Schmidt
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This isn't the 80's. People have social media, and plan their vacations using these resources and if they are not aware of this opening then they didn't do their homework. Kind of their fault? right?
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News Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance Standby Line and Boarding Groups at Disney's Hollywood Studios
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Epcot_Imagineer
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@marni1971 how much is ops wishing they also had MMRR open now? It was the initial goal to have both open around the same time correct? Hell, I thought MMRR was supposed to be opened first.
AshaNeOmah
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How do you reason that? They're opening the parking lot early for day guests.
Tom Morrow
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Doing your homework for Disney, for non die-hards like us, is things like, “oh, Magic Kingdom closes at 6:00 today. Let’s save it for another day because I want to see the fireworks.”
Not: “oh, so get this, Disney is actually lying about when the park opens so a select few guests can benefit at the expense of everyone else.
MMRR was meant to be the pressure relief for a two attraction SWL. It was meant to open within a month before SWL. Two weeks beforehand for softs at the minimum.
Then it all went south.
lentesta
Premium Member
Your lips to God's ears.
AshaNeOmah
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If you can tolerate pages and pages of arguments, this is exactly what I was afraid of. Resort guests can't get bus transportation before the scheduled time, totally at Disney's mercy, while day guests are getting to park and swarm the gate hours early. Needing Uber or Lyft to compete with day guests simply puts resort guests at a disadvantage.
I'm not going to argue it anymore, but thank you for posting your experience.
Elizabeth Swann
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EMH is only on Sunday not every day
mergatroid
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Yes I completely see your point. I suppose the problem Disney has is that right now using the virtual queue (which I believe is fairer than 60/30 days advance FP+s) will still disappoint many. The ride only has the capacity to take so many guests per day, especially now as it's bedding in. The balancing act is to make the system as fair as possible whilst acknowledging many will be disappointed.
I get saying "We open at 8am" when in reality they open at 6am will mislead those who otherwise would be there an hour before 6am. Maybe their thinking is that they will only open at 8am unless there's thousands at the gate at 6am, but every morning at 6am there's crowds there so they let them in. I suppose the ones who've done their 'research' and arrive at silly o'clock (like me in September) think it's great that they're getting in earlier than officially announced, whilst I appreciate that those who would have got there earlier but didn't aren't quite as impressed. If however Disney announced a 6am opening then the domino effect would be more people arriving even earlier and earlier which would possibly decrease the fun factor for even more people than the current system does?
It's a tough call but I do see both sides to the argument.
I really don't understand how this works. So if your not onsite. They "let" you in at 7:25. But then everyone how is in the park can get on the ap at 7:45 to get a boarding pass? So basically once your in the park its an even playing field. It must be a huge back uo with everyone stoping once thru the turnstiles and looking at the ap. I am surprised we haven't heard report of the ap crashing.
Tom Morrow
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It does. If they had been 5 minutes later, they would not have rode at all. This is going off Disney’s official word and using Disney’s transportation and it’s official schedule. Your Flight of Passage comparison is irrelevant.
AshaNeOmah
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Pooh, this is not me on another account. I just wanted to make sure you knew.
There are legions of us lazy guests who feel as though Disney shouldn't be so deceptive, especially when resort guests rely on your transportation.
ImperfectPixie
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My two cents on the whole "due diligence" thing.
Many people who are new to planning a Disney trip will rely on Disney's own website because they make it appear as if all the information you need is there - when it most certainly IS NOT. In order to learn all the little tricks you need to join Disney FB groups or forums, and utilize other websites as well. (Thank goodness for @lentesta and his crew - I've been using their books and website for years! ETA: Since 2000...my honeymoon.)
Combine the above with the (in my mind) deceptive commercials that show things that never happen in the parks/resorts, that they are now opening DHS at seemingly random times, that the boarding groups are full often before the park even officially opens, and you're setting up people who didn't know they needed to spend so much time on non-Disney-owned websites in order to achieve their goals for failure. That is NOT the fault of the guests.
Many people who are new to planning a Disney trip will rely on Disney's own website because they make it appear as if all the information you need is there - when it most certainly IS NOT. In order to learn all the little tricks you need to join Disney FB groups or forums, and utilize other websites as well. (Thank goodness for @lentesta and his crew - I've been using their books and website for years! ETA: Since 2000...my honeymoon.)
Combine the above with the (in my mind) deceptive commercials that show things that never happen in the parks/resorts, that they are now opening DHS at seemingly random times, that the boarding groups are full often before the park even officially opens, and you're setting up people who didn't know they needed to spend so much time on non-Disney-owned websites in order to achieve their goals for failure. That is NOT the fault of the guests.
All of that should show in the app
disneygeek90
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It has only been one day so far on Sunday. And like everything else, they "said" 8am the groups would unlock, but people that were checking earlier were able to get in, which likely staggered the traffic on the app. I think they actually opened the groups around 7:40/7:45.
The EMH mornings are a bit more unpredictable right now.
ToTBellHop
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Can’t check the app while driving.
disneygeek90
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It's better than 12 hours in standby.
ImperfectPixie
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You putting the blame on guests not doing their "due diligence" isn't right. Disney themselves make it appear as if using their website alone is enough to be successful in achieving your Disney vacation goals, but those of us who spend any time here know that isn't the case.
VaderTron
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I already said I know why.
I was combating the notion that nothing could be done. There is plenty that can be done. It just doesn't make sense for Disney to do anything other than what they did. They can get away with lying because no one really cares they lied except the few people that went on opening weekend that didn't understand what they were getting themselves into. The die-hards who got there stupid early are happy with the arrangement. They are the ones who will spend tons of money on ridiculously priced merch, food, and extras. They are the ones Disney wants to please most. The ones who were naive enough to believe they could come whenever they felt like it and trusted the posted opening times also are probably willing to put the full blame on themselves. These are the same ones who are also likely naive enough to believe the prices on Disney goods, food, and drinks are "worth it" and will spend the time they were going to ride RotR "making up for it" to their family with lightsaber building purchases, droid building purchases, and $50 drinks at a cantina. Win-win for Disney.