Starbucks at WDW

[fireworksandfairytales]

I personally love Starbucks being there. Drinking a pumpkin spice latte while walking down Main Street is pretty magical to me

 

[Goofyernmost]

Not somewhat - COMPLETELY, WDW is built around suspension of belief, And the Starbucks took away the seating and unique food items at the Bakery

Don't want to get picky but it is built around the suspension of disbelief. Therefore if you don't believe that Starbucks belongs on Main Street, then kick into the suspension of that disbelief and accept that everything is just the way it should be no matter how it seemed to you before. I also don't wish to be a total PITA but, unique food items??? What was unique. Can't be Cinnamon Rolls because I just had one today at my local mall. Cookie's? No can't be that! No seating is, I'm sure Disney's idea, just like the loss of benches. If you're sitting you ain't buying!

 

[Goofyernmost]

No longer available at Disney, Now we have Starbucks prefrozen mushy baked goods of indeterminate age and freshness

http://sf.eater.com/archives/2013/04/11/la_boulange_rolling_out_to_starbucks_next_week.php

Here's one thing you can take to the bank...if Apple whatevers were big sellers they would still be available, at least someplace. If they are throwing away more then the sell...well, Business 101 applies.

If you don't think some of the "fresh baked" goods at the Bakery previously were not frozen before you saw them then your world must have pink skies. If the baked goods that are currently at Starbucks locations are still there over time, you can bet the family farm on the fact that they are selling well and are quite fresh.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Sounds better to me "Sounds Dangerous" is usually closed, how about that spot.

Keep up...Sounds Dangerous is totally, completely and most assuredly dead closed. Has been for at least a year now. Gotta love those boarded up, empty, spider growing, locked attractions that we Guests are not good enough for Disney to invest in. Until it all looks like downtown Detroit does, or at least did, they will not be happy.

 

[ford91exploder]

Here's one thing you can take to the bank...if Apple whatevers were big sellers they would still be available, at least someplace. If they are throwing away more then the sell...well, Business 101 applies.

If you don't think some of the "fresh baked" goods at the Bakery previously were not frozen before you saw them then your world must have pink skies. If the baked goods that are currently at Starbucks locations are still there over time, you can bet the family farm on the fact that they are selling well and are quite fresh.

You mean the cinnamon rolls which nobody at WDW liked, Now replaced by the stale nasty ones at Gaston's

If Disney had simply done 'Coffee by Starbucks' and perhaps gone as far as add a Barista station while leaving the bakery alone - it would have been a win for everyone.

 

[sxeensweet]

The bakery wasn't the rose-tinted amazingness that everyone seems to think it was. It was an average quick service location serving the same plastic cr*p that can be bought at quick service locations all over WDW.

Personally I don't like Starbuck as I don't drink anything they offer (at least the WDW ones sell Coke products) but all this reminiscing about the "amazing" bakery needs to stop.

Now if they replaced Jiko with a Denny's then I'd really be annoyed.......


(ps. I never log in to this forum but have been lurking for years, I had to log in to chip in here.
Sorry for the ranting!)

Actually if hey served all the same "plastic crap" all over the rest of the park them why are so many of us upset????? Hmmmn maybe it could be that they don't have many of the items we enjoyed ANYWHERE else on property! If they did we would not be upset!!! Duh! Lol. No they just sell Starbucks "plastic crap" pastries! Lol Cheers!

 

[ford91exploder]

Actually if hey served all the same "plastic crap" all over the rest of the park them why are so many of us upset????? Hmmmn maybe it could be that they don't have many of the items we enjoyed ANYWHERE else on property! If they did we would not be upset!!! Duh! Lol. No they just sell Starbucks "plastic crap" pastries! Lol Cheers!

Exactly, If the treats in the Bakery had moved to the Ice Cream shop I don't think anyone would care or bother to post about it. But they did not so ...

 

[Goofyernmost]

You mean the cinnamon rolls which nobody at WDW liked, Now replaced by the stale nasty ones at Gaston's

If Disney had simply done 'Coffee by Starbucks' and perhaps gone as far as add a Barista station while leaving the bakery alone - it would have been a win for everyone.

Reality check, If the cinnamon rolls at Gaston's are stale and nasty, then you are lucky that they took them out of the Bakery. It's all the same company, nothing is actually made from scratch at the Bakery. It was made at the central Bakery backstage and shipped to "The Bakery". If the decision had been made to keep them in the MS Bakery, the ones at Gaston's would now be in the Bakery on MS.

In all likelihood it is just one other example that WDW guests services are continuing to decline from where they were for years. However, blaming that on Starbucks or as far as that goes, fabricating stories of how Starbucks has ruined the "magic" for everyone, please take a step back and understand where that decision came from. Many people like Starbucks and doesn't affect their experience at all, so the problem lies within each individual and what they use as a basis of enjoyment. Couple that with 1970's expectations to the world of 2013 and you have yourself a bucket full of frustration. Times and things change, we cannot stop time from continuing on so we have to adjust our expectations to make sure that we get the most out of our experiences. Time does not back up, why continuously attempt to force that to happen.

 

[ford91exploder]

Reality check, If the cinnamon rolls at Gaston's are stale and nasty, then you are lucky that they took them out of the Bakery. It's all the same company, nothing is actually made from scratch at the Bakery. It was made at the central Bakery backstage and shipped to "The Bakery". If the decision had been made to keep them in the MS Bakery, the ones at Gaston's would now be in the Bakery on MS.

In all likelihood it is just one other example that WDW guests services are continuing to decline from where they were for years. However, blaming that on Starbucks or as far as that goes, fabricating stories of how Starbucks has ruined the "magic" for everyone, please take a step back and understand where that decision came from. Many people like Starbucks and doesn't affect their experience at all, so the problem lies within each individual and what they use as a basis of enjoyment. Couple that with 1970's expectations to the world of 2013 and you have yourself a bucket full of frustration. Times and things change, we cannot stop time from continuing on so we have to adjust our expectations to make sure that we get the most out of our experiences. Time does not back up, why continuously attempt to force that to happen.

What a defeatist attitude, Dude the fail is too strong we just need to roll over and submit to the fail

There is NO REASON TO ACCEPT POOR QUALITY, One of the reasons Tokyo is considered the best park is they are never satisfied with good enough. They have a concept called Kaizen where they understand everything can and SHOULD be made better than it is.

I work for a company which applies this principle, Nothing is sacred, we don't keep stuff because it's 'good enough' and we are always improving ourselves and our product. Strangely enough customers love us and prefer our products to far larger vendors.

 

[sxeensweet]

Reality check, If the cinnamon rolls at Gaston's are stale and nasty, then you are lucky that they took them out of the Bakery. It's all the same company, nothing is actually made from scratch at the Bakery. It was made at the central Bakery backstage and shipped to "The Bakery". If the decision had been made to keep them in the MS Bakery, the ones at Gaston's would now be in the Bakery on MS.

In all likelihood it is just one other example that WDW guests services are continuing to decline from where they were for years. However, blaming that on Starbucks or as far as that goes, fabricating stories of how Starbucks has ruined the "magic" for everyone, please take a step back and understand where that decision came from. Many people like Starbucks and doesn't affect their experience at all, so the problem lies within each individual and what they use as a basis of enjoyment. Couple that with 1970's expectations to the world of 2013 and you have yourself a bucket full of frustration. Times and things change, we cannot stop time from continuing on so we have to adjust our expectations to make sure that we get the most out of our experiences. Time does not back up, why continuously attempt to force that to happen.

By the way I am calm just like the last post you told me to calm down and I was fine but I must say this Lol...
PLAIN AND SIMPLE THEY ARE NOT THE SAME FOR THE LAST TIME!!!! Lol. Also we are not blaming Starbucks that would be just silly! It's the Disney company that made the final decision.
Us that HAVE had both clearly notice the obvious big differences in the 2 after enjoying the other far superior ones for years!! No white icing (some brownish maple icing), not served hot, and are stale and dry! Same company or not, the product now at Gaston's is very much different!!! You know some companies do make more than one product. LOL!! Also that's not the only item we all miss.. We miss many other items they used to serve!

 

[Goofyernmost]

What a defeatist attitude, Dude the fail is too strong we just need to roll over and submit to the fail

There is NO REASON TO ACCEPT POOR QUALITY, One of the reasons Tokyo is considered the best park is they are never satisfied with good enough. They have a concept called Kaizen where they understand everything can and SHOULD be made better than it is.

I work for a company which applies this principle, Nothing is sacred, we don't keep stuff because it's 'good enough' and we are always improving ourselves and our product. Strangely enough customers love us and prefer our products to far larger vendors.

Neither you or I have any control over what Disney does. They aren't part of a democracy that we vote on. They are a private (publicly owned) company. They do not answer to us directly. We can fight it only one way and that is with our wallets. If we don't go there and spend our money, they will have to change. The problem is that we are are not going to be able to change Disney without the cooperation of many others. I don't see that happening.

You can talk about Tokyo all you want, this is a completely different culture and a completely different mindset of the folks that own and operate the park. Disney doesn't control how they spend their money or what they set for standards unless it falls below what the folks in California set. And they don't have to worry about that at all. I'm not satisfied with "good enough" but honestly what possible power do you honestly think we really have. Course I'm defeatist about it. I have to be, I (and you) have absolutely no choice in it, UNLESS, they start to lose a significant amount of business. Then and only then will they give a toot about what we think. I have a choice, I can stay away from a place that I think is great in 85% of everything that I enjoy or not be able to enjoy that 85% because I am overly concerned about 15% of it. I can do that, I like most others choose not too.

 

[Goofyernmost]

By the way I am calm just like the last post you told me to calm down and I was fine but I must say this Lol...
PLAIN AND SIMPLE THEY ARE NOT THE SAME FOR THE LAST TIME!!!! Lol. Also we are not blaming Starbucks that would be just silly! It's the Disney company that made the final decision.
Us that HAVE had both clearly notice the obvious big differences in the 2 after enjoying the other far superior ones for years!! No white icing (some brownish maple icing), not served hot, and are stale and dry! Same company or not, the product now at Gaston's is very much different!!! You know some companies do make more than one product. LOL!! Also that's not the only item we all miss.. We miss many other items they used to serve!

I'm not sure what you are saying "PLAIN AND SIMPLE THEY ARE NOT THE SAME FOR THE LAST TIME" about. If it's the Cinnamon Rolls, I said they weren't the same, totally admitted it, based on what everyone said, I never had one so I cannot vouch for it one way or the other. What I am telling you is that just because they are different at Gaston's now doesn't mean they would not be the same Gaston Roll if they were still in "MS Bakery". They may have just decided to lower the quality of it and it didn't matter where they were located, it was either going to be at Gaston's or The Bakery. I doubt that they would have two different recipes for the product only about 500 ft apart from each other. Also it is of little significance since it is what it is. One might be able to lobby Disney to have the same type of Cinnamon Roll at Gaston's that they used to have at MS Bakery, but that is the only thing that has a chance of happening in my humble opinion.

 

[sxeensweet]

I'm not sure what you are saying "PLAIN AND SIMPLE THEY ARE NOT THE SAME FOR THE LAST TIME" about. If it's the Cinnamon Rolls, I said they weren't the same, totally admitted it, based on what everyone said, I never had one so I cannot vouch for it one way or the other. What I am telling you is that just because they are different at Gaston's now doesn't mean they would not be the same Gaston Roll if they were still in "MS Bakery". They may have just decided to lower the quality of it and it didn't matter where they were located, it was either going to be at Gaston's or The Bakery. I doubt that they would have two different recipes for the product only about 500 ft apart from each other. Also it is of little significance since it is what it is. One might be able to lobby Disney to have the same type of Cinnamon Roll at Gaston's that they used to have at MS Bakery, but that is the only thing that has a chance of happening in my humble opinion.

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First I do respect your opinions please don't feel I do not, and Yes I know you said they were not the same I mostly was saying that in response to your post for the ones that may think that's what you are saying as some few people keep saying they are the same and to get over it in general. Lol. Sorry to use your post for that.
Also most of us are not unhappy as a whole with our Disney experience and will not let the 15% we are not to cause us to not enjoy our future trips. We are venting as what these boards are made for our upsets or disaapintments, triumphs, excitement, etc. I say wayyy more good things about Disney than negative things. Why else would I keep going if I or anyone was so unhappy about things. And Yes we also made the decision to not visit any Starbucks on property while we are there esp the one in MK. That is our personal stand to show our unhappiness. I am not opposed to change as most on here are not opposed to it either, but we can mourn and complain forever if we like on here if we dislike SOME changes.

 

[ford91exploder]

Neither you or I have any control over what Disney does. They aren't part of a democracy that we vote on. They are a private (publicly owned) company. They do not answer to us directly. We can fight it only one way and that is with our wallets. If we don't go there and spend our money, they will have to change. The problem is that we are are not going to be able to change Disney without the cooperation of many others. I don't see that happening.

You can talk about Tokyo all you want, this is a completely different culture and a completely different mindset of the folks that own and operate the park. Disney doesn't control how they spend their money or what they set for standards unless it falls below what the folks in California set. And they don't have to worry about that at all. I'm not satisfied with "good enough" but honestly what possible power do you honestly think we really have. Course I'm defeatist about it. I have to be, I (and you) have absolutely no choice in it, UNLESS, they start to lose a significant amount of business. Then and only then will they give a toot about what we think. I have a choice, I can stay away from a place that I think is great in 85% of everything that I enjoy or not be able to enjoy that 85% because I am overly concerned about 15% of it. I can do that, I like most others choose not too.

It's because people like you GIVE UP Disney and other organizations feel empowered to cheapen their services, If people wrote letters, filed complaints and filled social media with where Disney falls short. Why you ask there is NOTHING that the modern American corporation fears more than BAD PRESS. If you want change you have to start feeding them BAD PRESS and more BAD PRESS until they don't want to look at the newspaper or TV news.

 

[Goofyernmost]

It's because people like you GIVE UP Disney and other organizations feel empowered to cheapen their services, If people wrote letters, filed complaints and filled social media with where Disney falls short. Why you ask there is NOTHING that the modern American corporation fears more than BAD PRESS. If you want change you have to start feeding them BAD PRESS and more BAD PRESS until they don't want to look at the newspaper or TV news.

Isn't this part of social media?

 

[ford91exploder]

Isn't this part of social media?

It is and you might have noticed that I don't give Disney a break, I do occasionally note how their blunders could have been a win if they ever cured their rectal-cranial inversion problem

 

[FettFan]

"Fountain View Ice Cream -- Now Serving Starbucks Coffee". I could have gotten behind that. Oh well now I just hike over to Les Artisans to get my fix.

 

[Goofyernmost]

It is and you might have noticed that I don't give Disney a break, I do occasionally note how their blunders could have been a win if they ever cured their rectal-cranial inversion problem

If you check out my record, I have been very vocal about Disney's current priorities, just different ones. I would rather see 1000 Starbucks then one single closed show building. That is their demise, IMHO! Any number of light bulbs out to one CM with a vacant look on their face skillfully avoiding eye contact. It isn't what you see or what is visible, it's what you feel. I realize that since I don't eat those bakery items or drink coffee, that would be the reason that I don't see any urgency to that.

 

[Laura Ellen]

As a barista and avid coffee drinker i am THRILLED that WDW has ACTUAL COFFEE now!
I'm sorry but that black tar they serve at WDW most of the time IS NOT COFFEE. I literally will search every inch of a park to find a coffee place that actually makes coffee. I am over the moon!

 

[C&D]

As a barista and avid coffee drinker i am THRILLED that WDW has ACTUAL COFFEE now!
I'm sorry but that black tar they serve at WDW most of the time IS NOT COFFEE. I literally will search every inch of a park to find a coffee place that actually makes coffee. I am over the moon!

Your commentary is appreciated (and I fully respect your view) however the shop is called the "Bakery", not the 'Coffee Shop'; what my (and some others are commenting on) is the fact that Disney threw out the "baby with the bath water". Starbucks coffee, fine, but I sure wanted to keep the present pastries. And as an example of freshness, those turnovers (apple/cheery) were never frozen (if you know a good turnover) a frozen puffed pastry wilts (and that's being kind as a description).