Starbucks among other new vendors at Disney

BaconPancakes

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They also offer something you can ONLY get at that one place.

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I'll be picking one of those babies up in about 70 or so days!
 

Matt_Black

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Coffee is supposed to taste terrible. It's a dark bitter drink, which is why it's so popular in America- it matches our cynical attitude. It's not doing it's job unless you go "Hubb-arg-wabble" while shaking your head really quick after each sip.
 

BaconPancakes

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Coffee is supposed to taste terrible. It's a dark bitter drink, which is why it's so popular in America- it matches our cynical attitude. It's not doing it's job unless you go "Hubb-arg-wabble" while shaking your head really quick after each sip.
Except not, it's delicious...
 

HolleBolleGijs

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I get your sarcasm, but when it comes to their morning coffee, yes, many people do want the thing they can easily get anywhere else.

Totally agree. I generally don't like plain coffee, but if I'm at EMH until 3AM, I want to be able to get my Caramel Macchiato right after rope drop the next morning.

Maybe the baked goods aren't as high quality as MSB. I don't know; I honestly can't remember ever visiting MSB. But they taste pretty darn good, and there are plenty of other places to get "unique" food items at the parks.
 

Goofyernmost

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Coffee is supposed to taste terrible. It's a dark bitter drink, which is why it's so popular in America- it matches our cynical attitude. It's not doing it's job unless you go "Hubb-arg-wabble" while shaking your head really quick after each sip.
Except not, it's delicious...

And there you have the crux of the discussion. Differences of opinion concerning coffee, which is awful no matter who makes it, and rolls that are slightly different then what we were used too. It amazes me that the discussion continues. Those that like one or the other will not be swayed and this could go on for years.

If you like coffee (don't see how, but) then you will approve of the Faux Bakery changing over to Starbucks. If you don't care about the coffee but loved the old recipe more then the new, then you are going to be against it. Since Disney, not Starbucks, made the decision to use a different recipe for the rolls, isn't it possible that even if Starbucks didn't go in they might very well have changed the rolls anyway? Bottom lines, it isn't there anymore! There is nothing new about Disney having outside vendors in the parks and it has been that way since day one of Disneyland!

What is the purpose of the discussion at all? What is done is done and what individuals like and dislike is already established. Why even get angry about it. One can get Starbucks on practically every street corner in America and there are dozens of places that make Cinnamon Rolls as good as, if not better then, the ones that were at MSB, everywhere.

Even Mickey Bars are nothing more then Dove Bars with ears. Nothing that you can buy at Disney is not available on the outside, perhaps in different shapes, but, available none the less.
 

POLY LOVER

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Totally agree. I generally don't like plain coffee, but if I'm at EMH until 3AM, I want to be able to get my Caramel Macchiato right after rope drop the next morning.

Maybe the baked goods aren't as high quality as MSB. I don't know; I honestly can't remember ever visiting MSB. But they taste pretty darn good, and there are plenty of other places to get "unique" food items at the parks.


For now
 

HolleBolleGijs

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I can almost guarantee that not every single food vendor in WDW will become sponsored or replaced by a well-known brand. You keep pointing to this basically non-existent trend, when stuff like this has been happening for ages. Disneyland opened with a Maxwell House Coffee House.

In the end, Starbucks is probably cheaper for them to run, and the quality is (arguably) pretty good. I'm not emotionally attached to a bakery, but I think this is win-win.
 

POLY LOVER

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I can almost guarantee that not every single food vendor in WDW will become sponsored or replaced by a well-known brand. You keep pointing to this basically non-existent trend, when stuff like this has been happening for ages. Disneyland opened with a Maxwell House Coffee House.

In the end, Starbucks is probably cheaper for them to run, and the quality is (arguably) pretty good. I'm not emotionally attached to a bakery, but I think this is win-win.

So if it is not the beginning of a trend then why was it done, did we need to sell out the bakery for no reason or to go cheap, remove employees. You know why it was done. Exchange the msb for costs. You can make that argument For almost anything in wdw. Look they sold out the Disney stores and now they are defunct. The next move is Disney quest sold out to the nba experience, yes a trend is forming. Like Disney quest or not.
 

Goofyernmost

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So if it is not the beginning of a trend then why was it done, did we need to sell out the bakery for no reason or to go cheap, remove employees. You know why it was done. Exchange the msb for costs. You can make that argument For almost anything in wdw. Look they sold out the Disney stores and now they are defunct. The next move is Disney quest sold out to the nba experience, yes a trend is forming. Like Disney quest or not.
Disney Stores are defunct? Man, the one in the mall here is in for a surprise since they just remodeled it and had the reopening a month ago. They are going to be shocked. Disney Quest, didn't sell out, it died out. Disney is replacing it with the NBA thing.

I don't have the sales figures, but, since the coffee was awful (they tell me), I will bet that there were not as many people buying those 2000 calorie buns then you might think. They at least offered a substitute for the buns over at the other location. Today's diet trends no longer support a whole lot of empty calories. Things don't just randomly happen, they happen for a reason. We might not all agree with those reasons, but, they exist even if we fail to acknowledge them.
 

HolleBolleGijs

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So if it is not the beginning of a trend then why was it done, did we need to sell out the bakery for no reason or to go cheap, remove employees. You know why it was done. Exchange the msb for costs. You can make that argument For almost anything in wdw. Look they sold out the Disney stores and now they are defunct. The next move is Disney quest sold out to the nba experience, yes a trend is forming. Like Disney quest or not.

No no no. Just no. First of all, DisneyQuest is an entirely different subject. I've never visited, but from what I hear it should have closed or been significantly updated long ago. You could say it was a failed experiment that they just kept around. Plus, instead of investing their own money by replacing it with something inherently Disney, they will now have more income that they can use to giving the current parks the TLC that they desperately need (although I admittedly don't know how that budgetary stuff works). Plus, DTD has always had third-party vendors. Planet Hollywood. Wolfgang Puck.

I wouldn't call it a trend. The Disney Store thing happened in 2004. Disney reacquired them in 2009. Starbucks initially happened in 2013. Now DisneyQuest, which is a HUGE financial decision, and not just licencing a bakery. Totally different ballpark. 3 instances (2 if you don't count DisneyQuest) over 11 years? That doesn't exactly constitute a trend.

Bottom line is, by licensing a minor food location like Starbucks, it reduces their cost and they can spend the money on more important things.
 
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wm49rs

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So if it is not the beginning of a trend then why was it done, did we need to sell out the bakery for no reason or to go cheap, remove employees. You know why it was done. Exchange the msb for costs. You can make that argument For almost anything in wdw. Look they sold out the Disney stores and now they are defunct. The next move is Disney quest sold out to the nba experience, yes a trend is forming. Like Disney quest or not.
You just can't keep on your own topic, can you?
 

POLY LOVER

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Disney Stores are defunct? Man, the one in the mall here is in for a surprise since they just remodeled it and had the reopening a month ago. They are going to be shocked. Disney Quest, didn't sell out, it died out. Disney is replacing it with the NBA thing.

I don't have the sales figures, but, since the coffee was awful (they tell me), I will bet that there were not as many people buying those 2000 calorie buns then you might think. They at least offered a substitute for the buns over at the other location. Today's diet trends no longer support a whole lot of empty calories. Things don't just randomly happen, they happen for a reason. We might not all agree with those reasons, but, they exist even if we fail to acknowledge them.
The Disney stores are no longer run by Disney. Check the Disney financial statement.
 

POLY LOVER

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Original Poster
Disney Stores are defunct? Man, the one in the mall here is in for a surprise since they just remodeled it and had the reopening a month ago. They are going to be shocked. Disney Quest, didn't sell out, it died out. Disney is replacing it with the NBA thing.

I don't have the sales figures, but, since the coffee was awful (they tell me), I will bet that there were not as many people buying those 2000 calorie buns then you might think. They at least offered a substitute for the buns over at the other location. Today's diet trends no longer support a whole lot of empty calories. Things don't just randomly happen, they happen for a reason. We might not all agree with those reasons, but, they exist even if we fail to acknowledge them.
I,m glad Disney was concerned about our fat intake and removed the evil msb and replaced it with low fat Starbucks cakes.lol I,m sure that was the catalyst for the change.
 

POLY LOVER

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I!m sure many of you hold stock in both company's and see it as more profits ang higher stock prices. That all good to wear rose colored glasses for your investments. However that's not the point , they sold out the msb to Starbucks.
 

POLY LOVER

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And there you have the crux of the discussion. Differences of opinion concerning coffee, which is awful no matter who makes it, and rolls that are slightly different then what we were used too. It amazes me that the discussion continues. Those that like one or the other will not be swayed and this could go on for years.

If you like coffee (don't see how, but) then you will approve of the Faux Bakery changing over to Starbucks. If you don't care about the coffee but loved the old recipe more then the new, then you are going to be against it. Since Disney, not Starbucks, made the decision to use a different recipe for the rolls, isn't it possible that even if Starbucks didn't go in they might very well have changed the rolls anyway? Bottom lines, it isn't there anymore! There is nothing new about Disney having outside vendors in the parks and it has been that way since day one of Disneyland!

What is the purpose of the discussion at all? What is done is done and what individuals like and dislike is already established. Why even get angry about it. One can get Starbucks on practically every street corner in America and there are dozens of places that make Cinnamon Rolls as good as, if not better then, the ones that were at MSB, everywhere.

Even Mickey Bars are nothing more then Dove Bars with ears. Nothing that you can buy at Disney is not available on the outside, perhaps in different shapes, but, available none the less.

Thanks, my point is and has been, it's not Starbucks coffee it's the sell out of the bakery. So let's see what the future holds is this a trend or an isolated decision?
We all understand corp. America when they make these moves it's with purpose usually testing the waters. They always have reasons, if it works and has little blow back then they take the next step. I,m willing to wait and see but I made my feelings known to Starbucks and Disney. If no one cares then so be it, I do.
I,m a Disney fan first not an excuse maker for a bad decision. They do good things and sometimes not so good things, as fans we need to call them on it. I look at Main Street as the one part of the park that should be untouchable, it's the place Walt Disney took special interest in to make it like small town America.
If we no longer care about that concept, then bring on DQ, Nathan,s, m&m,s stores etc. but I say I can get those items anywhere I don,t need to go to Disney and pay three times the price for ordinary.
Think about it why do people pay the huge ticket price to go to Disney, because they expect different, unique rides otherwise you could stay home and go to six flags and save a bundle.
 

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