News Swan and Dolphin Tower Expansion - The Walt Disney World Swan Reserve

Robbiem

Robbiem

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kpilcher said:
No. Pre-Eisner, Disney sold the rights to new hotel building to the Tishman Corp. Tishman was the primary contractor on Epcot (which was woefully over budget around this same time). Eisner saw the potential for the hotel biz and quickly greenlit the Grand Floridian and started working on an ambitious expansion. Tishman understandably sued. Swan and Dolphin were the consolation prize in the settlement. Tishman could own and build them on prime Disney real estate but Eisner got to pick the design so it wasn’t some boring, basic, bland tower (like, say, the Cove)
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this is interesting. The swan and dolphin are so different from anything else I wonder if Disney would have built and operated them themselves or if the design was because of the Tishman deal - just different enough to not be bland but not in direct competition with the themed Disney resorts? Hotel New York in Paris was a similar hotel by the same architect but a bit more of a defined theme
 
WDWtraveler

WDWtraveler

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Photo update as of Thursday, August 27, 2020. Here are a couple of views of the Swan and Dolphin Tower Expansion at The Cove and how it appears on the existing Disney landscape and horizon.

Here is the view from the Beach Club Resort beach (beach fence in the foreground).

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Here is the view from the bridge over the canal to the Swan and Dolphin boat dock area.

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Finally, here is a close-up of the roof top observation area. The main roof top observation areas is at a 45 degree angle to offer good views of both Epcot and Magic Kingdom fireworks shows.

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Epcot82Guy

Epcot82Guy

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There was just so much potential here. That roof could have had an interesting shell or wave-like motif. Clad the sides in the oranges from the main building. Something to make it have some whimsy and relation to the other buildings. They stick out - but they have the unique charm. This is the worst of both worlds. Kinda like a large blue box I know not too far away....
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Epcot82Guy said:
There was just so much potential here. That roof could have had an interesting shell or wave-like motif. Clad the sides in the oranges from the main building. Something to make it have some whimsy and relation to the other buildings. They stick out - but they have the unique charm. This is the worst of both worlds. Kinda like a large blue box I know not too far away....
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You don’t like the slightly angled roof up top? Or the slightly larger, angled rooms that don’t seem to read from a distance?

How often do we think they’ll bother to clean the top of those rooms that bump out a little?
 
Epcot82Guy

Epcot82Guy

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lazyboy97o said:
You don’t like the slightly angled roof up top? Or the slightly larger, angled rooms that don’t seem to read from a distance?

How often do we think they’ll bother to clean the top of those rooms that bump out a little?
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True architectural innovation. The future is indeed here today!
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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BoarderPhreak said:
Here's a little bombshell. 💣

"The new hotel coming to the Swan and Dolphin complex, previously announced as The Cove, has been officially renamed The Walt Disney World Swan Reserve, per Jeffrey Davidson, Director of Creative Marketing at the Walt Disney World Swan and Dolphin Resort."

Eww. 🤷‍♂️
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I think I’ve finally figured it out. This whole thing is some sort of weird bet where an executive has to make as many bad decisions as possible and stay employed.
 
WEDway Inc & Company LLC

WEDway Inc & Company LLC

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BoarderPhreak said:
Here's a little bombshell. 💣

"The new hotel coming to the Swan and Dolphin complex, previously announced as The Cove, has been officially renamed The Walt Disney World Swan Reserve, per Jeffrey Davidson, Director of Creative Marketing at the Walt Disney World Swan and Dolphin Resort."

Eww. 🤷‍♂️
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Now it’s ruining the balance between the Swan and Dolphin 😂
 
Tha Realest

Tha Realest

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Yikes. Given the tectonic changes happening in the corporate world and the convenience of Zoom meetings, I’d really hate to be putting the finishing touches on a new complex with a bunch of convention space.
 
CJR

CJR

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Goodness, I have trouble believing that people will stay here and act boastful about it.

They'll probably just say they're staying at "the Swan and Dolphin" to create the illusion that they are staying at some place decent.

Can't believe people get paid to come up with these ideas and approve them.
 

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