MK Stitch's Great Escape Replacement— Don’t Hold Your Breath

[hauntology]

I agree. In ‘94, WDI opened one of the best TL areas with the MK’s Buck Rogers-style. The original “Future That Never Was” — with Space Mt, TTA, Astro Orbiter, the Timekeeper, and Alien Encounter — was one of the strongest concepts in WDI’s portfolio. In addition to those, the land had DreamFlight (soon to be Buzz), the Carousel of Progress, the Speedway, a jam-packed arcade, and a theater that regularly featured live stage entertainment! And in the 90s, Cosmic Ray’s frequently used its floor stage for small bands. This was one of the most complete lands Disney ever built in the States.

If only WDI had completed the Buck Rogers theming beyond the Astro Orbiter! Then we might still have the retro sci-fi beauty of TL ‘94.

I enjoy the classic aesthetic of old-school white TL, but IMO TL ‘94 was a more successful style.

I think what made 94 Tomorrowland so successful is the cohesive story/"sci fi city" ala Eddie Soto (was he the imagineer in charge?)

It was so thoroughly convincing to me as a kid; I would see the posters along the queue for The Timekeeper for conventions in space and wondered why I couldn't go.

 

[ChrisFL]

I know Eddie Sotto worked in the never-built Tokyo Sci-fi city concept, but not sure if he was involved in the '94 WDW one

 

[hauntology]

I know Eddie Sotto worked in the never-built Tokyo Sci-fi city concept, but not sure if he was involved in the '94 WDW one

I think the Sci-Fi City concept was loosely applied to MK Tomorrowland but maybe that's why I thought he had worked on it a bit. You know, because there were "convention centers" and such

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I liked the idea of the 1994 Tomorrowland as well. Would have been really cool if they could have made dreamflight into a “horizons light” showing how life is and all. Would be a bit more cartoon / fictional than the actual horizons.... but could have used that same idea.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I think what made 94 Tomorrowland so successful is the cohesive story/"sci fi city" ala Eddie Soto (was he the imagineer in charge?)

It was so thoroughly convincing to me as a kid; I would see the posters along the queue for The Timekeeper for conventions in space and wondered why I couldn't go.

I know Eddie Sotto worked in the never-built Tokyo Sci-fi city concept, but not sure if he was involved in the '94 WDW one

Paul Osterhout was the show producer for Tomorrowland 94.

 

[Kev1982]

The Sci Fi City or Jules Verne concepts would be a huge upgrade over whatever they are doing. If feels like 2 different visions being put together. Bright and colorful and Sterile w/ very little color.

Yes. Look at Discoveryland in Paris... Beautiful (Although the theme has dropped a bit)

 

[MrPromey]

IDK, the shortest/smallest of the omnimovers might be to big, but Peter Pan's ride system (overhead style) actually uses a smaller space than stitch does from the diagrams I have. It is almost the same size space as Pooh although shaped very differently.

One of the reasons for Pan's high wait times is relatively low capacity, though. I'm not sure something of that scale is something WDW would want to consider.

Although a longer - or better yet - separate loading/unloading ramps eqivelant to twice the length of the single Pan ramp would dramatically improve things.

It's an interesting idea!

 

[jt04]

50s/60s space age aesthetic is now iconic and timeless imo. And in no small way thanks to Walt and company.

This is a good choice for Tomorrowland.

And perhaps classic steampunk might get utilized elsewhere eventually.

 

[RSoxNo1]

One of the reasons for Pan's high wait times is relatively low capacity, though. I'm not sure something of that scale is something WDW would want to consider.

Although a longer - or better yet - separate loading/unloading ramps eqivelant to twice the length of the single Pan ramp would dramatically improve things.

It's an interesting idea!

Low capacity and location. I believe it's capacity is better than Winnie the Pooh, but not positive (I have around 1100-1200 for Pan and Pooh in the 700-800 range)

 

[MrPromey]

Low capacity and location. I believe it's capacity is better than Winnie the Pooh, but not positive (I have around 1100-1200 for Pan and Pooh in the 700-800 range)

Good point. I'm not sure post-Fastpass+ Disney would build pooh, either, though.

 

[Genie_naughty_whispers]

Stitch gets a bad wrap. Most underrated attraction

 

[Movielover]

Stitch gets a bad wrap. Most underrated attraction

That's because it was rated under all the other attractions...

 

[Bocabear]

Stitch gets a bad wrap. Most underrated attraction

because it is a terrible, poorly written show shoehorned into the place of a well designed, well written show...
Hard to dumb down something and then wonder why people don't love it...
Perhaps if they had purpose built an attraction for Stitch it would have been better received... This is 2 attractions now for stitch that Disney has just shoehorned him into an existing attraction...If they feel the IP is popular, I would think they would create something amazing for him...

 

[GoofGoof]

because it is a terrible, poorly written show shoehorned into the place of a well designed, well written show...
Hard to dumb down something and then wonder why people don't love it...
Perhaps if they had purpose built an attraction for Stitch it would have been better received... This is 2 attractions now for stitch that Disney has just shoehorned him into an existing attraction...If they feel the IP is popular, I would think they would create something amazing for him...

I don’t get the appeal of Stitch. IMHO just let him go. There’s plenty more stuff deserving a unique ride.

I actually loved Alien Encounter. It was a well done scare ride. The use of sounds and other physical effects in the pitch dark made it pretty damn scary even for full grown adults. For a small footprint the “ride” packed a unique punch, like a 4D movie on crack. Maybe they should just return it to the old AE version and add a bar somewhere. A true adults area in MK

 

[999th Happy Haunt]

I don’t get the appeal of Stitch. IMHO just let him go. There’s plenty more stuff deserving a unique ride.

I actually loved Alien Encounter. It was a well done scare ride. The use of sounds and other physical effects in the pitch dark made it pretty damn scary even for full grown adults. For a small footprint the “ride” packed a unique punch, like a 4D movie on crack. Maybe they should just return it to the old AE version and add a bar somewhere. A true adults area in MK

Watch the bar outperform Oga’s

 

[GoofGoof]

Watch the bar outperform Oga’s

It’s a lot harder to find drinks at MK. I bet it would be wildly popular and since kids were generally terrified of that ride they aren’t taking anything away. Plus they could sell regular overpriced drinks that people like.

 

[Hotamber]

It will most likely be the new line and load for the people mover. The current WDW is not going to pass up having a popular high capacity ride exit into an expanded giftshop. My guess would be that they add fastpass and a ride photo. If Monsters Inc has FP why not people mover. Plus outdoor food carts could take up the old outdoor people mover line. The current people mover line has been blocking the middle of the land when it's long

 

[Steph15251]

It will most likely be the new line and load for the people mover. The current WDW is not going to pass up having a popular high capacity ride exit into an expanded giftshop. My guess would be that they add fastpass and a ride photo. If Monsters Inc has FP why not people mover. Plus outdoor food carts could take up the old outdoor people mover line. The current people mover line has been blocking the middle of the land when it's long

For some reason I do not see them doing that.

 

[DetectiveDisney]

Ok, so we know stitch is dead. When is Disney gonna swoop in and tell us it's all gonna be good when there's a better attraction there. It feels like they're just leaving stuff abandoned left and right.

 

[The Pho]

Ok, so we know stitch is dead. When is Disney gonna swoop in and tell us it's all gonna be good when there's a better attraction there. It feels like they're just leaving stuff abandoned left and right.

Disney abandoning things is a tradition at this point.