lebeau
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Maybe once it was. They may even still say that. But realistically, their target demo is families with children.
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Story Book Circus?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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Maybe once it was. They may even still say that. But realistically, their target demo is families with children.
lebeau
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I get that you're boo hooing over a theme you don't like when what matters is execution.
What am I missing?
:shrug:
the M&G's for cinderella and aurora are not canned they are moving to the current location of snow white scary adventure and there will be even more princesses in snow white scary adventure. SBC will still have M&G (one of the 2 tents) they will still put. random characters in SBC like how the have it in animation area in DHS
Why both are more relevant than SBC and fit in more (theme wise) to fantasyland Forrest and be the same size as B&B or LM. and it wouldn't be forced in it would fit in easily
and if Dumbo's Circus land was proposed in the 1970s to be built alongside Discovery Bay why want it built? It was not a good enough idea.
"It was also attached to Holidayland, which had its own problems caused by the serving of alcohol." that is irrelevant because if disney truly wanted the circus he would have just taken away the alcohol
And the circus was really just a promotional tool for mickey mouse club
What are you talking about execution
The plan for SBC land( as of now) is below the standard of almost everything disney has done
Enchantâmes
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First off who are you to say Storybook Circus is under the "Disney standard"? Were you an Imagineer? Were you around when Walt as alive? I severly doubt it. No one cares, you don't even know what its going to look like when its finished and you are having a temper tantrum like a 5 year old. It may not be the theme you like but there are hundreds of other themed areas to choose from. Move on and just get over it.
I am not throwing a temper tantrum i am just expressing how i feel this land can be "plused"(with it's current plans)( and i do have faith that disney will throw something in that land to make it better) and yes I can say it is below standard because it is we the guest who have such high expectations for things disney produces and ultimately it is the guests disney needs to please.
and who are you to deny my freedom of speech and the flow of ideas from fingertips to keyboard
nemofinder22
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lazyboy97o
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The budget has been reallocated. There is no money to build an appropriate Wonderland or Neverland. To try and do so would require forcing it onto the existing infrastructure. Wonderland nor Neverland would make sense with big tents in the middle of them.
I think you are the first to say that the Discovery Bay project was not a good idea, because it too was not built.
Enchantâmes
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You have the right to express your "ideas" but all you're doing is whining and saying the same things over and over. So once again Get over it.
I am saying the same thing over and over again because nobody can read
Actually, I don't think reading is the problem. Rather, accepting your premise seems to be the real sticky wicket........
TRONorail10
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I can confirm the retention pond to the north. The B&B complex sits right next to the road that leads to the utilidors. Just beyond that is the new retention pond that was dug out to hold the displaced water from the area. It is linked by a series of runoff drains. At this point, there is no room left for expansion at the northernmost point of the park. Mermaid and B&B back up to the service road, which is up against a small ravine, which is cut through by the railroad, which is next to a drainage canal, which is next to the other service road that goes around the outside of the park. To expand anything beyond Storybook Circus towards Bay Lake would be difficult because there are large drainage ponds over on that side which are neccessary for the park. One can argue about land beyond Big Thunder/Tom Sawyer Island, but people keep overlooking logistics. Any northern expansion of Frontierland would have to involve alteration of the Rivers of America and possible removal of the Liberty Belle Riverboat, because there is no clear cut way to get to it. The new Haunted Mansion queue just killed some hope that a similar riverwalk type path might extend beyond HM. There are several other attractions hindering expansion of the Magic Kingdom: Tomorrowland Speedway - completely outdated, although still popular, its a huge chunk of land that could fit almost any idea imagineers can come up with. Jungle Cruise - classic Disney, however, it is getting to the point of feeling antique. combine the Jungle Cruise plot with Swiss Family Treehouse, once again, endless possibilities for Adventureland.I feel like a complete overhaul of Adventureland has been on the minds of imagineers for a long time, the theming isn't bad, but there is so much more that could be done for more cohesion in theming. Carousel of Progress - while i love this as much as Jungle Cruise, the way MK is headed, it just doesn't fit anymore. I think CoP would work nice in Future World at EPCOT, i had pitched the idea of putting it into the WoL Pavilion and maybe tweaking the show elements a bit like adding a pre-show or post show to the attraction to elaborate it more. That is all for now, time for work. Have a magical day everyone! :wave:
Crazy Harry
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We can read, we are just expressing ourselves by not agreeing with you.
Enchantâmes
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Go back to school kid. :wave:
lebeau
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Don't get me wrong, if you gave me a list of themes and asked me to organize them from my favorite to least favorite, "circus" would likely be in the bottom part of that list for me. I'm not expecting great things from this part of the expansion other than higher capacity for Dumbo and a less painful wait thanks to the interactive queue.
Having said that, I see absolutely no reason to cry about it when we know so little about it at this point beyond the name and the theme.
We all know sacrifices were made and this will probably be the least impressive part of the expansion. But griping at this point is just silly.
The OP's argument so far just boils down to not liking the theme. No matter how many ways he's tried to rephrase it or beef it up. That's just silly.
When we know more -a lot more - perhaps there will be valid criticisms to be made. But unless you've seen plans that are not available to the public, you don't know enough about the project to formulate a valid criticism at this point.
7 pages of "I don't like the circus" seems a little much. We get it. Come back when you've got something more substantial.
Having said that, I see absolutely no reason to cry about it when we know so little about it at this point beyond the name and the theme.
We all know sacrifices were made and this will probably be the least impressive part of the expansion. But griping at this point is just silly.
The OP's argument so far just boils down to not liking the theme. No matter how many ways he's tried to rephrase it or beef it up. That's just silly.
When we know more -a lot more - perhaps there will be valid criticisms to be made. But unless you've seen plans that are not available to the public, you don't know enough about the project to formulate a valid criticism at this point.
7 pages of "I don't like the circus" seems a little much. We get it. Come back when you've got something more substantial.
MIDisneyFamily
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I hope they don't add roaming clowns, clowns scare me !!
lebeau
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I agree. My expectations are relatively low and it could turn out to be Dinoramaish. But I'm not going to denounce until I see whether or not that is the case.
Also, the reason for my lowered expectations is that the budget has been allocated to another part of the project. It has nothing to do with the circus theme which is what the OP is focused on.
Ok more than half of the other people are agreeing with me. Bottom line the current plans and the circus theme sucks i would not mind the circus theme as much if they execute it with the similar plan as dumbos circus that was to go near discovery bay. that one seems more intricate in designing and looks like they took time to think the best way a circus theme could be executed.
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