Invero
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Re: You are ahead of me again.
Yeah, the lifts are a pain in the butt... the ramps are definetly much easier. Now if only they worked like they should... There's a flaw in the Novabus. For some reason, some times we will go and Tilt the bus, and then extend out the ramp. Sometimes, the bus will "un-tilt" itself while we're trying to board the guest, thus causing a mighty steep ramp. Not a safe situation if it occurs while the guest is on the ramp. This is why now we must require all guests in electric chairs to board in reverse.
Some busses use flip out ramps versus extended ones. I think this is probably a bit better (although not as flashy) because they're more reliable. Also, most transit busses these days have the ramp or lift located in the front, with the two flippy seats right behind each front wheelwell. Transit agencies do this because operators really can't leave the fare box area. Disney decided to keep it in the rear, for ease of entry and exit to those in the chair.
As for capacity... 75% of the time, it's the Operator who decides the seating layout. The LFS has a seating capacity from 35-39 seats. Disney chose the 35, because it allows for more standees. The New Flyer Invero, which is also a low floor bus, has seating for 44. The main difference is that the Invero has a low front floor, but the rear section does have a stair to get up to it. This allows the engine to be in its normal position, instead of on the side, in the passenger compartment area, as in the LFS.
(For comparison, our average RTS has 45 seats)
One thing I definetly do love about the Nova's is the large destination sign. We're currently retrofitting our RTS busses with a smaller version of the sign. (the RTS has a smaller space for it) They are highly visible during the day and night, allow for multiple lines of text, very flexible. (And yet, I still get asked, "Where do you go??" READ THE SIGN!! lol)
Originally posted by Talsonic
As always, you are right on the mark. As you know the "old" buses had those "elevator" ramps that lifted wheelchairs into the bus. The "new" LFS buses tilt the entire bus to the right and "extend" a ramp to the curb. Having visited with folks confinded to a wheelchair, I like the LFS buses better. Sorry, if I got the terminolgy wrong. However, the "old" buses (RTS II) have more seating capacity.
Yeah, the lifts are a pain in the butt... the ramps are definetly much easier. Now if only they worked like they should... There's a flaw in the Novabus. For some reason, some times we will go and Tilt the bus, and then extend out the ramp. Sometimes, the bus will "un-tilt" itself while we're trying to board the guest, thus causing a mighty steep ramp. Not a safe situation if it occurs while the guest is on the ramp. This is why now we must require all guests in electric chairs to board in reverse.
Some busses use flip out ramps versus extended ones. I think this is probably a bit better (although not as flashy) because they're more reliable. Also, most transit busses these days have the ramp or lift located in the front, with the two flippy seats right behind each front wheelwell. Transit agencies do this because operators really can't leave the fare box area. Disney decided to keep it in the rear, for ease of entry and exit to those in the chair.
As for capacity... 75% of the time, it's the Operator who decides the seating layout. The LFS has a seating capacity from 35-39 seats. Disney chose the 35, because it allows for more standees. The New Flyer Invero, which is also a low floor bus, has seating for 44. The main difference is that the Invero has a low front floor, but the rear section does have a stair to get up to it. This allows the engine to be in its normal position, instead of on the side, in the passenger compartment area, as in the LFS.
(For comparison, our average RTS has 45 seats)
One thing I definetly do love about the Nova's is the large destination sign. We're currently retrofitting our RTS busses with a smaller version of the sign. (the RTS has a smaller space for it) They are highly visible during the day and night, allow for multiple lines of text, very flexible. (And yet, I still get asked, "Where do you go??" READ THE SIGN!! lol)