DHS Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance

[Tom Morrow]

I haven't seen the film and don't want to spoil it for myself, but this sounds like saying Gringotts is aged because Voldemort is eventually defeated.

I feel like I'm friends with Hux at this point.

This is almost a spoiler. Be careful.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I haven't seen the film and don't want to spoil it for myself, but this sounds like saying Gringotts is aged because Voldemort is eventually defeated.


This is almost a spoiler. Be careful.

It will be interesting to discuss in a few weeks. It is clear to me that the Imagineers were given some “information”. I can’t think of a ride that opened before a film with such a connection.

 

[Tom Morrow]

First, all of those commenting that Rise's greatest strength isn't in any one attribute. It's how all of the little pieces combine together. Over the last several years, I made comments about how this was going to be the "kitchen sink" ride as it takes every lesson learned over the course of almost 70 years of Imagineering and puts it to use. If you break it apart, there is actually not a whole lot of new ground broken with the ride. What it does best is to take the concepts and execution of what has been done before and meld it together. It would be interesting to break the attraction apart and take every effect/system/attribute and try to tie it back to its theme park pedigree. It would likely be the biggest such footprint of any attraction ever built.

The other thing that pleased me is hearing so many comment about the entire experience instead of just the troop transport RV part of the ride. Had the attraction failed to connect with the masses at the point of that first mission briefing, then perhaps undue focus would be placed in the LPS RV portion of the ride. The whole experience is the sum of all the parts. The attraction has this kinetic motion that kicks into gear once you enter the briefing room and it keeps surging every time another door opens. The cast in Florida deserve compliments on how much they are adding to the overall show.

Well said. This ride is incredible because of the sum of it's parts, even though the many different parts don't exactly do anything new. To see them all blended together so well, seamlessly, in a way that resonates extremely well with riders is why I firmly stand by my assessment that this is a theme park game changer. Not only has it redefined what a theme park attraction can be, it actively goes out of it's way to subvert expectations of what we've come to expect from theme park rides. I'm happy that the vast majority of riders have been able to recognize that the experience starts with the hologram briefing room and that everything leading up to the transport vehicle is more than just an extended pre-show.

 

[Parker in NYC]

Well said. This ride is incredible because of the sum of it's parts, even though the many different parts don't exactly do anything new. To see them all blended together so well, seamlessly, in a way that resonates extremely well with riders is why I firmly standby my assessment that this is a theme park game changer. Not only has it redefined what a theme park attraction can be, it actively goes out of it's way to subvert expectations of what we've come to expect from theme park rides. I'm happy that the vast majority of riders have been able to recognize that the experience starts with the hologram briefing room and that everything leading up to the transport vehicle is more than just an extended pre-show.

I can't agree more with both of you. My immediate reaction was that it's not an attraction so much as a sort of three-act theatrical experience. When everything's running smoothly, the story and pacing are brilliantly executed. It's still so undefinable for me as a "theme park attraction" that I have no clue where to rank it. It's truly in a class by itself.

 

[Mike S]

Well said. This ride is incredible because of the sum of it's parts, even though the many different parts don't exactly do anything new. To see them all blended together so well, seamlessly, in a way that resonates extremely well with riders is why I firmly standby my assessment that this is a theme park game changer. Not only has it redefined what a theme park attraction can be, it actively goes out of it's way to subvert expectations of what we've come to expect from theme park rides. I'm happy that the vast majority of riders have been able to recognize that the experience starts with the hologram briefing room and that everything leading up to the transport vehicle is more than just an extended pre-show.

Helps that it’s done in a good way

 

[JediMasterMatt]

...subvert expectations...

A perfect example of this is to watch the guest behavior in the shuttle. Like cattle, theme park guests have been conditioned over the years that if you enter into a room via door A and there is a door B - that is were you will be exiting.

Not only does a repeat rider get the satisfaction of hearing the audible gasp from the uninitiated that occurs when they see their first glimpse of the destroyer's hanger bay; but, you get to observe the majority of them be startled when the door opens BEHIND them and the officer announces their presence.

The unexpected when done properly is always more satisfying than the same thing over and over.

 

[Mike S]

A perfect example of this is to watch the guest behavior in the shuttle. Like cattle, theme park guests have been conditioned over the years that if you enter into a room via door A and there is a door B - that is were you will be exiting.

Not only does a repeat rider get the satisfaction of hearing the audible gasp from the uninitiated that occurs when they see their first glimpse of the destroyer's hanger bay; but, you get to observe the majority of them be startled when the door opens BEHIND them and the officer announces their presence.

The unexpected when done properly is always more satisfying than the same thing over and over.

That is one of my favorite things about this attraction lol. I wonder if I equally surprise the First Order Officer when I casually stand right behind the door in the direct path they use to enter

 

[disneygeek90]

This is almost a spoiler. Be careful.

Oh I was talking about ROTR just from being on a few times now. I didn't think that would be considered a spoiler.

 

[DarkMetroid567]

I can't agree more with both of you. My immediate reaction was that it's not an attraction so much as a sort of three-act theatrical experience. When everything's running smoothly, the story and pacing are brilliantly executed. It's still so undefinable for me as a "theme park attraction" that I have no clue where to rank it. It's truly in a class by itself.

Definitely. I keep saying to others that Rise is the best attraction Disney has ever done, not the best ride. If the Rise experience started in the prisoner transport directly from the mediocre queue, I wouldn’t wait longer than 45 minutes for it.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Here's the thread you're looking for to talk about the new movie and how it affects SWL and its attractions...

SPOILERS: How Episode 9 Affects Star Wars Land and its Attractions

Here you can talk about the impact of the latest movie and its effects on Star Wars Land. Should either ride be updated? The streetmosphere? The ronto wraps?

forums.wdwmagic.com

People who want to talk about RotR and haven't seen the movie yet don't want to hear about the movie. Even vague hints or "non-spoilers". So, don't discuss the movie here, please.

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[Naplesgolfer]

What is the consensus for how long before the two GE rides change to Fast Pass?

 

[Parker in NYC]

What is the consensus for how long before the two GE rides change to Fast Pass?

From today’s numbers, it seems they’re already kicking the downtime issues in the behind. But the second RoTR gets it, the more fires Disney will have to put out if downtime poses a problem. People will be planning their trips around those damned FastPasses, so I’m not sure that’s a Star War they’re willing to fight. I’m more curious to see when they’d add it to those After Hours things. That’d be a litmus test of Disney’s confidence in its operation.

Until then, I imagine nothing will change with Falcon either, since it’s acting as a kind of queue in the morning for a lot of folks in the virtual queue. Not the savvy, of course, but many first-time visitors to GE.

 

[ToTBellHop]

What is the consensus for how long before the two GE rides change to Fast Pass?

I suspect by the end of summer 2020. At the very latest. Probably sooner. The fact that they are opening another E ticket in three months muddies the water.

 

[Ravenclaw78]

I suspect by the end of summer 2022. At the very earliest. Probably later. The fact that they are opening another E ticket in three months muddies the water.

FTFY. IMHO.

Seriously, they'll be better off by far, operationally and guest-satisfaction-wise, if they go to a normal standby queue exclusively and reserve the FP+ line for one-offs like DAS and VIP tours that can't utilize standby.

 

[ToTBellHop]

FTFY. IMHO.

Seriously, they'll be better off by far, operationally and guest-satisfaction-wise, if they go to a normal standby queue exclusively and reserve the FP+ line for one-offs like DAS and VIP tours that can't utilize standby.

That’s not how WDW is run. They will allow guests to pre-book as soon as they can reasonably do so. They just need to be certain it is staying reliable.

 

[Ravenclaw78]

That’s not how WDW is run. They will allow guests to pre-book as soon as they can reasonably do so. They just need to be certain it is staying reliable.

Perhaps not, but there's been nothing about Galaxy's Edge so far that has in any way been run the way WDW Ops typically runs things.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Perhaps not, but there's been nothing about Galaxy's Edge so far that has in any way been run the way WDW Ops typically runs things.

It is planned to be the new “typical”. But you can’t have four different BGs for guests to pick from.

 

[pdude81]

I don’t want to go too far down this rabbit hole but wish they had just given J.J. the trilogy. You need one person in charge like Kevin Feige for the MCU. That’s what makes the MCU so cool to me. A single vision.

They tried but he said no. In an interview I saw recently JJ said he was burned out at the point and not up for doing pre production on 8 while still trying to film and wrap 7.

 

[RSoxNo1]

That’s not how WDW is run. They will allow guests to pre-book as soon as they can reasonably do so. They just need to be certain it is staying reliable.

At this point, they have to realize that advanced bookings of Fastpasses are generally stress inducing not stress relieving. The fact that they have an alternative system for these two attractions tells me that there's at least a chance that there is a different plan, other than rolling new rides into the existing system.

 

[MisterPenguin]

At this point, they have to realize that advanced bookings of Fastpasses are generally stress inducing not stress relieving. The fact that they have an alternative system for these two attractions tells me that there's at least a chance that there is a different plan, other than rolling new rides into the existing system.

Well... they dropped BGs with the initial opening of SWL and MFSR as soon as they no longer needed it. So, I don't think they're too wedded to the BG/VQ system.

I believe their thinking is such: By having a VQ with two types of BGs, namely, the main group and a back-up group, they can minimize having to give out park hoppers and return-fast-passes if the ride breaks down. They do this by having a main group that is very likely to ride, even with break-downs. And if there are indeed break-downs, well, then, at least they got that first group through and no compensatory freebies need to be given out.

And then, if there are no break-downs, then the back-up group can ride.

Thus, I foresee them having VQs until ride stability is very high.

Also, it would make sense that when MMRR opens, to put that on VQ and then put RotR in the top tier FP.

But, that's just my guess work.