Surprise! Red Tier Now Begins Sunday; Downtown Disney Restaurants???

TP2000

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I sure did. Funnily enough, you responded to PMs that had nothing to do with meet-ups, but never the ones that did. Knowing what I know now, it’s no longer a mystery as to why you never responded.

Here's a funny thing others might also find useful. I just found out this website tracks all your PM/envelope conversations for all eternity! I joined here in 2003, but don't remember the PM feature arriving until much later, maybe a decade ago? It turns out I have many, many saved PM conversations that go back to 2009. Who knew?!

Now pardon me for not remembering this, but you and I actually had three little fun notes sent to each other, one in 2012 and two in 2015. It was the second one you sent in May, 2015 that invited me and a few other folks for a meet-up. I imagine I didn't realize it because at that same week I was receiving several other PM conversations from posters here regarding a thread about WDW vs. DLR vacations and how to plan for them differently. Your invitation apparently got lost in that shuffle of Mid-May, 2015.

I never took offense to it.

Phew! That's very kind of you. And again, my mother is rolling over in her grave on this one! 😀

But it might spur others here to go back and check their archived messages. I had no idea that feature was doing that, and it's absolutely fascinating and very funny to read through a decade later! Go check it out, gang.
 

Sailor310

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I love that! What a wonderful way to spend a high school summer.

It sounds much better than shoveling liquefied fish guts from a wheelbarrow onto campus flower beds. :(
Yes. Lots of high schoolers. Playing catch with a basketball with the show dolphins when they were 'off duty'. Though, at the end of the day, I might get a little surly with a tourist that has to buy 'one more t-shirt' after closing, when I had a date that night.
 
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amjt660

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FYI, regarding Canada being a fashionable escape from the horrible USA...

Bloomberg just updated it's vaccination data for Friday. The science & data is now this...

Vaccination Rates as of February 12th, 2021
United States = 15 Doses Per 100 People, 11.2% Received 1 Dose, 3.9% Received 2 Doses
Canada = 3 Doses Per 100 People, 1.8% Received 1 Dose, 0.7% Received 2 Doses


Most of the European Union remains not much better than Canada.

Hello
Canadian here and I am very disappointed with my government’s vaccination program
We are getting short shipped and do not have the fortitude to stand up for ourselves

Max
 

TP2000

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Hello
Canadian here and I am very disappointed with my government’s vaccination program
We are getting short shipped and do not have the fortitude to stand up for ourselves

Max

Hello!
I had relatives up in B.C. and used to ski Whistler regularly. It's an absolutely gorgeous corner of the world with wonderful people!

But the way the Canadian government has handled their vaccine program is quite alarming. The European Union is also doing a very poor job, but Canada is just a tick behind even the woeful European response. The UK is the sole exception to that rule in Europe. Impressive work by the UK government!

But yeah.... Canada. It's quite surprising, really. :(

Bloomberg just updated it's fabulous vaccine tracking site 10 minutes ago. This data is fresh off the wire...

Vaccine Rates As Of February 13th, 2021
United States = 16 Doses Per 100 People, 11.5% Of Population Given 1 Dose, 4.2% Of Population Given 2 Doses
Canada = 3 Doses Per 100 People, 1.8% Of Population Given 1 Dose, 0.8% Of Population Given 2 Doses


 

unmitigated disaster

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No, there are times we need to add to it. "Employee" is often not descriptive enough for our conversation here.

Specifically, this came up in conversation recently in this forum because we were talking about "living wage" issues and how much CM's earn versus other entry-level, unskilled positions in SoCal.

All employees are not equal when it comes to education, formal training, and skill sets. Some employees are Unskilled, some are Semi-Skilled, some are Skilled employees, and some are Professionals.

Now before I get shouted down as being classist, and before I can return to my table at the Plaza Inn where I yell "You Suck!" at every passing busboy, realize that those four terms were taken just minutes ago from the United States Department of Labor from their website pages describing American labor classes.

In addition, my Google search to the federal government revealed in the employment industry those terms (Unskilled, Skilled, Professional, etc.) are still used widely and without stigma in 2020-2021 by employment agencies and online search tools for employees like Indeed.com, various employment blogs, American trade unions, etc.



Most people do not go around classifying jobs in casual conversation anymore than they go around classifying animals by their FULL taxonomic ranks (I am aware zoologists at alia often do use genus and species names).
 

TP2000

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Most people do not go around classifying jobs in casual conversation anymore than they go around classifying animals by their FULL taxonomic ranks (I am aware zoologists at alia often do use genus and species names).

I agree with that. It's a very niche discussion topic.

Also, most people do not discuss in casual conversation what the wage scale should be for a theme park ride operator versus a plumber versus an electrical engineer.

But that's exactly the type of conversation we have had here in this forum, and will likely have again here in the future. Which is also where the classification of labor types comes up in conversation.
 

Bullseye1967

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Hello!
I had relatives up in B.C. and used to ski Whistler regularly. It's an absolutely gorgeous corner of the world with wonderful people!

But the way the Canadian government has handled their vaccine program is quite alarming. The European Union is also doing a very poor job, but Canada is just a tick behind even the woeful European response. The UK is the sole exception to that rule in Europe. Impressive work by the UK government!

But yeah.... Canada. It's quite surprising, really. :(

Bloomberg just updated it's fabulous vaccine tracking site 10 minutes ago. This data is fresh off the wire...

Vaccine Rates As Of February 13th, 2021
United States = 16 Doses Per 100 People, 11.5% Of Population Given 1 Dose, 4.2% Of Population Given 2 Doses
Canada = 3 Doses Per 100 People, 1.8% Of Population Given 1 Dose, 0.8% Of Population Given 2 Doses


I am just amazed by some of this data. I watch the evening news every night and I would think that our government (both State and Federal) are absolute idiots. How is the United States doing better than basically every country on earth? All I ever hear is how terrible our rollout is going. If you are getting the same news from the media you watch please read this article.
 

drizgirl

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I am just amazed by some of this data. I watch the evening news every night and I would think that our government (both State and Federal) are absolute idiots. How is the United States doing better than basically every country on earth? All I ever hear is how terrible our rollout is going. If you are getting the same news from the media you watch please read this article.
Maybe try a different news source?
 
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TP2000

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I am just amazed by some of this data. I watch the evening news every night and I would think that our government (both State and Federal) are absolute idiots. How is the United States doing better than basically every country on earth? All I ever hear is how terrible our rollout is going. If you are getting the same news from the media you watch please read this article.

Thank you, that's exactly my point for posting that solid and hard data on this issue. It's telling that some here don't like it. :)

I watch/tape Rachel Maddow daily and watch at least some of her show daily live or via recording. I like Rachel personally, and I imagine she'd be fun to sit next to at a dinner party. But she's also a perfect sounding board for what the Left is talking about, or ignoring, at any given moment. And this type of hard vaccination data is never discussed or mentioned, even though it is very enlightening and makes a very valid point (as verifiable, official hard data inherently does).

Many national media outlets have a vaccine tracker website, so the data is widely available to them even though it doesn't end up on their evening TV news programs.

The data for Monday, after the weekend, was just released on Bloomberg an hour ago. Although for the USA it's under-reported today because of today's federal holiday. Expect to see a bigger than normal jump tomorrow for the USA stats.

Vaccine Rates As Of Monday, February 15th
United Kingdom = 24 Doses Per 100 People, 22.9% Of Population Given 1 Dose, 0.9% Of Population Given 2 Doses
United States = 17 Doses Per 100 People, 11.9% Of Population Given 1 Dose, 4.5% Of Population Given 2 Doses
Spain = 5 Doses Per 100 People, 3.2% Of Population Given 1 Dose, 2.3% of Population Given 2 Doses
Germany = 5 Doses Per 100 People, 3.3% Of Population Given 1 Dose, 1.7% Of Population Given 2 Doses
Italy = 5 Doses Per 100 People, 2.8% Of Population Given 1 Dose, 2.1% Of Population Given 2 Doses
France = 4 Doses Per 100 People, 3.5% Of Population Given 1 Dose, 1.0% Of Population Given 2 Doses
Canada = 3 Doses Per 100 People, 1.8% Of Population Given 1 Dose, 0.8% Of Population Given 2 Doses
Mexico = 0.5 Doses Per 100 People, 0.5% Of Population Given 1 Dose, 0.1% Of Population Given 2 Doses


Then there are the wealthy Pacific Rim countries that still have yet to even begin vaccinating their citizens; Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, etc.

Australia hopes to begin mass vaccinations in March. New Zealand won't begin until the middle of the year. :oops:

 

Stevek

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So it looks like the new Star Wars Trading post opened today in the Rainforest Gift shop. Based on the one video I saw, they did a really nice job on it. Great theming though the shop did feel a bit small. One missed opportunity, shoulda used the 2 fish tanks and repurposed them as Bacta tanks with a floating Luke Skywalker or other character.

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Nirya

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The vaccine distributions are actually pretty easy to understand if you look past the raw numbers into what's actually going on in each area. The United States, through sheer force of its own stupidity, has not handled the COVID outbreak at even close to the level that Europe/Canada/Pacific Rim nations have. Due to that, and due to American's inability to follow basic health and safety guidelines without breaking down into a bout of hysterics about "MY FREEDOMS", it becomes pretty clear that the United States has a more pressing need for the vaccine compared to the many other parts of the world (if you look at infection numbers, the UK sits in a similar boat. Weird how that happened).

Vaccines are currently a zero-sum game at the moment. There is only so much supply available, and we aren't at the point where anyone who wants the vaccine can get it in a reasonable amount of time. You look at those Pacific Rim countries, and they have the virus pretty-much controlled at this point, and will lock down entire areas if they find a positive case. There isn't as much of a present need for the vaccine when compared to the United States and the UK (and France which is having a moment). And the knock-on effects of our failures regarding containing the virus are impacting vaccine distribution. Take Canada, for example: they have contracts to get the vaccine in numbers comparable to the US, but those contracts are being delayed to help fix the issues in the US first. Given that the US also has the financial muscle to throw a ridiculous amount of money at fixing the solution that other countries cannot hope for, and it is completely unsurprising that the United States is vaccinating more people than anywhere else.

That said, there are still problems with the rollout. Leaving distribution up to the states has proven to be a poor choice, especially with not creating a national model to get the vaccine out to areas of need as efficiently as possible. Distribution has also been poor, which is hurting more-populous states that are struggling to get access to the amounts of the vaccine they need, as has our frankly-bonkers approach to who gets vaccinated first.

So in summation: yes we are immunizing more people than other places, but there's a lot going on that explains why, and doesn't excuse the United States at any point.
 

Disney Analyst

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Hello
Canadian here and I am very disappointed with my government’s vaccination program
We are getting short shipped and do not have the fortitude to stand up for ourselves

Max

Hello!
I had relatives up in B.C. and used to ski Whistler regularly. It's an absolutely gorgeous corner of the world with wonderful people!

But the way the Canadian government has handled their vaccine program is quite alarming. The European Union is also doing a very poor job, but Canada is just a tick behind even the woeful European response. The UK is the sole exception to that rule in Europe. Impressive work by the UK government!

But yeah.... Canada. It's quite surprising, really. :(

Bloomberg just updated it's fabulous vaccine tracking site 10 minutes ago. This data is fresh off the wire...

Vaccine Rates As Of February 13th, 2021
United States = 16 Doses Per 100 People, 11.5% Of Population Given 1 Dose, 4.2% Of Population Given 2 Doses
Canada = 3 Doses Per 100 People, 1.8% Of Population Given 1 Dose, 0.8% Of Population Given 2 Doses



Also Canadian here.

Unfortunately there isn't much our government can do about this. We have the contracts, but as mentioned by @Nirya - the US is getting priority while we are stuck with all the manufacturing delays from our suppliers in Europe.

Now that those delays have ended things should start ramping up here, but I agree it is disappointing that we got shorted for so many weeks. I hope we make up the pace now.

What I wish our Government had really invested in from March 2020 to now was building our own Vaccine manufacturing plants so we don't have to rely on other countries.
 

George Lucas on a Bench

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So it looks like the new Star Wars Trading post opened today in the Rainforest Gift shop. Based on the one video I saw, they did a really nice job on it. Great theming though the shop did feel a bit small. One missed opportunity, shoulda used the 2 fish tanks and repurposed them as Bacta tanks with a floating Luke Skywalker or other character.

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I wouldn't put it past Disney to theme a store with a guy in a diaper floating in a tube. It's just so...immersive!
 

TP2000

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Also Canadian here.

Unfortunately there isn't much our government can do about this. We have the contracts, but as mentioned by @Nirya - the US is getting priority while we are stuck with all the manufacturing delays from our suppliers in Europe.

Now that those delays have ended things should start ramping up here, but I agree it is disappointing that we got shorted for so many weeks. I hope we make up the pace now.

What I wish our Government had really invested in from March 2020 to now was building our own Vaccine manufacturing plants so we don't have to rely on other countries.

That seems truly bizarre that Canada has no vaccine manufacturer on Canadian soil.

And Ottawa knew that a year ago and did nothing to get a vaccine manufacturing facility built and operating by 2021???

Pfizer is making its vaccines for America at its plant in Kalamazoo, Michigan. Moderna is making its vaccines for America in Bloomington, Indiana. And Johnson&Johnson's vaccine plant is in Maryland.

I wonder if there was ever any attempt by Ottawa to ask America for help and vaccine supply? Or if Ottawa just went straight to Europe and got put at the back of the line over there?
 

TP2000

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So it looks like the new Star Wars Trading post opened today in the Rainforest Gift shop. Based on the one video I saw, they did a really nice job on it. Great theming though the shop did feel a bit small. One missed opportunity, shoulda used the 2 fish tanks and repurposed them as Bacta tanks with a floating Luke Skywalker or other character.

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That is hysterical!!! 🤣

Certainly, WDI missed an opportunity for those aquarium tubes. At least until this happens...

 

Disney Analyst

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That seems truly bizarre that Canada has no vaccine manufacturer on Canadian soil.

And Ottawa knew that a year ago and did nothing to get a vaccine manufacturing facility built and operating by 2021???

Pfizer is making its vaccines for America at its plant in Kalamazoo, Michigan. Moderna is making its vaccines for America in Bloomington, Indiana. And Johnson&Johnson's vaccine plant is in Maryland.

I wonder if there was ever any attempt by Ottawa to ask America for help and vaccine supply? Or if Ottawa just went straight to Europe and got put at the back of the line over there?

I believe anything we had was shutdown by previous governments, and nothing was able to get online in time somehow...

They do have some manufacturing they hope to have up by late this year. A bit late hey?

It seems our contracts are only with the Europe factions. I'm unsure if the US side is making anything for anyone else right now?
 
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