Soarin is moved to the Skies then the Land and would have that space freed up for those white tents over on the left of the Land. This would give us more room to play with, and we wouldn’t need to go over the road

 

[TheSquirrel]

Well if Soarin is moved to the Skies then the Land and would have that space freed up for those white tents over on the left of the Land. This would give us more room to play with, and we wouldn’t need to go over the road

Do that also mean getting rid of kitchen kaberet and food rocks that were originally were soarin is but we do have forecast follies and you don’t need 2 wacky anime tricks shows in one park

 

[tcool123]

Do that also mean getting rid of kitchen kaberet and food rocks that were originally were soarin is but we do have forecast follies and you don’t need 2 wacky anime tricks shows in one park

We can keep Kitchen Kabaret. Magic Kingdom has two wacky shows within 200 feet of each other with Tiki Room and Country Bears. Magic also had Mickey Mouse Revue during that time. I dont think it’ll be that big of a deal when Magic had three shows next to each other.

 

[Disney Dad 3000]

Well if Soarin is moved to the Skies then the Land and would have that space freed up for those white tents over on the left of the Land. This would give us more room to play with, and we wouldn’t need to go over the road

Yep, that works.

I wonder then, does it make sense whenever Soarin' comes around, to put those show buildings over in that direction as an add on to the pavilion and keep Take Flight open so there's still a no height limit attraction around for a number of more years? The Kuka Arm ride could maybe occupy somewhat similar space and take it over when it comes in present day?

 

[tcool123]

Yep, that works.

I wonder then, does it make sense whenever Soarin' comes around, to put those show buildings over in that direction as an add on to the pavilion and keep Take Flight open so there's still a no height limit attraction around for a number of more years? The Kuka Arm ride could maybe occupy somewhat similar space and take it over when it comes in present day?

My only thing is that Take Flight and Soarin are similar in themes and I feel like Eisner would totally axe Take Flight for Soarin for more thrill in the same vein as Mission Space replacing Horizons and Test Track with World of Motion

 

[MickeyWaffleCo.]

My only thing is that Take Flight and Soarin are similar in themes and I feel like Eisner would totally axe Take Flight for Soarin for more thrill in the same vein as Mission Space replacing Horizons and Test Track with World of Motion

Sadly I have to agree with this.

 

[Solaris Knight]

I was thinking of the Rocketeer Ride taking place during a World’s fair and have him taking down rogue robots while dueling with a evil version with silver and blue coloring? My original prompt was for Hollywood Studios so I used LA as the backdrop but here we can pay tribute to the predecessors of the park.