James Alucobond
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There are IP attractions that have been around since the parks opened.Wondering what the life expectancy is for an IP attraction --John Q public seems to have limits attention span
There are IP attractions that have been around since the parks opened.Wondering what the life expectancy is for an IP attraction --John Q public seems to have limits attention span
Sort of … There are better parts and worse parts.Heck, the Disneyland version is worlds better than ours...
Sleeping Beauty castle called and it’s still around. The parks have been leveraging IPs since day one. They are vehicles for IP.Wondering what the life expectancy is for an IP attraction --John Q public seems to have limits attention span
Disneyland was always going to have a castle and its name waffled around. The name was secondary and it bore no resemblance to the film’s aesthetic. Sleeping Beauty was not driving the anything.Sleeping Beauty castle called and it’s still around. The parks have been leveraging IPs since day one. They are vehicles for IP.
In limited capacities. Most were confined to Fantasyland. Frontierland got Davey Crocket canoes and the Mike Fink Keel Boats; neither of which took us through a narrative of the TV show.There are IP attractions that have been around since the parks opened.
But the park wasn't designed to be exclusively IP-based attractions.Sleeping Beauty castle called and it’s still around. The parks have been leveraging IPs since day one. They are vehicles for IP.
The direction for the park until Eisner was a vehicle to give guests unique experiences to share with their family. Be it exploring exotic jungles or voyaging to the moon, or riding a mule through the wild west.Sleeping Beauty castle called and it’s still around. The parks have been leveraging IPs since day one. They are vehicles for IP.
Exactly. Nor even predominantly IP.But the park wasn't designed to be exclusively IP-based attractions.
This erosion is not exclusively the result of a lack of care or understanding, even if it sometimes is. In Magic Kingdom in particular, some of the missions were offloaded to other parks that executed the concept far better. EPCOT is/was a better World’s Fair than Tomorrowland, and World Showcase is a better vehicle for presenting the history of not just the United States but many other countries as well. Animal Kingdom is a better zoo. It makes sense for them to shift more toward a “fantasy tomorrow” or a “fantastical adventure” than to stick with something that now looks diminished and redundant.The original 5 lands were Main Street USA (living history site in the style of Henry Ford's creation), Adventureland (zoo), Frontierland (national park), Fantasyland (amusement park/gardens), and Tomorrowland (world's fair). These lands each had a specific purpose within the Disneyland concept.
Overtime, the identity of each of the lands has eroded. This is true for both the Magic Kingdom and Disneyland. It's difficult to tell the difference between each land besides surface level scenery. Some of that was the natural adaption to the realities of operating a theme park (animals in Adventureland would prove infeasible). But a great deal of it has been related to a lack of care and poor understanding of Disneyland or Magic Kingdom.
The fact that this is happening at Disneylands around the world indicates that they really don't know what they're doing, or just don't care. There's no Epcot next to Disneyland, and the same process has occurred there. And I think even if that was the justification, it's not a good one. Could Tomorrowland exist alongside Epcot? Absolutely. They did for many years, so we know it's not an impossibility or that there is a dearth of content. Moreover, the parks that might have replaced those lands themselves are being eroded. Epcot has become meaningless and Disney's Animal Kingdom is becoming meaningless.This erosion is not exclusively the result of a lack of care or understanding, even if it sometimes is. In Magic Kingdom in particular, some of the missions were offloaded to other parks that executed the concept far better. EPCOT is/was a better World’s Fair than Tomorrowland, and World Showcase is a better vehicle for presenting the history of not just the United States but many other countries as well. Animal Kingdom is a better zoo. It makes sense for them to shift more toward a “fantasy tomorrow” or a “fantastical adventure” than to stick with something that now looks diminished and redundant.
Don't forget his claim that Expedition Everest was just "some nondescript coaster" because it wasn't based on an IP.He did. It was during an interview on site rather than at a podium or anything like that. He said that they were no longer going to be making attractions not tied to their current film library. That Disney had done quite a lot to build up its library and that other theme parks would kill for access to these beloved stories and characters so it would be foolish to not capitalize on that.
And when we say quality, we mean cartoon starbursts.From Snow White [...] Disney found great success with focusing on the art of creating a quality theme park attraction first.
Nothing wrong with that. The cartoon starbursts in Riger Rabbit and Mr Toad work well..And when we say quality, we mean cartoon starbursts.
DL’s is not better. The Neverland scene looks like it was squeezed onto a 4x8 sheet of plywood. WDW’s is more detailed and much larger. A few SFX that don’t work half the time don’t overcome the smaller sets.I would love to see a version of Mr Toad and Peter Pan redone with 21st century tech... The Shanghai Peter Pan is worlds better than WDWs version... Heck, the Disneyland version is worlds better than ours...
I guess the times I was there, the effects were all working. Yes our neverland island is bigger...DL’s is not better. The Neverland scene looks like it was squeezed onto a 4x8 sheet of plywood. WDW’s is more detailed and much larger. A few SFX that don’t work half the time don’t overcome the smaller sets.
I thought you meant WDW Snow White. The jagged-edged cartoon starbursts at the end of the 1971 version are a blessing and reminiscent of Wile E Coyote cartoons. You also forgot to mention cartoon starbursts are in the Buzz Lightyear rides.Nothing wrong with that. The cartoon starbursts in Riger Rabbit and Mr Toad work well..
Not the worst idea for the space. Do you have a link to the post?Somebody on Reddit claimed that they might be putting an Edna Mode show in the Stitch building. Anyone know if there's any truth to that?
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