MK Stitch's Great Escape Replacement— Don’t Hold Your Breath

marni1971

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marni1971

Park History nut
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Pardon the crudeness - I`ve been having new PC migration issues but here`s a size comparison someone asked about. Not taking into account structural issues like support beams and the like.

Moon - CV Size compare.jpg
 

GymLeaderPhil

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Costly, but they could squeeze a Alice in Wonderland sized dark ride utilizing the space above and below the current ground level of SGE.

A Laugh Floor replacement could also easily extend into the backstage outdoor foods building and parking lot behind it if they needed space.
 

peter11435

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Costly, but they could squeeze a Alice in Wonderland sized dark ride utilizing the space above and below the current ground level of SGE.

A Laugh Floor replacement could also easily extend into the backstage outdoor foods building and parking lot behind it if they needed space.
Buzz kind of limits the ability for laugh floor to expand into those spaces
 

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The SGE space easily could accommodate a small ALICE type dark ride.
Can a modern Disney pull off small dark rides? I'd assume there's both design and compliance challenges to overcome. Disney keeps going bigger with their darkrides for whatever reason. But if we're talking a smaller footprint; it does make me wonder about that "Black Box" concept that was discussed earlier.
 

Movielover

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Pardon the crudeness - I`ve been having new PC migration issues but here`s a size comparison someone asked about. Not taking into account structural issues like support beams and the like.

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Pardon my crudeness, I'm away from my Photoshop PC. I know it would not be this simple but this red square is roughly the same size as the entire Transformers facility at Universal. This is just fun to speculate about and again, putting a darkride in this spot would be very difficult, but possibly a different company would come up with a clever solution to squeeze in a ride, que, shop, and utilities...

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If you could somehow connect both spaces with a bridge, that would be plenty for a huge dark ride.

Depending on how the utilidor is laid out underneath they could also do a tunnel connection. Either way would lead to some interesting results.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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Pardon my crudeness, I'm away from my Photoshop PC. I know it would not be this simple but this red square is roughly the same size as the entire Transformers facility at Universal. This is just fun to speculate about and again, putting a darkride in this spot would be very difficult, but possibly a different company would come up with a clever solution to squeeze in a ride, que, shop, and utilities...

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Depending on how the utilidor is laid out underneath they could also do a tunnel connection. Either way would lead to some interesting results.
Transformers is two stories, that's how they make it fit.

Constraints for our armchair imagineering...

I've scoped this out earlier and got similar numbers:

SGE: 18.4k sqft / .42 acres
Snacks and shops: 9k sqft / .2 acres
Total: 27.4k sqft / .64 acres

Peter Pan: 13.5 sqft / .31 acres

So, yeah, you could have a repeat of one of the shortest and lowest capacity dark rides in that space. ;)

For comparison, Buzz is .55 acres.


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Pooh: .44 acres
Mermaid without the extensive queue: .55 acres

SGE is .42 acres.

Pan is .31 acres.

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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Correct, no reason why they could not do that here, or even put the second level down on the utilidor level. You could really play with that space to fit a ride in there. Will Disney do it? Most likely no, but its fun to armchair...
Sure, but that would mean a full demolition and rebuild.

I'm sure Disney would prefer to make something fit existing architecture.

Although... a full rebuild might wind up being cheaper than all the retrofit kludges.

Although... a full rebuild might set off a real estate tax increase...


Anyhoo, my archmair imagineering says to take over the entire building including Cosmic Rays for a nice, long dark ride. Then beef up and keep open Tomorrowland Terrace and add another QS by the restrooms. No one will mourn the passing of the stage.
 

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The obvious armchair solution is to rework Tomorrowland into an Arcadeland. It seemed to be going that way. You could do the Space-themed Pizza Planet (and arcade) anything WiR (though preferably something tied to Hero's Duty and the Cybug alien swarm concept and NOT Sugar Rush) and then of course TRON, another arcade game. Not sure if going Pixel adventure land vs World of Tomorrow land is a great idea but it seems the logical choice nowadays. Tomorrowland's always been a mixed bag anyway.
 
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marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
The obvious armchair solution is to rework Tomorrowland into an Arcadeland. It seemed to be going that way. You could do the Space-themed Pizza Planet (and arcade) anything WiR (though preferably something tied to Hero's Duty and the Cybug alien swarm concept and NOT Sugar Rush) and then of course Tron, another arcade game. Not sure if going Pixel adventure land vs World of Tomorrow land is a great idea but it seems the logical choice nowadays. Tomorrowland's always been a mixed bag anyway. something as good as it used to be.
 

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