Stuff like this really shouldn't happen....

[Surfin' Tuna]

Based on your argument, the cleanliness of park could also be explained by the attendees', largely Japanese I presume, prioritization of cleanliness. I'm not familiar with Japanese culture at all but, if what you're saying is true, I highly doubt any park attendees would smash trash into a trash can or stack items on top of it.

It is unfair to compare to Tokyo Disney for several reasons, but the culture and people are different that's for sure. I do blame the park goers for a large portion of the mess at the parks. When I was in Japan for a while, I noticed a lack of public trashcans. It was explained to me that people there take their trash home with them and dispose of it. I didn't follow them home, but it made sense to me.

That being said, this particular ride has long been a source of consternation for many on these boards. It is filthy for any number of reasons discussed previously. That all being said, Disney can do a better job of keeping the parks cleaner (I know this, because they once did). We can all do a better job of not being slobs. I am guessing the vast majority of people on here (and in general) would carry their trash to the next trash can, but there are plenty who see the over flowing can and just shove it in there or place it on top knowing it will fall.

That all being said, two things do come to mind: 1) Disney should certainly have a feeling how often the trash cans need to be checked and emptied if necessary. 2) The guy in charge of that can might have fallen and broken his leg on the way to check it. We can't , or shouldn't, condemn management based on this one picture. The mold, other trash, and general disrepair of Buzz Lightyear on any given day is a different story and there are several threads about it.

 

[DisneyDoctor]

It is unfair to compare to Tokyo Disney for several reasons, but the culture and people are different that's for sure. I do blame the park goers for a large portion of the mess at the parks. When I was in Japan for a while, I noticed a lack of public trashcans. It was explained to me that people there take their trash home with them and dispose of it. I didn't follow them home, but it made sense to me.

That being said, this particular ride has long been a source of consternation for many on these boards. It is filthy for any number of reasons discussed previously. That all being said, Disney can do a better job of keeping the parks cleaner (I know this, because they once did). We can all do a better job of not being slobs. I am guessing the vast majority of people on here (and in general) would carry their trash to the next trash can, but there are plenty who see the over flowing can and just shove it in there or place it on top knowing it will fall.

That all being said, two things do come to mind: 1) Disney should certainly have a feeling how often the trash cans need to be checked and emptied if necessary. 2) The guy in charge of that can might have fallen and broken his leg on the way to check it. We can't , or shouldn't, condemn management based on this one picture. The mold, other trash, and general disrepair of Buzz Lightyear on any given day is a different story and there are several threads about it.

Really well put, Tuna. I agree!

 

[Kamikaze]

Paris, yep big time!
WDW, periodically/occasionally
Tokyo, nope....would be considered a freak occurrence

The frequency of seeing a trashcan overflow like that in Tokyo Disney Resort is about the same as a solar eclipse passing by there.

Those 2 parks are immaculately maintained

You can't compare Tokyo really. Thats OLC being OLC. And to be fair, how much of that is the guests being more respectful and not OLC?

 

[Tony the Tigger]

An isolated trash can with overflowing trash does not represent the state of TWDC or WDW.

Nor should the same trash can insight this sort of reaction. I’d be willing to bet just about anything that a trash can overflowed at least once during the not-so-distant past with concrete cleaner than your kitchen table.

I agree. But, *incite.

Looks like Disney Dump.

Short staffing. Or could be that more people are bringing their own food in to save money (from all the nickle and diming) and so there's been a huge uptick in trash.

I don’t agree. But, *nickel.

In a properly run operation it wouldn't happen period. Ignoring it will do nothing, but making it into a big stink might result in action being taken. A bit like any number of consumer complaints that go no where until a local news program runs a story on the shady business and then instantly action is taken by the shady business to address the problem. The only problem is that the OP needed to spread the word of dirty Disney in a better method than here on this forum where you have so many Disney fans that will just make excuses instead of try to shame Disney into taking better care of the parks.

You expect this at the state fair, or Walmart.

I expect the sludge of America at Walmart.

The post I quoted did?

He didn't site any of those other things...

Closer. But *cite

 

[DisneyDoctor]

I agree. But, *incite.



I don’t agree. But, *nickel.







I expect the sludge of America at Walmart.



Closer. But *cite

Lol good thing I’m not an English teacher.

 

[esskay]

Saw a few bins like this over the last week. Even compared to a year ago the general tidiness and maintenance of the parks has fallen off a cliff. There are areas that are dirty, staff clearly not giving a damn and an overall “meh that’ll do” feeling to everything.

 

[Damon7777]

It is unfair to compare to Tokyo Disney

Here are 2 Tokyo cast member events I witnessed that would not happen at WDW because of different corporate culture on keeping the parks pristine and wonderful.

A young boy vomited in Hunny Hunt's makeshift queue(whereby guests swarm an attraction and the line gets so long so fast that it spills into the main park without rope barriers and CM's hold signs showing the beginning of the line) and in under 1 minute there were 2 CM's on the scene-----one to help with Mom(I presume she was Mom) and steer traffic away from the mess and the other to start cleanup.
In LESS THAN 1 MINUTE it was dealt with!


On a rainy day 2 CM's with sqeegies were stationed at an area that had a depression just deep enough to collect standing water. They were there pushing water even though the rains were continuously filling it so guests would not have to step in an under 1 inch water depth.

 

[DisneyDoctor]

Here are 2 Tokyo cast member events I witnessed that would not happen at WDW because of different corporate culture on keeping the parks pristine and wonderful.

A young boy vomited in Hunny Hunt's makeshift queue(whereby guests swarm an attraction and the line gets so long so fast that it spills into the main park without rope barriers and CM's hold signs showing the beginning of the line) and in under 1 minute there were 2 CM's on the scene-----one to help with Mom(I presume she was Mom) and steer traffic away from the mess and the other to start cleanup.
In LESS THAN 1 MINUTE it was dealt with!


On a rainy day 2 CM's with sqeegies were stationed at an area that had a depression just deep enough to collect standing water. They were there pushing water even though the rains were continuously filling it so guests would not have to step in an under 1 inch water depth.

So, is it the differences in corporate culture, or differences in Japanese culture? You've cited both, now pick one and stick with it.

 

[marni1971]

Ummmm do you feel the same way when you go anywhere else? Its a public place with high capacity.

Indeed.

But once the issue was known about why wasn’t it attended to? The greeter, greeter two, grouper, load or unload could easily have picked up the phone from where they were positioned and called it in.

Far be it from me to say perhaps it’s the reduced levels of frontline staff since last fall.

 

[Damon7777]

what you're saying is true, I highly doubt any park attendees would smash trash into a trash can or stack items on top of it.

It is true and you're correct; guests most certainly would not trash up the joint like that picture with overflowing filth.
But here is the kicker: in Tokyo that can would have been serviced/emptied so guests would have never been faced with the cultural obligation to carry their junk out in the first place.

 

[Kamikaze]

It is true and you're correct; guests most certainly would not trash up the joint like that picture with overflowing filth.
But here is the kicker: in Tokyo that can would have been serviced/emptied so guests would have never been faced with the cultural obligation to carry their junk out in the first place.

In 99.9% of cases, yes. But you can't guarantee that in 100%. And if you are under the impression that this isn't the same situation (the statistical outlier) then you're wrong.

As Martin said, the real mistake is made by the CMs not reporting it when the guests/poster told them about it. The custodial CM who was supposed to get this can - something could have happened. Whatever it is. But if the CMs who were informed had called it in, another custodial could have come to empty it.

 

[NickMaio]

Ummmm do you feel the same way when you go anywhere else? Its a public place with high capacity.

Disney is not just a public place. The point of the post is not trash collection rather Disney's decline in sanitary collection of specific areas in the MK and their park image.
A while ago an overflowing trash can at WDW was not seen.

 

[eliza61nyc]

 

[FullSailDan]

Indeed.

But once the issue was known about why wasn’t it attended to? The greeter, greeter two, grouper, load or unload could easily have picked up the phone from where they were positioned and called it in.

Far be it from me to say perhaps it’s the reduced levels of frontline staff since last fall.

Beyond that, if it had been like that for a while, why didn't one of them just go pick it up and take care of it? They went to traditions, they know what a Disney scoop is. No ops manager would be mad at them for leaving post to attend to something like that if they coordinated. This is why lean and cheap is not always the most effective in my mind.

 

[eliza61nyc]

That’s it!! Enough!! I am NOT going to WDW this year!!

LMAO

Well that's one way to reduce the crowds.
We need a tv like the one in the movie "Pleasantville". Can suck people back to 1975 Disneyworld. Whenever anything is not picture perfect all you do is push a button on the remote and "bippie boppidie bo" back to the "Walt" era of disney

 

[Damon7777]

Ummmm do you feel the same way when you go anywhere else? Its a public place with high capacity

Depends on the context and expectation:
I could see it happening at Woodstock or at Imperial Beach or at Candlestick Park.

 

[Damon7777]

Not a big deal, Disney should turn that part of the Buzz queue into a meet and greet with Jadis

 

[crxbrett]

What grinds my gears about this photo is that ,no the bin shouldn't have been that full but, who are the people who just dump the empty bottles on the top ? If that bin is full then just carry it to the next one ...

Amen BB-8! Unfortunately, a lot of people lack any sort of common sense and just mindlessly do things like lemmings. Or sadly, they simply don't care. When it comes to trash or disposing of it or cleaning or avoiding making a mess, I always have to wonder what the homes or cars of people that do that sort of thing look like. Would they just throw a bottle randomly or stack trash at home? Would they just toss food in their backseat? Scary things is, many people probably do!



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[xdan0920]

Amen BB-8! Unfortunately, a lot of people lack any sort of common sense and just mindlessly do things like lemmings. Or sadly, they simply don't care. When it comes to trash or disposing of it or cleaning or avoiding making a mess, I always have to wonder what the homes or cars of people that do that sort of thing look like. Would they just throw a bottle randomly or stack trash at home? Would they just toss food in their backseat? Scary things is, many people probably do!



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I own a gas station, ergo I see the insides of many peoples cars. They are actual dumps on wheels. People are animals.

 

[jloucks]

I don't have an opinion about the trash can in Buzz, could not care less. However, if Walt did indeed make that statement, and he might well have, it just shows how much different society is today then it was in the 50's. Today if people see trash on the ground, they just take it as an invitation to add theirs to it. This has become an awful country to live in due to social entitlement. I don't think we need any immigration laws, in a few more years, if not now, no one is going to want to come here anyway.

littering is just lazy and classless. I'm not sure it is an indicator of entitlement.

*soapbox* This has become a less-than-ideal country to live in because of wealth disparity, not entitlement. Entitlement is a symptom of parenting philosophies.