Stuff like this really shouldn't happen....

[jloucks]

But remember.
"It was all started with a trash can"

Well, yea, we are all looking for something to talk about. Board was slow. Trashcan thread came up. Entertainment ensued. Everything is working as intended.

 

[jloucks]

I see it in the parking garage in the morning almost every time I go there.

I also see far more trash bins overlfowing at Universal that aren't in queues. At least at Disney the queue bins have somewhat of an excuse in that the queues are packed all day and those are hard to get to. But at Universal I see bins on the walkways overflowing.

Universal uses a small fraction of the number of custodial employees per park section compared to Disney so that's a possible reason why.

You guys may all have a case of "park privilege' going on. I have never seen an overflowing trash can in the 5ish trips I have made.

...maybe it is because you go so much you are bound to catch a kink at some point?

*I think I saw a broken solar compactor trash can at Uni once. Those thing scare me a little, makes me anxious to stick my hand in.

 

[Goofyernmost]

littering is just lazy and classless. I'm not sure it is an indicator of entitlement.

*soapbox* This has become a less-than-ideal country to live in because of wealth disparity, not entitlement. Entitlement is a symptom of parenting philosophies.

I will agree with both your statements, but, wealth disparity is part of the problem as is entitlement. But they come from and are focused on two different things. Wealth disparity is not necessarily obvious in a Disney Park. Everyone spent a small fortune to get in there. Wealth Disparity, on the other hand, is a growing cancer on our society when wealth rules. It doesn't have to be that way for either one. In the words of the leader of disparity.....Sad!

 

[21stamps]

LMAO

Well that's one way to reduce the crowds.
We need a tv like the one in the movie "Pleasantville". Can suck people back to 1975 Disneyworld. Whenever anything is not picture perfect all you do is push a button on the remote and "bippie boppidie bo" back to the "Walt" era of disney

Don’t tell anyone that we already planned non-Disney vacations for 2018.

It’s all because I knew the trash can would happen!!

 

[21stamps]

Side note.. I’m mega disappointed that no one caught my O.A.R. reference last night.

 

[jloucks]

Don’t tell anyone that we already planned non-Disney vacations for 2018.

 

[Mr Ferret 75]

Well, yea, we are all looking for something to talk about. Board was slow. Trashcan thread came up. Entertainment ensued. Everything is working as intended.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Yes, Tokyo Disneyland is immaculate. As soon as you drop trash on the ground the Disney pro street sweeper is already sweeping it into the trash can before the trash hits the ground.

I used to be that way in WDW as well, until smoking was banned except in designated areas, then all those, materialize as if by magic, custodial CM's just completely disappeared. I guess that was one good side effect of smokers. Now there is no need, so fewer pick ups.

 

[righttrack]

Those "last stop" garbage cans are among the most used. You've got a bottle in hand, a drink, whatever and you're about to go on a ride and those absolutely need to be clear. I would suggest give it a mate. Two cans instead of one, as well as have focus on those first. Food service areas second and "last stop" cans first.

 

[jloucks]

I will agree with both your statements, but, wealth disparity is part of the problem as is entitlement. But they come from and are focused on two different things. Wealth disparity is not necessarily obvious in a Disney Park. Everyone spent a small fortune to get in there. Wealth Disparity, on the other hand, is a growing cancer on our society when wealth rules. It doesn't have to be that way for either one. In the words of the leader of disparity.....Sad!

True, fortunately (?) they are different types of problems. Entitlement is like hippies and hipster, annoying, but for the most part harmless. The other, is flat out dangerous and impacts everything including healthcare, housing, transportation, upward mobility, education, etc.

I have found WDW to be a sort of canary in the mine shaft for our economy. If they can keep the parks that full, with it being as expensive as it is, the economy must be hanging in there.

 

[Goofyernmost]

True, fortunately (?) they are different types of problems. Entitlement is like hippies and hipster, annoying, but for the most part harmless. The other, is flat out dangerous and impacts everything including healthcare, housing, transportation, upward mobility, education, etc.

I have found WDW to be a sort of canary in the mine shaft for our economy. If they can keep the parks that full, with it being as expensive as it is, the economy must be hanging in there.

That almost could be because of the feeling of impending doom and spending while they can, but, this is a little off topic.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Side note.. I’m mega disappointed that no one caught my O.A.R. reference last night.

I was about to log on last night but I drank a bottle of whiskey before I came... came to the bar to see what's the same.

 

[DisneyDoctor]

It is true and you're correct; guests most certainly would not trash up the joint like that picture with overflowing filth.
But here is the kicker: in Tokyo that can would have been serviced/emptied so guests would have never been faced with the cultural obligation to carry their junk out in the first place.

Good point! Thanks for sharing the comparison, I wish to someday visit.

 

[Chef Mickey]

It's unacceptable on both sides. Disney, particularly the CMs responsible for their attraction, need to step it up. I believe the CMs at the attraction are responsible for notifying someone this is the case.

1) Disney needs to step up their game. Period. No excuses, even if it's bad guest behavior.
2) That said, guests should NOT add trash to a can that is THAT full. I realize this is secondary, but walk 10 feet to another one.
3) This seems to be a problem at night in Tomorrowland because people gravitate her at night. Probably need more trash cans and more management of the situation.

 

[21stamps]

I was about to log on last night but I drank a bottle of whiskey before I came... came to the bar to see what's the same.

Oh, I knew you were cool peeps!!!!!!!!!!
I was worried.

 

[Chef Mickey]

I don't see it. Service and maintenance crews can get to most any spot if needed, providing park cleanliness were a high priority. [[[[This stuff virtually NEVER happens at Tokyo Disney Resort. Tokyo Disneyland itself sure feels like the busiest/most crowded park in the world(I'm considering first click and shared attendance at WDW with that declaration) and is relatively spotless. And Disney Sea is terribly busy too and is pristine because Japanese prioritize cleanliness.]]]]

1) there are multiple exits/doorways for a worker to pop in and out in the queues
2) the lanes typically are wide enough to allow for workers to pass through with several "pardon me's" or "excuse me's"
3) switchback ropes and horizontal poles can be readily unlatched/unhooked or turned to cut through lines in the queues

I've been to Tokyo several times. The reason it never happens in Tokyo is likely because the Japanese would NEVER add trash to a can that is full. They don't litter, they don't break stuff, they don't pick at stuff, and they treat property with respect.

The Japanese are amazing people and cleanliness and respect are culturally ingrained in their society. The average guest in Japan respect the property far more than the average guest at WDW.

 

[jloucks]

I've been to Tokyo several times. The reason it never happens in Tokyo is likely because the Japanese would NEVER add trash to a can that is full. They don't litter, they don't break stuff, they don't pick at stuff, and they treat property with respect.

The Japanese are amazing people and cleanliness and respect are culturally ingrained in their society. The average guest in Japan respect the property far more than the average guest at WDW.

I watched a show recently on NatGeo (might have been Discovery) that wen't into the cultural aspects of littering in Japan. Not only is there no littering, but there are not trashcans everywhere either. You are expected to bring your trash with you and deposit at home or work.

 

[Chef Mickey]

I watched a show recently on NatGeo (might have been Discovery) that wen't into the cultural aspects of littering in Japan. Not only is there no littering, but there are not trashcans everywhere either. You are expected to bring your trash with you and deposit at home or work.

This is correct in many parts of Japan.

Tokyo Disney does have trashcans for convenience.

 

[Damon7777]

...maybe it is because you go so much you are bound to catch a kink at some point?

On day 1 of my very first Dis Paris resort visit I saw the equivalent of the subject picture in the Village Shopping Dining zone(Paris version of Downtown Disney). I have seen things like it occasionally at WDW. But, yes, you are correct in that some of us do tap the parks with frequency.

 

[Chef Mickey]

Yes, but there are alot of tourist from China and other parts of Asia who throw trash on the ground. It may look like the park is all Japanese park guests but there are people from alot of other countries too.

So, it can't simply be explained because of that. There is something that Oriental Land Company/Tokyo Disneyland is doing that is ensuring that the place is emaculate.

I guarantee you it's 90% a result of the guests. Of course there are tourists in Japan, but it's still a majority of Japanese there. It's their culture.

WDW has great management overall. The parks are immaculate 90% of the time also. It's the slob guests that can ruin it very quickly. You just don't get that as often in Japan because the quality of people is higher on average, sadly.