Starbucks at WDW

Dragonrider1227

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That's part of the problem here, I can get a frappacino at any airport in the known universe and 10,000 other locations. I want something SPECIAL that I can only get at Disney otherwise why go, I'm a voracious consumer of Starbucks products so I'm glad I can get them at Disney instead of the Nescafe horse p---.

BUT it could have been so much better, Bring Starbucks in and have them create drinks which are ONLY available at Disney, Keep the unique Disney food items. Now that's a reason to travel TO WDW rather than just go to the Starbucks down the street.

It's just another example of the culture of abandonment and taking the easy way out and the ongoing Mall-ification of the Disney parks.
While I'm all for the special stuff I can only get at Disney, does does a brand name coffee really hurt that? I mean, without it, it's still just regular coffee. Unless they're sprinkling pixie dust in it, it's just coffee in general which isn't something special. So... I'm not understanding the argument here.
Have we forgotten how on Walt's watch there was a pirate ship that sold Chicken of the Sea products? Was there anyone complaining "I can get Chicken of the Sea food anywhere. I want something only at Disney" back then too?
 

The Empress Lilly

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While I'm all for the special stuff I can only get at Disney, does does a brand name coffee really hurt that? I mean, without it, it's still just regular coffee. Unless they're sprinkling pixie dust in it, it's just coffee in general which isn't something special. So... I'm not understanding the argument here.
Have we forgotten how on Walt's watch there was a pirate ship that sold Chicken of the Sea products? Was there anyone complaining "I can get Chicken of the Sea food anywhere. I want something only at Disney" back then too?
It was a pirate ship that sold Chicken of the Sea food. Instead of an outside restaurant chain opening up a licensed store in Fantasyland.

Likewise, nobody complained about a turn of the century bakery serving Nescafé drinks. But we do protest closing that for a licensed franchise, with some period decoration.

The difference is theme, and product vs place. Nescafé and Joffrey's are brands, not places in the modern everyday world.
 

King Panda 77

Thank you sir. You were an inspiration.
Premium Member
It was a pirate ship that sold Chicken of the Sea food. Instead of an outside restaurant chain opening up a licensed store in Fantasyland.

Likewise, nobody complained about a turn of the century bakery serving Nescafé drinks. But we do protest closing that for a licensed franchise, with some period decoration.

The difference is theme, and product vs place. Nescafé and Joffrey's are brands, not places in the modern everyday world.
It will all be fine one the AT-AT is in place ;)
 

The Empress Lilly

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It will all be fine one the AT-AT is in place ;)
Get our snowspeeders ready, we're going to bring down these Imperialist invaders!

starbucks-at-at.jpeg
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
While I'm all for the special stuff I can only get at Disney, does does a brand name coffee really hurt that? I mean, without it, it's still just regular coffee. Unless they're sprinkling pixie dust in it, it's just coffee in general which isn't something special. So... I'm not understanding the argument here.
Have we forgotten how on Walt's watch there was a pirate ship that sold Chicken of the Sea products? Was there anyone complaining "I can get Chicken of the Sea food anywhere. I want something only at Disney" back then too?

As @The Empress Lilly Notes it was a PIRATE SHIP sponsored by 'Chicken of Sea', There were also stores sponsored by Carnation 'The Creamery' and Sunkist which sold Dairy and Orange treats which were UNIQUE to Disneyland, It was not a Howard Johnsons plunked down in the middle of Main St with a veneer of period decor. Theme and place were paramount.
 

King Panda 77

Thank you sir. You were an inspiration.
Premium Member
As @The Empress Lilly Notes it was a PIRATE SHIP sponsored by 'Chicken of Sea', There were also stores sponsored by Carnation 'The Creamery' and Sunkist which sold Dairy and Orange treats which were UNIQUE to Disneyland, It was not a Howard Johnsons plunked down in the middle of Main St with a veneer of period decor. Theme and place were paramount.
Now Comedy is Paramount
 

Dragonrider1227

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It was a pirate ship that sold Chicken of the Sea food. Instead of an outside restaurant chain opening up a licensed store in Fantasyland.

Likewise, nobody complained about a turn of the century bakery serving Nescafé drinks. But we do protest closing that for a licensed franchise, with some period decoration.

The difference is theme, and product vs place. Nescafé and Joffrey's are brands, not places in the modern everyday world.
So, you'd feel better if it was a Starbucks made to look like a turn of the century building? I doubt it. You'd all still be complaining that a brand name you can get anywhere else is being sold in Disney. Just like you did with the McDonalds Fry Cart that they designed specifically to look like it belonged in Frontierland.
Frankly, I didn't even know there WAS a bakery until all this. I think I walked by it, smelled it, but never thought to actually go in. I get the feeling a lot of people did this. Hence why it probably wasn't selling and Disney felt the need to put something else in there and let's face it, Starbucks is a familiar and selling brand. Familiarity is a big thing now.
There are a lot of unique elements I come to Disney for. For the most part, food is not one of them. (Turkey Legs and resort pizza an exception) So while a little jarring to the theme, I could care less if there's a Starbucks in Main Street.
 
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AswaySuller

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I don't particularly like Starbucks in the parks.. I hated the McDonald's fries at AK
But Why does this get more hate than the McDonald's stand or even a dole whips stand?
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
So, you'd feel better if it was a Starbucks made to look like a turn of the century building? I doubt it. You'd all still be complaining that a brand name you can get anywhere else is being sold in Disney. Just like you did with the McDonalds Fry Cart that they designed specifically to look like it belonged in Frontierland.
Frankly, I didn't even know there WAS a bakery until all this. I think I walked by it, smelled it, but never thought to actually go in. I get the feeling a lot of people did this. Hence why it probably wasn't selling and Disney felt the need to put something else in there and let's face it, Starbucks is a familiar and selling brand. Familiarity is a big thing now.
There are a lot of unique elements I come to Disney for. For the most part, food is not one of them. (Turkey Legs and resort pizza an exception) So while a little jarring to the theme, I could care less if there's a Starbucks in Main Street.

I go to Disney to be entertained and check out of reality for a while, If there is no difference between Disney and the local mall why should I bother going to Disney at all

Big difference between 'Sponsored By' and perhaps selling some branded goods inside and simply plopping a chain store in mall-style, If you look at the Ice cream parlor you will see 'Sponsored By Edy's But its still a nicely themed turn of the century ice cream parlor which just happens to serve Edy's Ice Cream, It's not a BASKIN-ROBBINS with a few turn of the century fixtures.
 

ToyStorygirl

Active Member
Is nobody looking at it from Starbucks point of view? Why should they change their decor to suit Disney? They didn't in Universal and nobody seemed to care. I know some would argue Universal isn't the same thing but you still walk into another world when you go in there. I didn't walk around thinking I was on a film set only to be devastated by the sight of Starbucks making me realise I'm not really a Hollywood extra.
 

Dragonrider1227

Well-Known Member
I go to Disney to be entertained and check out of reality for a while, If there is no difference between Disney and the local mall why should I bother going to Disney at all

Big difference between 'Sponsored By' and perhaps selling some branded goods inside and simply plopping a chain store in mall-style, If you look at the Ice cream parlor you will see 'Sponsored By Edy's But its still a nicely themed turn of the century ice cream parlor which just happens to serve Edy's Ice Cream, It's not a BASKIN-ROBBINS with a few turn of the century fixtures.
Sorry, I feel there would be complaining regardless of how well it was themed into the area and from the footage I've seen, I think they themed it well.
Maybe it's just because I was never interested in this bakery. I don't even know what was in it. So maybe it's simply because I lack the personal connection with this particular part of Disney World :/
 

Bairstow

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The concern is that if Disney finds it's lucrative to replace their homegrown bakery shop with a Starbucks, what's to stop them from replacing Cosmic Ray's with a Pizza Hut? Pecos Bills with a Taco Bell?
When you're willing to compromise your themed space with external, homogenous commercial spaces it stands to reason you may not know where to draw the line.
 
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