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'Strange World' Disney's 2022 Animated Film

Phroobar

Phroobar

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CaptainAmerica said:
If an architect has four months to design a house and they spend three months on internal meetings about what shade of yellow paint to use in the guest bedroom, are you going to be surprised if the house has structural problems?

It's not the yellow walls' fault that the house has structural problems, but I think it's perfectly legitimate to ask questions about the architect's use of time and resources.

We're not saying "stop painting walls yellow." We're saying "stop obsessing over wall color and get the big things right first."
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An architect has no involvement in interior design. That is what the interior designer does. Also an architect draws out the plans with an engineer to make sure there are no structural problems. It is builder that decides whether to follow the blue prints exactly or not.

It's not a good analogy but I get what you are trying to say.
 
CaptainAmerica

CaptainAmerica

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Phroobar said:
An architect has no involvement in interior design. That is what the interior designer does. Also an architect draws out the plans with an engineer to make sure there are no structural problems. It is builder that decides whether to follow the blue prints exactly or not.

It's not a good analogy but I get what you are trying to say.
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Every architecture firm I've ever encountered provides turnkey solutions. Maybe the firm employs people with degrees other than architecture but you still refer to the whole team as "my architect."
 
_caleb

_caleb

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CaptainAmerica said:
Is even one person going to sign up (or stay signed up) for Disney+ based on the inclusion of Strange World?
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I think a lot of people make streaming platform subscription decisions based on the number of new movies and series (up to a point, and then, as Netflix has shown, it’s just a bunch of trash to wade through).

They spent way too much for it, but I think it was developed while Disney was in a mode that said: “spend all we want to build up D+- we don’t have to think about profitability until 2024!”

Now that Iger is back (and investors are nervous), those days are over.
 
CaptainAmerica

CaptainAmerica

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_caleb said:
I think a lot of people make streaming platform subscription decisions based on the number of new movies and series (up to a point, and then, as Netflix has shown, it’s just a bunch of trash to wade through).
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That's true of General Entertainment content, but Kids content doesn't work that way. Most Netflix subscribers are going to watch the latest season of Stranger Things and then immediately start looking for the next show to watch. A kid will watch The Lion King and then rewatch The Lion King two dozen times over the next few months. The kids' library keeps the kids, while General Entertainment has to keep chasing audiences with new stuff. The only GE content that has Disney levels of rewatchability is The Office, but Peacock doesn't have anything that draws new subs in the first place.

_caleb said:
They spent way too much for it, but I think it was developed while Disney was in a mode that said: “spend all we want to build up D+- we don’t have to think about profitability until 2024!”

Now that Iger is back (and investors are nervous), those days are over.
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Except Iger is the one who came up with "spend all we want to build up D+- we don’t have to think about profitability until 2024!" in the first place so it's all a bit silly that he's the one everyone views as the great savior of the thing.
 
Heppenheimer

Heppenheimer

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CaptainAmerica said:
That's true of General Entertainment content, but Kids content doesn't work that way. Most Netflix subscribers are going to watch the latest season of Stranger Things and then immediately start looking for the next show to watch. A kid will watch The Lion King and then rewatch The Lion King two dozen times over the next few months. The kids' library keeps the kids, while General Entertainment has to keep chasing audiences with new stuff. The only GE content that has Disney levels of rewatchability is The Office, but Peacock doesn't have anything that draws new subs in the first place.
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Mickey Mouse Clubhouse and Puppy Dog Pals are almost on a continuous loop at my house for this exact reason. Wifey and I were hopeful that the newer Mickey Mouse Funhouse would enter the rotation, but it holds no interest for my kids (it looks like something Chapek would order to sell more toys).

Because I'll never get around to actually having the time to watch Andor or season 2 of The Mandalorian, this is really why we still have Disney+. The kids can watch (and get distracted by) the same shows endlessly.
 
_caleb

_caleb

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CaptainAmerica said:
That's true of General Entertainment content, but Kids content doesn't work that way. Most Netflix subscribers are going to watch the latest season of Stranger Things and then immediately start looking for the next show to watch. A kid will watch The Lion King and then rewatch The Lion King two dozen times over the next few months. The kids' library keeps the kids, while General Entertainment has to keep chasing audiences with new stuff. The only GE content that has Disney levels of rewatchability is The Office, but Peacock doesn't have anything that draws new subs in the first place.
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I don’t see Strange World as “kids content” so much as “family content,” but I take your point.
CaptainAmerica said:
Except Iger is the one who came up with "spend all we want to build up D+- we don’t have to think about profitability until 2024!" in the first place so it's all a bit silly that he's the one everyone views as the great savior of the thing.
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Iger did come up with that plan. And I think that he might have been able to keep investors’ confidence until October 2024 had he not left. But he now has pretty clear marching orders from the Board and from investors: get to profitability NOW.
 
erasure fan1

erasure fan1

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_caleb said:
I agree. But I don’t think Disney (or anyone, really) knows quite why The Mandalorian has been so well received (see The Book of Boba Fett for evidence of this).

Seems to me they’re still trying to sort out the formula.
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I think they do know why mando did well. Baby yoda. He was a cultural event hat everyone was talking about. And book of boba was just poorly done. Was it a boba Fett show, was it Mando...

It seems as if the Mando formula worked. But for some reason they haven't gone back to it with the other shows. Mando was an overarching story with each individual episode being it's own story for the most part. Very similar to the MCU infinity saga. I can't really think of any other show that's done it that way. So maybe they have the formula but they're too dumb to know it.
 
Vegas Disney Fan

Vegas Disney Fan

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We had a chance to watch it for free on the Wonder last weekend but we couldn’t justify giving up a couple hours of ship time for a movie, especially with the announcement it’s coming out in another week on D+.

I still think their D+ new release strategy is counterproductive, we downloaded Rise of Gru last night for $22 and my first thought was the other studios will make more every year off a couple Blu-ray sales than Disney will make off D+ subscriptions.

I know they’re trying to push new subs but I don’t see how the gains will ever replace the theater and video losses.
 
Vegas Disney Fan

Vegas Disney Fan

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CaptainAmerica said:
Bad example. Rise of Gru is streaming on Peacock.
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Maybe but that brings up another point, it didn’t convince me to subscribe to Peacock either, I don’t think Strange World is going to push anyone to D+, it’s just going to encourage existing subscribers to wait, and in Disneys case that’s 150 million households foregoing the tradition revenue, peacock is only 28 million households skipping tradition revenue.

Ironically the more successful the streaming service is the more damaging it’ll be to the theater and video bottom line.
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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CaptainAmerica said:
Every architecture firm I've ever encountered provides turnkey solutions. Maybe the firm employs people with degrees other than architecture but you still refer to the whole team as "my architect."
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That might be a regional definition but there are people the architect has nothing to do with like interior designers. This a pointless argument, so lets drop it.
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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Vegas Disney Fan said:
We had a chance to watch it for free on the Wonder last weekend but we couldn’t justify giving up a couple hours of ship time for a movie, especially with the announcement it’s coming out in another week on D+.

I still think their D+ new release strategy is counterproductive, we downloaded Rise of Gru last night for $22 and my first thought was the other studios will make more every year off a couple Blu-ray sales than Disney will make off D+ subscriptions.

I know they’re trying to push new subs but I don’t see how the gains will ever replace the theater and video losses.
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Why spend $22 for download the Rise of Gru when Amazon has the DVD for $10?
Same for DC League of Super Pets and The Bad Guys.
You can always rip the dvd and stream it from your computer to a tv.

Strange World will never push anyone to a Disney+ subscription. It isn't "must see streaming" like Stranger Things season 4 was. Is there anything on D+ that is considered "must see"?
 

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