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disneygeek90

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Some shops would be consumed by the extended queue. There are no plans for anything other than a new overlay. This would be exactly as Maelstrom was changed to Frozen. That's not to say that it would be cheap, but it isn't going to be something that requires new pathing for boats.
How are the chances for Coco looking at the moment?
 

kpilcher

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Mike S

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Dinoland Coaster is not on the horizon as far as I know. Brazil is gone. Disney would rather work with Chile or some other South American country at this point. Avatar is very unlikely to get another E-Ticket... likely C or lower. Coco may be sooner than you think.
If Avatar expansion will be a C or lower how does that fit with wanting something high capacity like you said before? 🤨

Disney’s not thinking right.
 

SplashZander

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How can they build a Coco D/E ticket? I've asked this before but never really got an answer -- wouldn't it require a huge overhaul of the entire Mexico pavilion just to have room for a queue? It doesn't seem like there's any room next to the pavilion because it's pretty close to the Odyssey building and then Test Track.

I guess they could tear down the margarita stand and build a queue there?

I also don't see how they could change that boat ride into a D/E ticket period -- I suppose Frozen Ever After is considered a D ticket (I don't think it's very good), though, and they could do something similar to that.
I know @WDW Pro has already said it would be an overlay to the already existing ride in the Mexico Pavilion, but it would be more than possible to build a separate facility that could house an E-Ticket.

 

trainplane3

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So I made a interesting observation. In a video of DLs RotR, the inner door of the drop elevator doesn't close as seen here:
(Watch the "reaction" camera, 16:20)

While in WDW, it does. You see the outer door close followed by the inner:
(You'll have to spin this video around, 24:24)

@marni1971, any thoughts on this? I would think it'd throw an error and not allow the ride to proceed but it obviously isn't hurting anything in this condition. Also, it's neat to "see" the simulator in motion from the inside.
 

SplashZander

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So I made a interesting observation. In a video of DLs RotR, the inner door of the drop elevator doesn't close as seen here:
(Watch the "reaction" camera, 16:20)

While in WDW, it does. You see the outer door close followed by the inner:
(You'll have to spin this video around, 24:24)

@marni1971, any thoughts on this? I would think it'd throw an error and not allow the ride to proceed but it obviously isn't hurting anything in this condition. Also, it's neat to "see" the simulator in motion from the inside.
I assume it is simply a malfunction.

On my first two rides in WDW, I did not notice the inner door not closing, but then again, I do not recall looking back.

However, on the third ride, I did turn around and saw the back was open.
 
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SplashZander

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So I made a interesting observation. In a video of DLs RotR, the inner door of the drop elevator doesn't close as seen here:
(Watch the "reaction" camera, 16:20)

While in WDW, it does. You see the outer door close followed by the inner:
(You'll have to spin this video around, 24:24)

@marni1971, any thoughts on this? I would think it'd throw an error and not allow the ride to proceed but it obviously isn't hurting anything in this condition. Also, it's neat to "see" the simulator in motion from the inside.
I assume it is simply a malfunction.

On my first two rides in WDW, I did not notice the inner door not closing, but then again, I do not recall looking back.

However, on the third ride, I did turn around and saw the back was open.
Here is another example of the inner door being open.

 

WDW Pro

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So since the Mandalorian would be a senior citizen at the time of Batuu, I assume this is the first step to relax the needless time/space lock WDI created.
Lucasfilm Story Group is responsible for that mess. They've been dismantled.

I will say that 40% downtime does not sound at all right as someone who worked the attraction...
The ride is automatically down two hours of the day more than other attractions for SCHEDULED downtime. How in the world could that not sound right to you?

Thanks for the diagram. I can give you a basic outline with this. So, the new Coco overlay would have you welcomed to Dia de los Muertos celebration at the loading dock, with a "radio program" quietly playing about De La Cruz playing as you round the volcano. F is the first scene that features Miguel playing in his attic. This is followed by screens of Miguel feuding with is grandmother, and then of him playing De la Cruz' guitar. A fog screen with projected marigold petals flowing downward is used to transport guests into the land of the muertos. H is Miguel meeting Victor, followed by a large budget "Poco Loco" scene. The only thing kept is a repurposed use of divers on a cliff scene, which is largely a gesture to the ride's past. The ride skips then to Miguel meeting De La Cruz and finding out the truth in L. Boats then travel through a door which opens into Coco with Miguel, remembering Victor and singing Recuerdame together. Passing through another door, the rest of the former finale is used for Miguel's family celebrating Dia de los Muertos with all the deceased family gathered together. The boats finish by passing by Dante. As boats prepare to unload, a new radio station show is playing about the music of Victor Rivera with a new rendition of Recuerdame recorded just for the ride.

This is the proposed Epcot version. The CA version has two more scenes proposed, but uses mostly the same animatronics and props.

How are the chances for Coco looking at the moment?
As good as something can look before it is green lit. It will likely come in after Mary Poppins.

If Avatar expansion will be a C or lower how does that fit with wanting something high capacity like you said before? 🤨

Disney’s not thinking right.
I've heard a walk-thru faux veterinary care center is the most likely addition. The big draw would be coming face to face with a massive Toruk animatronic at the end. Other animatronics would be on display as well (under the guise of humans caring for the fauna of Pandora), but the Toruk is where the big money would go.

I assume it is simply a malfunction.

On my first two rides in WDW, I did not notice the inner door not closing, but then again, I do not recall looking back.

However, on the third ride, I did turn around and saw the back was open.
If that door doesn't close, it's a big no-no. The fact that it's happening on a regular basis enough to be in multiple videos, shows you just how much they're letting slide to keep the ride going.
 

mickEblu

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Thanks for the diagram. I can give you a basic outline with this. So, the new Coco overlay would have you welcomed to Dia de los Muertos celebration at the loading dock, with a "radio program" quietly playing about De La Cruz playing as you round the volcano. F is the first scene that features Miguel playing in his attic. This is followed by screens of Miguel feuding with is grandmother, and then of him playing De la Cruz' guitar. A fog screen with projected marigold petals flowing downward is used to transport guests into the land of the muertos. H is Miguel meeting Victor, followed by a large budget "Poco Loco" scene. The only thing kept is a repurposed use of divers on a cliff scene, which is largely a gesture to the ride's past. The ride skips then to Miguel meeting De La Cruz and finding out the truth in L. Boats then travel through a door which opens into Coco with Miguel, remembering Victor and singing Recuerdame together. Passing through another door, the rest of the former finale is used for Miguel's family celebrating Dia de los Muertos with all the deceased family gathered together. The boats finish by passing by Dante. As boats prepare to unload, a new radio station show is playing about the music of Victor Rivera with a new rendition of Recuerdame recorded just for the ride.

This is the proposed Epcot version. The CA version has two more scenes proposed, but uses mostly the same animatronics and props.
Thanks for the breakdown. Why is this sounding like the Coco version of the Little Mermaid? Sounds like a linear retelling of the movie? Where is the danger?

And at least for DCA, why aren’t they using Shanghai’s Peter Pan ride system and putting us in the air on alibrijes? I’m losing a lot of faith in Disney/ WDI when it comes to the parks.
 
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Timothy_Q

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Lucasfilm Story Group is responsible for that mess. They've been dismantled.



The ride is automatically down two hours of the day more than other attractions for SCHEDULED downtime. How in the world could that not sound right to you?



Thanks for the diagram. I can give you a basic outline with this. So, the new Coco overlay would have you welcomed to Dia de los Muertos celebration at the loading dock, with a "radio program" quietly playing about De La Cruz playing as you round the volcano. F is the first scene that features Miguel playing in his attic. This is followed by screens of Miguel feuding with is grandmother, and then of him playing De la Cruz' guitar. A fog screen with projected marigold petals flowing downward is used to transport guests into the land of the muertos. H is Miguel meeting Victor, followed by a large budget "Poco Loco" scene. The only thing kept is a repurposed use of divers on a cliff scene, which is largely a gesture to the ride's past. The ride skips then to Miguel meeting De La Cruz and finding out the truth in L. Boats then travel through a door which opens into Coco with Miguel, remembering Victor and singing Recuerdame together. Passing through another door, the rest of the former finale is used for Miguel's family celebrating Dia de los Muertos with all the deceased family gathered together. The boats finish by passing by Dante. As boats prepare to unload, a new radio station show is playing about the music of Victor Rivera with a new rendition of Recuerdame recorded just for the ride.

This is the proposed Epcot version. The CA version has two more scenes proposed, but uses mostly the same animatronics and props.



As good as something can look before it is green lit. It will likely come in after Mary Poppins.



I've heard a walk-thru faux veterinary care center is the most likely addition. The big draw would be coming face to face with a massive Toruk animatronic at the end. Other animatronics would be on display as well (under the guise of humans caring for the fauna of Pandora), but the Toruk is where the big money would go.



If that door doesn't close, it's a big no-no. The fact that it's happening on a regular basis enough to be in multiple videos, shows you just how much they're letting slide to keep the ride going.
Thanks for all the great info!

Seems a shame not to expand the Mexico ride. It’ll be another movie in World Showcase with an underwhelmingly short and simple ride that deserved a lot more.

Any idea what they’ve decided on for Mary Poppins?
 

WDW Pro

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Thanks for all the great info!

Seems a shame not to expand the Mexico ride. It’ll be another movie in World Showcase with an underwhelmingly short and simple ride that deserved a lot more.

Any idea what they’ve decided on for Mary Poppins?
I haven't heard anything since Double Decker Carousel. My guess is fleshing out what it will be is a D23 announcement, and it's likely being held very close to the vest (if decided) at the moment.
 

Mike S

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I've heard a walk-thru faux veterinary care center is the most likely addition. The big draw would be coming face to face with a massive Toruk animatronic at the end. Other animatronics would be on display as well (under the guise of humans caring for the fauna of Pandora), but the Toruk is where the big money would go.
No way that thing would be true to size.

This is them compared to a Na’vi...

Now a Na’vi compared to us...

Unless of course you meant a Banshee AA which would be much more believable not to mention practical.
 

DarkMetroid567

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The ride is automatically down two hours of the day more than other attractions for SCHEDULED downtime. How in the world could that not sound right to you?
Because it doesn’t sound right. I left about 2 weeks ago so my info is (I guess) dated, but scheduled downtime doesn’t make a lot of sense.

If you’re talking about the delayed openings; those haven’t occurred until as of late, so that IS past my time. If you’re talking about the 2 hour boarding group closure before park closure, we still boarded guests. I was able to ride the attraction at this point, too. (I’ve ridden Rise as early as 6am and as late as 10:30pm.)

Check my posts and you’ll see how critical I’ve been of this attraction. But as someone who breathed the attraction for 2 months, it just doesn’t sound right, and I’m admittedly less inclined to believe you after being needlessly aggressive about something you could’ve very easily explained instead of just telling everyone they’re wrong.
 

WDW Pro

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Because it doesn’t sound right. I left about 2 weeks ago so my info is (I guess) dated, but scheduled downtime doesn’t make a lot of sense.

If you’re talking about the delayed openings; those haven’t occurred until as of late, so that IS past my time. If you’re talking about the 2 hour boarding group closure before park closure, we still boarded guests. I was able to ride the attraction at this point, too. (I’ve ridden Rise as early as 6am and as late as 10:30pm.)

Check my posts and you’ll see how critical I’ve been of this attraction. But as someone who breathed the attraction for 2 months, it just doesn’t sound right, and I’m admittedly less inclined to believe you after being needlessly aggressive about something you could’ve very easily explained instead of just telling everyone they’re wrong.
Yes, you've boarded guests, but you stopped the queue system 2 hours prior to closing, which is the same as putting the cast member at the end of the line on an attraction at park closing. Other attractions are running their queue to closing, RotR is running the queue until 2 hours prior to closing. I don't see how stating this is aggressive. When you add to this delayed openings in the past, plus significant downtime for in the past weeks, you arrive at around 40% -- as was reported to me. Maybe its 37.5%, maybe its 41.2%... but it's around 40%.
 
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