Disney Irish
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I wasn’t talking about Far from Home, I was talking about Doctor Strange 2. It’s got Multiverse right in the title.
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FettFan
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Feige actually said on stage “Just because Quentin Beck lied about the Multiverse, doesn’t mean it isn’t real”
The MCU has clearly established different "realities" or planes of existence such as the quantum realm, Dormamu's realm, all the realities Doctor Strange went through, Astral Plane, Ao'SHIELD's realities created by the monoliths. The question is whether there are *parallel* dimensions.
The time traveling aspects in Ao'SHIELD and Endgame suggest that you can get parallel timestreams by monkeying with time travel. The question is whether that is creating parallel dimensions that exist side by side or the doubles they create are just one-off paradoxes.
But, Doctor's Strange 2's title gives it away with "Multiverse" which usually implies parallel dimensions and not just differing ones.
The time traveling aspects in Ao'SHIELD and Endgame suggest that you can get parallel timestreams by monkeying with time travel. The question is whether that is creating parallel dimensions that exist side by side or the doubles they create are just one-off paradoxes.
But, Doctor's Strange 2's title gives it away with "Multiverse" which usually implies parallel dimensions and not just differing ones.
Disney Irish
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We're talking about Phase 4 movies in all these threads, might want to see what was announced for Phase 4. We have two threads for the announcement and discussions here -
For over all discussion of Phase 4 and beyond:
MCU Phase 4 and beyond
With Phase 3 coming to an end with End Game and Far from Home, and Phase 4 starting after that. What else do we think will be coming in Phase 4? Do we think that Fox Marvel properties will make their MCU debut in Phase 4 or will that wait until Phase 5? This and many more MCU discussions...
For the specifics of the MCU info coming out of Comic-Con:
Marvel News out of ComicCon
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/marvel-unveils-post-avengers-endgame-plans-at-comic-con-1225869?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral
The title is Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness.
Anyways, I'm sure Mordo will have a role in it. But the rumored villain is Nightmare and will be a horror based film.
Rachael McAdams reprises her role as Christine, and Elizabeth Olsen's Wanda will come team up with the good Doctor. So events from WandaVision will have an impact on Multiverse of Madness.
There hasn't been much added to it yet, but we have a thread on it here for discussion:
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/doctor-strange-2-scott-derrickson-returning-direct-1168156 Scott Derrickson (the original director) is returning, looking like a 2021 release date. For everyone trying to remember when the first one came out, it was November 2016, so there will be...
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Disney Irish
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I have a feeling this is the movie where we'll get open talk about all the events being on Earth-616, not just drawn on a chalkboard....
Disney Irish
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Well we kind of already had that in Endgame, and that was cleared up by the end. So I doubt they'd go that route again.
Mike S
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Actually he was never unworthy in Endgame. The fact Mjolnir still came to him proved it.
Disney Irish
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That is why I said "kind of", it was a self confidence thing.
No actually I think they'll use the cancer story line from Original Sin. It makes sense given she had Aether inside her, which can't be good for a human.
Mike S
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Cancer makes her worthy? That’s kind of ridiculous.
Disney Irish
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Its not the cancer that makes her worthy, its the fact she stepped in to protect Asgard while dealing with cancer that makes her worthy.
Here is a good run down:
Thor: Love and Thunder - Jane Foster as Thor Explained
Natalie Portman returns to the MCU in 2021 as Jane Foster, better known as The Mighty Thor!
www.denofgeek.com
Mike S
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Again I don’t want it to be that Thor is suddenly unworthy. I go to Thor movies to see Thor.Its not the cancer that makes her worthy, its the fact she stepped in to protect Asgard while dealing with cancer that makes her worthy.
Here is a good run down:
Thor: Love and Thunder - Jane Foster as Thor Explained
Natalie Portman returns to the MCU in 2021 as Jane Foster, better known as The Mighty Thor!
DisneyGigi
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100 percent agree! What they did with Thor in Ragnarok- great! Don’t throw that away- I would not go see a movie with a watered down Thor role. His comic side was awesome. And Thor, is well, Thor. I, for one, have never cared for Natalie Portman. She is so, flat, in acting range. JMO. No matter what she is in, even Star Wars. Tessa Thompson, rocks it. Her and Thor had chemistry. Again JMO.
Disney Irish
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Well why can't it be that Capt bestows Mjolnir (since Capt had Mjolnir at the end of Endgame) to Jane? So many possibilities.
Also in order to introduce a Goddess of Thunder, the God of Thunder has to step down. Just like he handed over the Asgardian kingdom to Valkyrie, he can hand over the Thor mantle to Jane and become just Odinson.
Mike S
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Cap put Mjolnir back with the Reality Stone.
Thor doesn’t need to step down for someone else to gain powers. Beta Ray Bill was worthy and had his own powers without Thor having to lose them.
Also remember that the MCU movies don't necessarily have to change the status quo like the comics do. The MCU kills off recurring villains, for example, instead of having them show up again and again (except for Loki). If Jane Foster is the new Thor in #4, that doesn't mean she'll be that way in future movies. Cap was Thor for a hot minute. Or, she could be the Thor for the next Avengers movie... we don't know.
Mike S
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Even when Cap was “Thor,” Thor was still “Thor.” He only gained powers because he was worthy of wielding Mjolnir. My hope for this movie is the same situation. I don’t want to see Thor sidelined and suddenly become unworthy again. By all means give Jane Foster the powers of Thor if they’ve got a good story cooked up. Since Taika’s back I can already imagine some hilarious scenes where they maybe compete on who’s the better Thor.
Disney Irish
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How do you know he put Mjolnir back? It wasn't explicitly stated in the movie.
As far as I'm aware there isn't precedent for having two Gods of Thunder with the Thor name at one time. Sure there have been times when other characters have been deemed worthy enough to be able to wield Mjolnir, again such as Cap. But there hasn't been another God of Thunder with the name Thor at the same time as Thor. Again as far as I'm aware. So unless Feige is going to go completely off script and make comic history, Thor has to step down (or be stripped) as God of Thunder and the Thor name.
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