TAFI Town Hall

[Zweiland]

I would rather keep it in December; it worked well last year and it makes sense from a dramatic standpoint.

It also doesn't conflict with any current plans, and it will be easier for potential hosts to remember that they can't start an ICS comp during the end of the year if they want to get the points.

 

[englanddg]

I vote for December but have it be quick.

If it doesn't determine anything, then we don't need many challenges. Just a few fun ones to round out the year. There doesn't need to be eliminations. Just a winner at the end then before Christmas and then the awards.

Then reset for next calendar year.

Well, that was the point behind Elite Eight in the first place. A quick year end 5 week comp for the 8 people with the highest total point accumulation.

The awards were completely separate, they just happened at the same time.

 

[Sam Magic]

So are we in agreement for keeping it in December? That seems to be the logical place

I think so...

 

[Zweiland]

Eliminations do not take much time. Elite Eight is base on judges critiques...no boardroom or the contest stalling for a day to decide who goes.

Exactly. Eliminations would only take as long as the judging.

 

[englanddg]

Eliminations do not take much time. Elite Eight is base on judges critiques...no boardroom or the contest stalling for a day to decide who goes.

Last year judgements, eliminations and new challenges all went up the same day. Good show from Zwei in that respect.

 

[Sam Magic]

Last year judgements, eliminations and new challenges all went up the same day. Good show from Zwei in that respect.

Amen to that! Zwei...in all frankness was a fantastic host.

 

[Zweiland]

Last year judgements, eliminations and new challenges all went up the same day. Good show from Zwei in that respect.

And don't forget the guest judges.

 

[englanddg]

And don't forget the guest judges.

Yessir.

 

[englanddg]

I agree. That's why I mentioned the league idea last night privately. It would be a logistical nightmare, but it would allow more people to play at a time, and it would be more fun for everyone.

We've been down the road of leagues (so I wish you'd brought it up publically as well, because others could have input then).

We wanted to do two leagues, actually modeled on Football or Baseball. That's where the ICS/ACS/TAFI stuff came from.

ICS and ACS were the leagues, TAFI was the overarching organization. From that, you'd need league directors, and that is what eventually morphed into the Convos.

See where I'm going with this?

 

[Sam Magic]

We've been down the road of leagues (so I wish you'd brought it up publically as well, because others could have input then).

We wanted to do two leagues, actually modeled on Football or Baseball. That's where the ICS/ACS/TAFI stuff came from.

ICS and ACS were the leagues, TAFI was the overarching organization. From that, you'd need league directors, and that is what eventually morphed into the Convos.

See where I'm going with this?

Some roads are traveled once, and best not traveled again.

 

[JokersWild]

We've been down the road of leagues (so I wish you'd brought it up publically as well, because others could have input then).

We wanted to do two leagues, actually modeled on Football or Baseball. That's where the ICS/ACS/TAFI stuff came from.

ICS and ACS were the leagues, TAFI was the overarching organization. From that, you'd need league directors, and that is what eventually morphed into the Convos.

See where I'm going with this?

The league I'm talking about was more of a year-long comp. Essentially, people would set up teams and meet once a month to do a week-long challenge. It would end in a final month-long championship. It's essentially bowling, and would only need one or two hosts to oversee it all.

But, of course, it would be a logistical nightmare and would need a ton of commitment, which is why it was thrown out soon after.

 

[Sam Magic]

The league I'm talking about was more of a year-long comp. Essentially, people would set up teams and meet once a month to do a week-long challenge. It would end in a final month-long championship. It's essentially bowling, and would only need one or two hosts to oversee it all.

But, of course, it would be a logistical nightmare and would need a ton of commitment, which is why it was thrown out soon after.

That would be so cool to do at least once though. Logistical nightmares and all.

 

[englanddg]

The league I'm talking about was more of a year-long comp. Essentially, people would set up teams and meet once a month to do a week-long challenge. It would end in a final month-long championship. It's essentially bowling, and would only need one or two hosts to oversee it all.

But, of course, it would be a logistical nightmare and would need a ton of commitment, which is why it was thrown out soon after.

Ah, that makes sense. And yes, it would be a logistical nightmare. Hence why we ended up dropping the ACS and league play concept last year and deciding to stick with ICS (as a nod to JDM) and TAFI Convos.

 

[Matt7187]

The league I'm talking about was more of a year-long comp. Essentially, people would set up teams and meet once a month to do a week-long challenge. It would end in a final month-long championship. It's essentially bowling, and would only need one or two hosts to oversee it all.

But, of course, it would be a logistical nightmare and would need a ton of commitment, which is why it was thrown out soon after.

I think it would be cool, but as everyone else said, people would just drop and it would be very complicated

 

[englanddg]

That would be so cool to do at least once though. Logistical nightmares and all.

Well, with no schedules and no limits on the comps, one could just decide to start that up.

If we keep a points thing, and make it a function of length of challenges and number of people involved, that would keep it in the larger "group" of comps.

 

[Zweiland]

Can we tentatively plan to do the Sweet Sixteen comp next year in December? This year we can still stick with the Elite Eight, if no one objects. Better to finish what we started than scrap it all halfway through.

The other thing that needs to be decided is the point system. I heard this a few pages back, which sounds eerily similar to the system we've been using, but simpler than the one we planned to use for next year:

• Competitors: 1 point for each person you beat
• Hosts: 1/2 point for each contestant in the competition
• Co-Judges/Co-Hosts: 1/4 point for each contestant in the competition
• Winner gets 2 extra points.

I think we could also add something based on the timeframe of the competition. For instance, competitors would receive 2 points for each month of the competition. This would not be based on how you rank in the comp-- it's solely a commitment bonus. For instance, someone eliminated in the first week of a 3 month comp would still receive 6 points.

 

[Matt7187]

Can we tentatively plan to do the Sweet Sixteen comp next year in December? This year we can still stick with the Elite Eight, if no one objects. Better to finish what we started than scrap it all halfway through.

The other thing that needs to be decided is the point system. I heard this a few pages back, which sounds eerily similar to the system we've been using, but simpler than the one we planned to use for next year:

• Competitors: 1 point for each person you beat
• Hosts: 1/2 point for each contestant in the competition
• Co-Judges/Co-Hosts: 1/4 point for each contestant in the competition
• Winner gets 2 extra points.

I think we could also add something based on the timeframe of the competition. For instance, competitors would receive 2 points for each month of the competition. This would not be based on how you rank in the comp-- it's solely a commitment bonus. For instance, someone eliminated in the first week of a 3 month comp would still receive 6 points.

Instead of each person you beat, make it each round you advance. And I'm not s huge fan of the time bonus, maybe get 2 bonus for each month you are in, but not if you are already eliminated, because the comps isn't using up your time then.

 

[Zweiland]

There can also be a category of "friendly" Imagineering challenges that aren't actually competitions, so they don't count for points. But they would still be sponsored by the ICS, i.e., mentioned in the newsletter.

An example? Shark Tank.

 

[Zweiland]

Instead of each person you beat, make it each round you advance. And I'm not s huge fan of the time bonus, maybe get 2 bonus for each month you are in, but not if you are already eliminated, because the comps isn't using up your time then.

Each round you advance doesn't make sense, because some comps don't have eliminations.

The reasoning behind the time bonus was that it would be given to anyone who commits to their share of the competition, no matter how long it is. That would make it less likely that the people who play in the Sweet Sixteen would quit on us, because they are the "committed" ones.

 

[Matt7187]

Each round you advance doesn't make sense, because some comps don't have eliminations.

The reasoning behind the time bonus was that it would be given to anyone who commits to their share of the competition, no matter how long it is. That would make it less likely that the people who play in the Sweet Sixteen would quit on us, because they are the "committed" ones.

If by round doesn't make sense, then how does by eliminations work? Contests like 30 days have no eliminations, it is based on points.