Disney Dad 3000
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And obviously not too many trees in RR land. Just cacti.
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And obviously not too many trees in RR land. Just cacti.
Pi on my Cake
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What were we demoloshing to make room for our two rides again?
Pi on my Cake
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Do the shark and walrus exhibits have to stay? Because that would give us a lot of room for an e ticket family coatser. While still keeping the beach and sea lion theater. We could even move one of the demolished theater to next to the sea lion theater. There's enough room for one
Disney Dad 3000
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Having a hard time telling for sure on my phone, but would that give us the area next to monsoon falls? Then seaport would be ok and transition not as bad. Maybe put that fun LT entrance you were talking about on that path that leads between seaport and where the ride would go. Probably plenty of room for that Yosemite Sam restaurant too?
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I imagine for RR, we are making this highly themed and thrilling, but on a family scale. We could take a page from Everest and on a flat portion of the ride have it enter a tunnel and stop when a train approaching sound/light occurs then you go backwards at moderate speed before straightening out for the end.
If we are sticking with RR, I can crank out a sign for it tomorrow maybe try my hand at some formal concept art. Will wait and see what you guys discuss.
If we are sticking with RR, I can crank out a sign for it tomorrow maybe try my hand at some formal concept art. Will wait and see what you guys discuss.
Echoing Tiki's park breakdown this morning, evidently the beach and sea lion theater are the most expendable, while the sharks and walruses are better kept.
The challenge in that location it seems is doing RR desert by the water. How about Lake Powell style?
Pi on my Cake
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I like that concept! Maybe have the dead end that causes it to go backwards crashing into a painted wall
Yes! I did this real quick
Basically, blue is sea port. With light bluw being looney tunes and darker blue staying more real. Maybe retheme the monsoon falls to looney tunes.
Orange would be dessert canyon or whatever. Retheme the existing restaurant to a saloon with Yosemite Sam
Pi on my Cake
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Ok, I guess I remembered it wrong. Basically just switch the dark blue and orange portions on my map sketch then. Monsoon falls is a new canyon themed water ride. Like Looney Tune Western River Expedition (but obviously a lot less expensive and more simple. Sea Lion theater is more where the coaster would be. New restaurants/ ghost town transitioning to the DC areaEchoing Tiki's park breakdown this morning, evidently the beach and sea lion theater are the most expendable, while the sharks and walruses are better kept.
The challenge in that location it seems is doing RR desert by the water. How about Lake Powell style?
Honestly, let's have @TheOriginalTiki clear this confusion up. There's too many sea mammal stadia to keep straight.
Pi on my Cake
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lol, there's a fair number. Definitely feels like they could be combined or something even if not fully cut. Sea World has a Sea lions and Walruses together. At least in florida. If i'm remembering correctly.
TheOriginalTiki
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Clearing things up, for starters I honestly never thought of the Roadrunner being a desert themed attraction in a seaport since the area already has a Roadrunner Express themed kiddie coaster. I guess I'm more open with expanding on the Seaport theme now. There's certainly some things to be done with the Seaport, specifically there's an empty footprint from an old water playground and there's an indoor playground that takes up a fairly substantial footprint that still gets used but never draws in more than a few kids at a time. There's also a random out of place carousel back there that doesn't fit at all with the Looney Tunes theme, haha.
As for Sharks and Walrus...Walrus can go, Sharks should stay. The Walrus exhibit is probably going to be defunct by the end of the season anyways as two of the three walruses they had there have died and it's not mentally healthy to leave one alone for an extended period of time. So unless the park inherits a new walrus in the next few months it'll have to go anyways.
Shark Experience however, is an ICON. Simply put, as a fanboy of the park, you CANNOT remove it
In all seriousness, it's been there since park opening and still remains by far the most popular of all the park's animal exhibits. Getting rid of it would not go over well even if it meant freeing up space for a showbuilding. The sea lion stadium is too disconnected from the ski stadium to really blend the two unless we took out the surrounding Ocean Discovery penguin and stingray exhibits and made the walk from Monsoon Falls to the park's DC area into a Radiator Springs Racers/Cars Land style national park with the roadrunner coaster running through it. The queue for Roadrunner can still be in the Walrus Experience, and the ride can start in the old ski stadium which literally hits right up against the back of Walrus, but maybe after the first third of the ride we go over the path to the DC area and into a larger canyon set piece excavated from the old Sea Lion stadium. I can tell you the sea lion show still draws a crowd though, but it's far from being as iconic as Shark Experience.
As for Sharks and Walrus...Walrus can go, Sharks should stay. The Walrus exhibit is probably going to be defunct by the end of the season anyways as two of the three walruses they had there have died and it's not mentally healthy to leave one alone for an extended period of time. So unless the park inherits a new walrus in the next few months it'll have to go anyways.
Shark Experience however, is an ICON. Simply put, as a fanboy of the park, you CANNOT remove it
In all seriousness, it's been there since park opening and still remains by far the most popular of all the park's animal exhibits. Getting rid of it would not go over well even if it meant freeing up space for a showbuilding. The sea lion stadium is too disconnected from the ski stadium to really blend the two unless we took out the surrounding Ocean Discovery penguin and stingray exhibits and made the walk from Monsoon Falls to the park's DC area into a Radiator Springs Racers/Cars Land style national park with the roadrunner coaster running through it. The queue for Roadrunner can still be in the Walrus Experience, and the ride can start in the old ski stadium which literally hits right up against the back of Walrus, but maybe after the first third of the ride we go over the path to the DC area and into a larger canyon set piece excavated from the old Sea Lion stadium. I can tell you the sea lion show still draws a crowd though, but it's far from being as iconic as Shark Experience.
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Clearing things up, for starters I honestly never thought of the Roadrunner being a desert themed attraction in a seaport since the area already has a Roadrunner Express themed kiddie coaster. I guess I'm more open with expanding on the Seaport theme now. There's certainly some things to be done with the Seaport, specifically there's an empty footprint from an old water playground and there's an indoor playground that takes up a fairly substantial footprint that still gets used but never draws in more than a few kids at a time. There's also a random out of place carousel back there that doesn't fit at all with the Looney Tunes theme, haha.
As for Sharks and Walrus...Walrus can go, Sharks should stay. The Walrus exhibit is probably going to be defunct by the end of the season anyways as two of the three walruses they had there have died and it's not mentally healthy to leave one alone for an extended period of time. So unless the park inherits a new walrus in the next few months it'll have to go anyways.
Shark Experience however, is an ICON. Simply put, as a fanboy of the park, you CANNOT remove it
How about this, we keep it relatively simple. We use the Walrus space and infrastructure to turn that into a new Sea Lion Stage. Then the Sea Lion Stage becomes the canyon coaster. The same rock work from that can extend to the Monsoon Falls right next to it allowing for realtively cheap retheming of that but still looking lovely and immersive. Rock work archways transition between Sea port and Canyon areas to make it smooth. That way we don't lose anything other than the Walrus show which is closing anyways. Maybe add a small Reptile room about the kinda animals you would actually find in an Arizona canyon to tie with the theme of the park.
And, without its big draw of the sea lions, the area I circled as yellow on the map can be used for a future phase 2 extension of the DC area (possibly mention that it will later on down the line clone an attraction or two one of the other groups are working on). But for now it is staying more or less as is.
Also, I vote we combine the SeaPort and Seaside Junction into one aquatic/Looney Tunes themed land. Maybe help breathe some new life into the flat rides by the Shark Experience with the IP.
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Also, what theme were we thinking for the RMC TRex coaster? We were replacing Kong with that, right Tiki?
So, I'd assume we retheme Medusa, Cobra, Skyscreamer, and Daredevil Chaos Coaster to all be consistent with it. As much as giant things like Medusa and Skyscreamer could be themed with their size and being right at the edge of the park of course.
Currently in the park we would have water, jungle, dessert, and city/superheroes covered as themes. So, maybe we do something Sky themed. Like different birds for the rides. Give the area a Steampunk fantasy airship feel. Add a small aviary to tie it back to animals. There is plenty of room for something like that by the 4D theater that would put the birds a bit away from the thrill rides but close enough to still be a part of the land. A lot of kinetic energy from propellers spinning to "keeping the land afloat" on top of buildings and gears turning. Medusa, Cobra, and Sky Screamer get rethemed to birds of prey or other flying things that would only need a new coat of paint and some new signs. Daredevil is given the theme of a large spinning gear and a new name like "Clock Work."
I don't know. What do you guys think of that? I'm trying to think of what the park hasn't done yet that can still tie to the animal theme.
So, I'd assume we retheme Medusa, Cobra, Skyscreamer, and Daredevil Chaos Coaster to all be consistent with it. As much as giant things like Medusa and Skyscreamer could be themed with their size and being right at the edge of the park of course.
Currently in the park we would have water, jungle, dessert, and city/superheroes covered as themes. So, maybe we do something Sky themed. Like different birds for the rides. Give the area a Steampunk fantasy airship feel. Add a small aviary to tie it back to animals. There is plenty of room for something like that by the 4D theater that would put the birds a bit away from the thrill rides but close enough to still be a part of the land. A lot of kinetic energy from propellers spinning to "keeping the land afloat" on top of buildings and gears turning. Medusa, Cobra, and Sky Screamer get rethemed to birds of prey or other flying things that would only need a new coat of paint and some new signs. Daredevil is given the theme of a large spinning gear and a new name like "Clock Work."
I don't know. What do you guys think of that? I'm trying to think of what the park hasn't done yet that can still tie to the animal theme.
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Here is that area of the park btw. Plus some more info on the RMC T-Rex coaster type Tiki was talking about. It is a single track coaster. Tiki might know more about what makes it special than I do.
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Last thing, I made up the Real meets Looney ads. I could add in "The Ride/Land opening May 2022" or whatever to the bottom of them also if we want once we know that stuff.
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Disney Dad 3000
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I like all of this. I know Tiki has a better idea visually how that would all fit on a ground level. Nice thing about combining all that , while themes could be different between seaport and canyon/west, it's all looney tunes/animal crossover so it makes some kind of sense plus the areas are a little separated.
He mentioned there was already a kiddie RR coaster. I know it's seaport, but could you just retheme it to speedy gonzalez or with your markting photo the tasmanian devil? RR isnt exactly sea either.
Maybe monsoon falls is called foghorn falls, with the rock work you mentioned and Queue it up with bugs/daffy/PP going rafting or something
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Speedy gonzalez sounds like a great set up to me! I was gonna suggest Duck Dodgers. But Speedy would probably be easier to fit to the Seaport theme.
And Foghorn Falls sounds perfect! Maybe have an animatronic Foghorn at the top of the hill trying to warn guests about the drop. But being very ineffective getting distracted by little asides and "I says"
"No, ya'll folks better watch - I say - watch out for what's up ahead. Why it's worse than my aunt Jenny's corn puddin'. Ya listening, son? That right there was a joke. But what is up ahead is not - I say -not something to joke about. Why, ya'll better turn around fast before ya..." Then we go over the falls.
TheOriginalTiki
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Generally speaking, I'm down for this plan. The one thing I would change is maybe instead of having a new Sea Lion stadium in the Walrus area we move the Ocean Discovery exhibits (Penguin Passage and Stingray Bay) there instead as they'd be right in the line of fire for where we want to put the Roadrunner coaster. I love the idea of having a Southwest side of the Looney Tunes area with Foghorn Falls and Roadrunner as well as keeping and expanding on the Seaport theme. Really ties the IP together. We can definitely place a small animal exhibit between Foghorn Falls and Roadrunner, only thing is I'd avoid having it be a reptile house as the park already has one of those located in the back of Tava's Jungleland.
For the dinosaur area, I actually don't really think we need to spend much focus on retheming the Medusa area. It's already has a vague Egyptian theme to it. Skyscreamer already sticks out like a sore thumb and if it were up to me I'd just remove it and put in maybe a snake exhibit in its place to connect with Medusa and Cobra. Skyscreamer only being 150 feet tall REALLY takes the bite out of the "thrill" portion of the ride. I basically describe the thing as a glorified open air observation tower. Daredevil we can easily retheme to fit more with the Egyptian setting, or simply take it out entirely as its only a couple years old and ALREADY among the park's least popular rides. I never even saw it have a wait longer than a couple cycles even in its opening months, haha. Only thing I would seriously invest in is maybe some landscaping and rock work around Medusa, which as it stands now is the park's biggest example of a "parking lot coaster". We don't have to build a giant mountain around the thing, but some rock work after the mid course brake run would do wonders.
For the T-Rex, what makes it unique is that it can do everything an RMC can do, but with even more versatility and speed. Test run footage of Wonder Woman at Fiesta Texas looks INSANE thanks to the relentless speed, and that's definitely something we can build on. Having a single rail coaster is just visually really cool and unique, and the T-Rex style allows us to double the capacity of Wonder Woman/Railblazer. Theming doesn't have to be extreme but there should definitely be a T-Rex AA front and center in the middle of the track, almost as if the T-Rex is eating the coaster and the layout of the coaster is basically the result of an "average" coaster being ravaged by a dinosaur. Beyond that as I already said we can easily turn the rest of that area into a dinosaur mini-land with an updated Dinosphere in the 3D theater and adding dinosaur figures along the White Water Safari layout. I'd even take out Tasmanian Devil next to the 3D theater as it's basically a much smaller version of the park's new Wonder Woman flat ride. In its place we can either design a unique flat ride or even an educational exhibit about dinosaurs. (Maybe something that connects the idea that dinosaurs evolved from birds...)
TheOriginalTiki
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Dude, I freaking LOVE these and as a life-long visitor of the park you really nailed how they like to advertise. Do you think you can make an alternate version of this with the Six Flags logo so I can share it to the park's Facebook page?