Team Prospero Brainstorming Thread - Project Ten: The Great Literature Ride

JokersWild

Well-Known Member
Yo it's 5:30 in the morning, but I randomly woke up, so I just wanted to chime in quickly as this type of attraction is very much within my wheelhouse.

I think that we're limiting ourselves by focusing on only one book per genre. WIth the sheer amount of literature that is out there, I'd picture something more akin to the Gangster or Western scenes in GMR with a few big setpieces based on specific books/ properties interspersed. A layout that I picture offhand would be like:

Opening - Mythology/ Epic Poetry
.Spoken myth montage of sorts transitioning into something like Beowulf or The Odyssey (I think that I would prefer Beowulf, personally.)
Here we could absolutely use mythology from some less used peoples: Asian, Native American, etc. Might be cool to start out on creation myths.

Fantasy
.Fairytales. A scene almost like some of the attractions at Efteling where it's fairytale vignettes
.Lord of the Rings - fairly self explanatory. I can also picture A Song of Ice and Fire working here. Ooh, or actually, maybe Discworld. I've never read it, but what I know about it sounds like it would be really cool.

Science Fiction
.Starts with a representation of classic science faction: I'd prefer The Time Machine or War of the Worlds for this type of attraction, but I'll concede to 20k if we make Nemo Indian like he is in the novel. It would be a really great way to separate from Disney.
.Ends with more modern sci-fi. Philip K. Dick, or maybe something like Asimov. Something more grounded and gritty.

Children's Literature
.Maybe use a picture book. Or some sort of series? I don't know how to start the scene, but I know how to end it: Roald Dahl. Frankly, I'm disappointed that no one thought of him two rounds ago. I'd love for the scene to work like his stories and get darker and darker, transitioning into:

Horror
.Start with Victorian horror. Frankenstein. I like the idea of using the Antarctica scene, but I worry that it would just confuse people. The sets and immersion we could do for that scene would be really great thought (doesn't it take place in a wrecked ship in the North Pole?). Poe would work here too. Jesus Christ, a Lovecraft scene would be incredible. Transition into something more modern, though I don't know a ton of modern written horror. If we want some Asian representation, maybe Junji Ito, but that might be a bit too existential/ disturbing.

Mystery
.Christie. I'm not terribly versed in her work, but whoever mentioned her earlier is right: she's probably the most famous mystery novelist and it would be a crime to not use her.

The Adventure Novel
.Allen Quatermain, Treasure Island, Tarzan. We could cheat ever so slightly and do something like The Shadow (I've been going down a The Shadow rabbit hole again recently and I'd love to see the character show up somewhere. It started as a radio drama, but transitioned into pulp novels, so it's possible.). There is a ton that we could do here, and it's separate enough from Science Fiction I'd think.

Historical Epic
.Just Les Mis. Pretty self explanatory. Maybe something like Hunchback. Maybe War and Peace. I'd like to keep something like this to one novel.

Manga?
.I liked the idea presented, but there are a lot of wrong ways to go about it and I don't know nearly enough about manga to feel comfortable suggesting things for it.

The only thing that I have no ideas for is how to end it. Maybe some sort of montage or some sort of representation of the authors who appear in the attraction? I dunno.

Anyway, that is an incredibly rough outline, but hopefully it gives an idea of what books I'd like to see represented. Obviously, there's a lot that could change, and I'd especially like a few more modern books and some more representation from other parts of that world, but these are my initial ideas at least. Back to bed I go.
 

goofyyukyuk

Well-Known Member
Yo it's 5:30 in the morning, but I randomly woke up, so I just wanted to chime in quickly as this type of attraction is very much within my wheelhouse.

I think that we're limiting ourselves by focusing on only one book per genre. WIth the sheer amount of literature that is out there, I'd picture something more akin to the Gangster or Western scenes in GMR with a few big setpieces based on specific books/ properties interspersed. A layout that I picture offhand would be like:

Opening - Mythology/ Epic Poetry
.Spoken myth montage of sorts transitioning into something like Beowulf or The Odyssey (I think that I would prefer Beowulf, personally.)
Here we could absolutely use mythology from some less used peoples: Asian, Native American, etc. Might be cool to start out on creation myths.

Fantasy
.Fairytales. A scene almost like some of the attractions at Efteling where it's fairytale vignettes
.Lord of the Rings - fairly self explanatory. I can also picture A Song of Ice and Fire working here. Ooh, or actually, maybe Discworld. I've never read it, but what I know about it sounds like it would be really cool.

Science Fiction
.Starts with a representation of classic science faction: I'd prefer The Time Machine or War of the Worlds for this type of attraction, but I'll concede to 20k if we make Nemo Indian like he is in the novel. It would be a really great way to separate from Disney.
.Ends with more modern sci-fi. Philip K. ****, or maybe something like Asimov. Something more grounded and gritty.

Children's Literature
.Maybe use a picture book. Or some sort of series? I don't know how to start the scene, but I know how to end it: Roald Dahl. Frankly, I'm disappointed that no one thought of him two rounds ago. I'd love for the scene to work like his stories and get darker and darker, transitioning into:

Horror
.Start with Victorian horror. Frankenstein. I like the idea of using the Antarctica scene, but I worry that it would just confuse people. The sets and immersion we could do for that scene would be really great thought (doesn't it take place in a wrecked ship in the North Pole?). Poe would work here too. Jesus Christ, a Lovecraft scene would be incredible. Transition into something more modern, though I don't know a ton of modern written horror. If we want some Asian representation, maybe Junji Ito, but that might be a bit too existential/ disturbing.

Mystery
.Christie. I'm not terribly versed in her work, but whoever mentioned her earlier is right: she's probably the most famous mystery novelist and it would be a crime to not use her.

The Adventure Novel
.Allen Quatermain, Treasure Island, Tarzan. We could cheat ever so slightly and do something like The Shadow (I've been going down a The Shadow rabbit hole again recently and I'd love to see the character show up somewhere. It started as a radio drama, but transitioned into pulp novels, so it's possible.). There is a ton that we could do here, and it's separate enough from Science Fiction I'd think.

Historical Epic
.Just Les Mis. Pretty self explanatory. Maybe something like Hunchback. Maybe War and Peace. I'd like to keep something like this to one novel.

Manga?
.I liked the idea presented, but there are a lot of wrong ways to go about it and I don't know nearly enough about manga to feel comfortable suggesting things for it.

The only thing that I have no ideas for is how to end it. Maybe some sort of montage or some sort of representation of the authors who appear in the attraction? I dunno.

Anyway, that is an incredibly rough outline, but hopefully it gives an idea of what books I'd like to see represented. Obviously, there's a lot that could change, and I'd especially like a few more modern books and some more representation from other parts of that world, but these are my initial ideas at least. Back to bed I go.
That’s a pretty solid list! I like the idea of using creation stories like Gilgamesh and others to add some diversity! War of the Worlds would be interesting as well, although I think using 20KL would be more well known maybe? You’ve got a lot of stuff packed in here, but I like this approach a lot. I’d agree that Manga would be tough to do as it may feel really out of place
 

AceAstro

Well-Known Member
Historical Epic
.Just Les Mis. Pretty self explanatory. Maybe something like Hunchback. Maybe War and Peace. I'd like to keep something like this to one novel.
I love love love Les Mis. Could do so much with that. My only suggestion for Historical Epic instead is The Romance of the Three Kingdoms. It’s extremely popular in China. It is said that “among the Chinese themselves, this is regarded as the greatest of all their novels.”
 

DashHaber

Well-Known Member
Go for it!
Alright. If everyone is okay with that, I'll take the lead.

Now, we really should finalize just what genres to go with. As I see it, the major genres we have been throwing around include:
  • Adventure
  • Mystery
  • Horror
  • Fantasy
  • Science Fiction
  • Romance
  • Historical Epic
  • Children's Literature
  • Mythology/Epic Poetry
Now, this already means a lot of options, considering we also want to highlight multiple stories per genre. We could easily wind up with a massive ride if we aren't careful, so what I propose is this: of the genres listed, which ones could you see skipping? Everyone can select two genres from the list they would want to remove. That way, once everyone has selected which genres to cut away, I feel we can better par down the options for our attraction.
 

goofyyukyuk

Well-Known Member
Alright. If everyone is okay with that, I'll take the lead.

Now, we really should finalize just what genres to go with. As I see it, the major genres we have been throwing around include:
  • Adventure
  • Mystery
  • Horror
  • Fantasy
  • Science Fiction
  • Romance
  • Historical Epic
  • Children's Literature
  • Mythology/Epic Poetry
Now, this already means a lot of options, considering we also want to highlight multiple stories per genre. We could easily wind up with a massive ride if we aren't careful, so what I propose is this: of the genres listed, which ones could you see skipping? Everyone can select two genres from the list they would want to remove. That way, once everyone has selected which genres to cut away, I feel we can better par down the options for our attraction.
Adventure and Historical Epic for me probably
 

AceAstro

Well-Known Member
Alright. If everyone is okay with that, I'll take the lead.

Now, we really should finalize just what genres to go with. As I see it, the major genres we have been throwing around include:
  • Adventure
  • Mystery
  • Horror
  • Fantasy
  • Science Fiction
  • Romance
  • Historical Epic
  • Children's Literature
  • Mythology/Epic Poetry
Now, this already means a lot of options, considering we also want to highlight multiple stories per genre. We could easily wind up with a massive ride if we aren't careful, so what I propose is this: of the genres listed, which ones could you see skipping? Everyone can select two genres from the list they would want to remove. That way, once everyone has selected which genres to cut away, I feel we can better par down the options for our attraction.
I’d cut Adventure and Fantasy
 

AceAstro

Well-Known Member
If we were to cut Historical Epic over Fantasy, would would be the choice for Fantasy? In the options goofy mentioned and others I can think of, they encroach heavily on whatever we’d do for Children’s. By doing History, it brings in a whole different genre not touched by others (whether that’s Les Mis, War and Peace, Romance of the Three Kingdoms, etc.)
 

DashHaber

Well-Known Member
If we were to cut Historical Epic over Fantasy, would would be the choice for Fantasy? In the options goofy mentioned and others I can think of, they encroach heavily on whatever we’d do for Children’s. By doing History, it brings in a whole different genre not touched by others (whether that’s Les Mis, War and Peace, Romance of the Three Kingdoms, etc.
You do raise a good point.

Personally, my choices to cut would be Adventure and Children's Literature. I feel like Children's Literature is almost too broad a category, seeing as you can fit in plenty of other existing genres within that umbrella.
 

Outbound

Well-Known Member
If we were to cut Historical Epic over Fantasy, would would be the choice for Fantasy? In the options goofy mentioned and others I can think of, they encroach heavily on whatever we’d do for Children’s. By doing History, it brings in a whole different genre not touched by others (whether that’s Les Mis, War and Peace, Romance of the Three Kingdoms, etc.

Of Fantasy I've read, I'd choose the Hobbit and ASOIF, now this may seem too pop-culture but here me out.
  • The Hobbit basically birthed the fantasy genre. Without Tolkien, most people would still see fantasy as children's fairy tales, and nothing more. Even if the Hobbit wasn't as mature as the later LOTR, it was still the first fantasy novel fairytale inspiration. (Scene: Bilbo speaks to Smaug)
  • ASOIF has a terrible reputation nowadays but if we flashback to the 1990s, before GOT, it was a gamechanger on par with the Hobbit. Hundreds of characters, refusal to follow standard fantasy tropes, and a ridiculously sprawling narrative. (Scene: Battle of the Blackwater)
Alternatively, I've heard good things of the series "Wheel of Time" which has 14 novels and is fairly recent, but I haven't read it so I don't have much to say.
 

NigelChanning

Well-Known Member
Of Fantasy I've read, I'd choose the Hobbit and ASOIF, now this may seem too pop-culture but here me out.
  • The Hobbit basically birthed the fantasy genre. Without Tolkien, most people would still see fantasy as children's fairy tales, and nothing more. Even if the Hobbit wasn't as mature as the later LOTR, it was still the first fantasy novel fairytale inspiration. (Scene: Bilbo speaks to Smaug)
  • ASOIF has a terrible reputation nowadays but if we flashback to the 1990s, before GOT, it was a gamechanger on par with the Hobbit. Hundreds of characters, refusal to follow standard fantasy tropes, and a ridiculously sprawling narrative. (Scene: Battle of the Blackwater)
Alternatively, I've heard good things of the series "Wheel of Time" which has 14 novels and is fairly recent, but I haven't read it so I don't have much to say.
I would probably replace ASOIF with something from the Narnia franchise. It’s still pretty popular and completely encompasses the fantasy aspect.
 

Outbound

Well-Known Member
I would probably replace ASOIF with something from the Narnia franchise. It’s still pretty popular and completely encompasses the fantasy aspect.

Agreed, the only concern I have is CS Lewis and Tolkien were good friends before publishing, who considered their works part of a single literary movement (the inklings). That may be too narrow-minded considering we are given all of fantasy to draw from.
 

Sharon&Susan

Well-Known Member
I'd get rid of Children's Literature (for same reasons as stated above) and Romance (I'm not convinced that it would as well as the other genres in ride form: maybe someone can throw something out and convince me to change my mind)
 

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