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'Strange World' Disney's 2022 Animated Film
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SuddenStorm
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It's worth noting that there is already evidence of this. Right leaning employees even penned an open letter requesting the company remain politically neutral, and that the environment within the company is becoming less than pleasant if you aren't progressive. I actually think the letter makes a number of good points.
A good friend of mine who used to work in senior management in California shared a number of stories with me after they left the company (for what it's worth, they are gay)- examples like the team they were on sitting down for a project and the person who assembled the team looking around and saying 'there's too many white people' here.
An African American friend of theirs who was passed up for a promotion got one for something similar shortly after the DEI stuff took off back in 2020- but instead of being thrilled, the person felt like they got it due to their ethnicity, not the merits of their work.
The person even said there isn't a place for a straight white conservative guy in the company right now, or at least in the division we were talking about.
I just hope the powers that be know what they're doing- because right now they have the potential to reimagine and reinvigorate the Disney brand for the next generation, or destroy 100 years of public affection for the Disney brand.
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I would assume:
1. For the share of the ticket that the theater keeps, they waive that income.
2. For the share of the ticket that the theater pays the studio, they pay the studio.
3. They hope that the loyalty program pays for itself by:
a) The $20 a month you pay
b) You (or a good portion of people in the program) don't use it that much
c) Concessions, where theaters make most of their money selling you 12 cents worth of popcorn kernals and soda syrup for $12.
mickEblu
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I almost forgot about that letter. Thanks for sharing as well as your friends stories. I hope they figure it out soon.
TP2000
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I saw Cars 2 at home. It wasn't good. But they were already selling Billions (with a B) of merchandise off of Cars. And just about to open this little gem, which is the best new land in any American Disney park since New Orleans Square.
The Cars franchise is far from dead. Even if Luigi's Flying Tires was dumb and had to be replaced.
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TP2000
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That part is huge. @jeangreyforever also mentioned this quite nicely. Communist China is up to no good.
So why are America's premiere companies like Disney there at all? And the current strategy of keeping most of their films out of the Chinese market seems to undercut the entire reason Bob Iger invested Billions into that country in the first place.
I'm baffled, and yet reminded that when you get into bed with Communists the morning after is very ugly.
(Not that I've ever slept with a Communist myself. I do have some standards!)
There's another brilliant point. Everyone should read it again. The key words being "G" and "PG" rated "family/children's content" and also "just look at the numbers". From Disney, no less.
As a gay man who just moved from Southern California (Sorry Sacramento, find someone else to tax to the hilt!), and who has a few lifelong friends who are very liberal and thus dabbles in that social circle a bit, I can tell you that some people's worst fears about the worldview of California Gays is spot on. (In my case, also Seattle Gays and Portland Gays and a few DC Gays) They are childless and yet quick to look down on those who aren't gay and who have children, and who follow traditional societal norms in child rearing and/or are protective of their young children.
On the flip side, I have some friends who are Palm Springs Gays who have two twentysomething sons via a surrogate mother, which was ground breaking in the 1990's. And they're rather conservative and dislike all this sudden push of gay folks in the media! It turns out, gay people can be just as thought diverse as Black or
No kidding. The world will always change. But it's clear that America's parents aren't quite ready for it to change this much for children's animation released at Thanksgiving and marketed at families. That's the key difference that many here don't want to admit, and instead label anyone who pauses on that as a bigot or homophobe. They're not bigots and homophobes, they're just normal parents with 9 year old boys who aren't yet 14 and looking for a family movie.
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LittleBuford
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I hope those poor children aren't scarred for life when they see my partner and me holding hands in the Magic Kingdom. Whatever will their non-bigoted, non-homophobic parents do to cleanse their delicate minds of such filth?
TP2000
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They won't be. The parents will move on quickly as parents are trained to do, much like they move on with other human-based issues that aren't quite ready to discuss with a 9 year old's developing mind.
But if you ask those same parents to shell out 60 bucks to take the family to a Disney cartoon that presents those same issues, those parents will likely decide not to spend their hard earned money on that. Instead they'll go play mini-golf that weekend, or host a campout in the backyard, or bust out the old DVD of Cars and fix some microwave popcorn.
Which is a big part of the reason Strange World was so historically disastrous at the box office, and oddly barely marketed by Disney after they spent $180 Million on it and released it at Thanksgiving.
LittleBuford
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You certainly have a talent for spinning a very rich narrative out of very little material. You've repeated your line about Strange World so many times now that one would believe it to be a cold hard fact backed up by actual data. Even I have to remind myself that what you're now describing as "a big part" of the film's failure was, the other day, secondary to other factors:They won't be. The parents will move on quickly as parents are trained to do, much like they move on with other human-based issues that aren't quite ready to discuss with a 9 year old's developing mind.
But if you ask those same parents to shell out 60 bucks to take the family to a Disney cartoon that presents those same issues, those parents will likely decide not to spend their hard earned money on that. Instead they'll go play mini-golf that weekend, or host a campout in the backyard, or bust out the old DVD of Cars and fix some microwave popcorn.
Which is a big part of the reason Strange World was so historically disastrous at the box office, and oddly barely marketed by Disney after they spent $180 Million on it and released it at Thanksgiving.
ILoveWDW4ever
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For anyone wondering. This is Disneys reputation now.
They are a punchline.
They are a punchline.
Heppenheimer
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One of the things I learned about the theater industry working for AMC as a teenager- they're really snack purveyors who use the lure of movies to get people in the door. They'll take a loss on a ticket anytime, as long as enough people buy their snacks.
Heppenheimer
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And unlike Disney, Argentina is winning! They're favored to at least make the final, and have a decent chance to win the whole World Cup.
Let Argentina have its World Cup fun. Most teams get heavily criticized when they don't win (See: Germany...), this is an incredibly narrow-minded American view to criticize a team for winning with what they view as the wrong selection of people.
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Prince-1
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Pray it out of them.
ILoveWDW4ever
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This response, and the post it’s in response to, are far more “intolerant” than almost anything I’ve read here. Odd that.
Prince-1
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The truth does hurt sometimes. And if you think what I wrote is more intolerant than some of the homophobic rhetoric that has been posted on here then that says a lot.
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BuddyThomas
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Yup, my posts responding to the homophobia have been deleted but the homophobia remains for all to see.
Disney doesn't keep films out of China, China keeps Disney films out of China. China limits the amount of "Western" films to be shown in their country. And they tend to exclude any film that has gay characters or whose message might foment freedom movements.
As far as Disney's 'relationship' with China, I'd like to see anyone criticizing Disney for it swear under oath that they will not buy any product made-in-whole or made-in-part in China.
Check the components of your phone, computer, and all electronic devices to be sure. And your shoes and all your clothing. And that really inexpensive thing on Amazon sold by companies with names like GRENBLTX or YUSTRJON, or etc....
Or that they will not vote for any politician that doesn't vote for a total and complete trading ban with China.
All I want is consistency. If we're all already compromised, then is singling out one particular person/company really a critique of doing business with China, or, just a way to attack someone or corporation that one doesn't like?
Engaging with China was a Nixonian ploy.
Disstevefan1
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I am late to the thread, but I am super excited that Strange World will be on D+ this December!!! We don't go to the movie theater anymore, so it's great not having to wait and see it on D+
With all the talk about this movie I really want to watch to see what all the talk is about. There was a lot of talk about Lightyear and there was allegedly a kiss and even know I knew it was coming beforehand I must have missed, I guess I was looking down at my snack at the time
anyway I liked Lightyear as a standalone movie, I feel it's not part of Andy's toy story, but it's a good movie.
I am sure Strange World is fine too. I am looking forward to it.
With all the talk about this movie I really want to watch to see what all the talk is about. There was a lot of talk about Lightyear and there was allegedly a kiss and even know I knew it was coming beforehand I must have missed, I guess I was looking down at my snack at the time
anyway I liked Lightyear as a standalone movie, I feel it's not part of Andy's toy story, but it's a good movie.I am sure Strange World is fine too. I am looking forward to it.
Californian Elitist
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Given that I can likely count on one hand for the amount of black Disney characters there are, just two of them being leads, this “joke” doesn’t hit. Where’s the punchline? Or did I misunderstand?
Phroobar
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Saw it. Don't need to see it again.Have you yet tried the 65 hours worth of MCU movies yet?
That's not even counting the series.
