Strange question about SSE

mergatroid

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Slightly 'off topic' from the paperboy, however this fits in as it should appeal to those who are interested in the general workings of SSE. It's a video of it with the lights on during a special event and reveals things you'd never normally see. A word of warning, the guy filming says one or two inappropriate things just in case there's any young ears listening.

 

horizons82

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As far as the paperboy at Epcot, I never really felt like his facing the riders was an issue of "authentic-ness" in terms of the time-traveler theme.

In fact, I never felt like he was facing the riders specifically--I felt like he could have been on any given street corner yelling out his spiel and I was some anonymous traveler passing by. Despite being close to the ride vehicles I still felt like I was looking in at a scene rather than him looking at me.

Hard to believe they would take the time to adjust this extremely minor detail (assuming this is the reason why) when there are other things in much more need of attention.
 
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mergatroid

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As far as the paperboy at Epcot, I never really felt like his facing the riders was an issue of "authentic-ness" in terms of the time-traveler theme.

In fact, I never felt like he was facing the riders specifically--I felt like he could have been on any given street corner yelling out his spiel and I was some anonymous traveler passing by. Despite being close to the ride vehicles I still felt like I was looking in at a scene rather than him looking at me.

Hard to believe they would take the time to adjust this extremely minor detail (assuming this is the reason why) when there are other things in much more need of attention.

Wow, it's like you read my mind :cool:
 

Goofyernmost

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As far as the paperboy at Epcot, I never really felt like his facing the riders was an issue of "authentic-ness" in terms of the time-traveler theme.

In fact, I never felt like he was facing the riders specifically--I felt like he could have been on any given street corner yelling out his spiel and I was some anonymous traveler passing by. Despite being close to the ride vehicles I still felt like I was looking in at a scene rather than him looking at me.

Hard to believe they would take the time to adjust this extremely minor detail (assuming this is the reason why) when there are other things in much more need of attention.
Well, I see your point, however, when you consider that they could have taken it out completely and not gone to the expense to move it, you have to wonder why? They could have completely removed it and most of the guests would never know it ever existed before. All of us, on these fan boards, have got to start realizing the we are not the only people that go there. The few of us that even know it was in the front to begin with do not amount to a hill of beans compared to the numbers that go through the attraction everyday.

The paperboy although a nice touch, really isn't at all important to the attraction. A bigger was the Rome scene where you could watch the "projections" of chariots in the distance moving across the landscape. And yet, surprise, they are gone and no one seemed to care. Other then the idea that it was to fix the detail, there is no other reasonable need to just move it. How about that great scene of the city scape reflected on the water, a scene that to me was great. Gone... if they didn't want it, it was gone. There was no reason to keep the paperboy AA if it was just a matter of money.
 

Figments Friend

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Regarding the paperboy on *Spaceship Earth*....

It was said at the time of the last major re-imagining of the Attraction in 2007 that the boy was moved because of Guest issues.
Apparently, he was a target for some not-so-respectful Guests since he was quite close to the ride track.
When the scenes throughout SSE were retooled and refreshed, it was decided to move him further back but still keep him in the scene.
He adds a nice feel to the setting, but to this day it is odd for me to see him back there hawking to a painted wall instead of the passersby.

Also, regarding the *garage* scene where a young man is experimenting with a early computer .....
It is not supposed to be any one person in particular, but a general figure to represent many of the people who helped develop and push the boundaries of the computing world.
So every Guest that passes through can interupt for themselves who they think he is.

:)
 

Castle Cake Apologist

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Part of his animation cycle has him looking over his shoulder and you can see his undamaged face. Not sure how that rumor was started.

He simply now faces the street that he's meant to be selling papers to. No sinister reasonings behind the change. It never technically made sense from a story standpoint for him to be selling papers to the ride path. We're not meant to be visible.
 

THEMEPARKPIONEER

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The effect stood out like a sour thumb but I miss the part where you would see the laser projection of a horse and carriage tearing thru the streets. I also understand why it had to go but it was pretty cool. As for the paper boy it seems more like he's horasing the same residents over and over again yelling at that same window, I say they should turn him around again.
 

epcotisbest

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Wow, it's like you read my mind :cool:
Here is what I got when I tried to read your mind :eek:

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draybook

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When did they turn him around? I'm only wondering because I could have sworn he was facing the riders during our first trips to WDW and we started going in 2008.
 

RonAnnArbor

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I've always assumed it was supposed to be a young Steve Jobs, but I suppose it could be anyone who was involved in the development in the early home computers etc?
It's very much Jobs - if you look at the hair styling and the beard -- and the actual computer he is working on which is the original Apple computer shape -- BUT they purposefully don't mention Jobs, nor Apple, nor Woz, nor anyone else, since that would involve having to pay a royalty. Keeping it generic lets those who know computers instantly recognize its Jobs, while not having to pay a penny to Apple.
 

TB4244

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Original Poster
It does look like Jobs, but you're right about the shape of the computer as it does look awfully like an early Apple computer. I guess thats the implication of it all without having to actually say and as you say pay royalties.
 

arko

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It's very much Jobs - if you look at the hair styling and the beard -- and the actual computer he is working on which is the original Apple computer shape -- BUT they purposefully don't mention Jobs, nor Apple, nor Woz, nor anyone else, since that would involve having to pay a royalty. Keeping it generic lets those who know computers instantly recognize its Jobs, while not having to pay a penny to Apple.

Actually all the original apple 1's were deisgned and built by Wozniak.
In 1976 Jobs did not have a beard or very long hair but Wozniak sure did

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punkabella

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Okay... but the guy in the scene with the missing chariots projected in the background... Take a look at how TINY the hands of the servant holding onto the horse's reigns are. Something is off with the depth perspective and the actual size of his hands. His little boy hands crack me up every time.. Hope they never change that anomaly.

Back on topic to the OP. Your question cracked me up, but I understand where it would come from. His voice has indeed changed pitches over the years. It used to be really annoying.. It's much more appropriate now.
 

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