For me, it wouldn't be much of an issue if they just stop it at the merge. Send all the losers from the challenge home. Start the jury fresh. We've all discussed the issues with the jury and EoE back in 38, so I won't bring those up again.
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Survivor S40: Winners at War
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manmythlegend
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Sarah may be furious with Tony but she's smart enough to realize that just sucking it up for the next few tribals is probably the way to go. If she tries to go against Tony, she probably won't be long for this game.
Let's not forget Tony has an immunity idol so he isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
I think Sarah knows she can't go to the end with Tony. I think every player will realize that. He'll have to Cagayan his way to the end, which is hard to do with newbies, let alone all winners. It's Tony Vlachos, so he could do it, but I think it will be quite hard at this point. But in the same breath, he's probably my winner pick at this point based on the edit. Jeremy would be my #2 winner pick based on the edit.
manmythlegend
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I gotta say, I liked Tony in his first season. But I'm really liking him this time. He seems to have a little Russell Hantz in him without being overly nasty to people.
Tony is one of the few people who can pull off this style of play. Someone like Joe Mena from HHH was a Tony wannabe. Domenick had a little Tony in him, but he was not nearly as frantic.
JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
While I agree, let’s not forget that Sophie had one too.
It was a mistake of her to blurt out that she had one in her pocket, no? Does this not put another idol into the queue as it were, and now everyone will be searching for it?
Can we also mention how great Jeremy has been this season? My guess is he agreed with Tony's plan easier than they made it seem. Really, what's not to like from Jeremy's perspective? You're getting out Sophie, who has been 100% against you the whole game. You're bringing Michele along, who is your biggest ally at this point. And why would Tony be lying? He wouldn't come up to you right before Tribal Council to try and make you feel safe. That would have been done already.
But people have been coming to Jeremy all season long. We saw it here with Tony, but I believe it was last week or the week before that where they had shots of Jeremy sitting on the same spot on the same bench with person after person coming up to him, telling every plan, all day long. That's some strong gameplay if you ask me. He's not needing to be in every conversation, because people always come back and tell him what's up.
But people have been coming to Jeremy all season long. We saw it here with Tony, but I believe it was last week or the week before that where they had shots of Jeremy sitting on the same spot on the same bench with person after person coming up to him, telling every plan, all day long. That's some strong gameplay if you ask me. He's not needing to be in every conversation, because people always come back and tell him what's up.
JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
You spelled Rob wrong.
I don't think it really impacts Sophie's game. It will likely put another idol back into the game, but it likely won't affect her anymore. Her idol is dead; she can't bring it back from EoE. I'm sure even without the blurt, somebody would have found the replacement idol by the time she gets back in. Producers haven't been making them as hard to find as in the past. They like to encourage idols to be found and played.
I don't think an EoE player will win. I don't think the players in the game will allow it to happen after season 38.
manmythlegend
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Sophie has zero chance of coming back into the game so it doesn't matter. No way is she beating all those beasts on EoE.
I hate this argument. If EoE is a part of the game, and the players are fighting their way back into the game fair and square as laid out in the rules, why shouldn't they be able to win? If they can't win, then get rid of EoE.
manmythlegend
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I like Jeremy and he is playing fine. As things stand right now though his main selling point is simply surviving. He's been in the danger zone several times and has managed to survive. He needs to do something to spice up his resume.
Additionally, I gotta say, he was being pretty damn annoying after the last tribal when he was asking people what happened. Tony rightly responded, "What do you mean? You know what happened. We had a plan and you left."
I am sorry none of my Survivor opinions align with yours.
I don't have actual knowledge on it, but my guess is they wouldn't allow it. As a fan, I don't think I'd like that. So that actually means they probably would allow it.
manmythlegend
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Lol no problem but I've heard this EoE argument before and it's troubling. If players that go to EoE shouldn't be able to win, then do away with EoE. But as long as the players are following the rules, they should be able to win like anyone else.
BrianLo
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The actual individual immunity idol? No it definitely can't be moved after the votes are read. It also can't be moved after the votes are cast.
flynnibus
Premium Member
they can move idols after votes are cast... the question is after votes are started to be read
JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
Okay, just finished reading it.
I was totally hoping he would address the Jeremy/Tony final two in the challenge.
I was watching last night with my son, and he asked if Jeremy deliberately jumped off. To me, it felt like a ballgame (oh how I miss baseball right now) where a player loses track of how many outs there are, and starts to walk off the field with only two down.
Did anyone else feel that Jeremy thought he’d won, and just jumped off?