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Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance opening reports and using Boarding Groups at Disneyland
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TP2000
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Told you the ride stays open often closer to closing then you think
But how often does it break down with a full queue just after they call the last Boarding Groups for the night?
I wouldn't use last night's mess as proof the ride works awesome. It sounds like they scrambled to get the ride reopened after Last Call at the end of a rather crummy day. And for that the Anaheim CM's should be commended!
But I'm still of the opinion that when they call the final Boarding Groups by 8:30pm each night, they've got about an hour left of queue to board before they wrap it up by the time fireworks are ending at 9:45pm.
Disney Analyst
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I've been hearing they give the last groups 2 hours return time, and they call at least 2 hours worth at the end, I could be wrong. So I think they plan for a 10:30 cut off with room built in for breakdowns, as they don't want to cancel the last groups they call and then have to pay them all off with tickets and stuff.
I also assume they are counting in people who have been called but their boarding group time was ruined due to breakdowns, but also unsure.
Would be interested to hear from folks who have been in that last group.
Ismael Flores
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They really missed out on having some pretty amazing water features in these enormous rock cliffs
mickEblu
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I’m still at the park today and will write it up tmrw but I agree with a lot of what you, Bench and @SuddenStorm has to say.
TP2000
Well-Known Member
You enjoy your trip!
Come back and fill us in at your convenience, but for now focus on your family and your vacation!
Interestingly, I was Group 70 on Friday 1/24, and was given a 2 hour window to return (I got the notification around 2:45 I think and had until 4:45). I'd just assumed they reverted to a 2-hour return like WDW, I didn't even realize it is still usually a 1-hour return here.
Disney Analyst
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Okay thanks for verifying, I had thought I heard they were two hour windows. It was 1 hour at the start, but sounds like everyone gets 2 hours now.
DrAlice
Well-Known Member
Just booked our trip for July. I'm prepping my 8-year-old that we may not be able to ride. I explained to my husband what we will likely have to go through to ride and he said, "There are other rides. I'm not doing that. No ride is worth that stress.". He's not wrong. I'm going to stay optimistic that it will not be as crazy when all the APs are blocked out. (So, you know, the passes will be gone in 10 minutes instead of 2, right?)
Curious Constance
Well-Known Member
In going late June, and ten minutes sounds like heaven to me.
Kiwiduck
Well-Known Member
I'm hoping by my trip in mid May that there will at least be enough time to refresh the screen when I inevitably panic and stuff up my first attempt.
Darkbeer1
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I just want to thank TP2000 and others for posting actual times and when Rise before Dawn is actually running.
I have been focused on other things, including a funeral on Friday, a political cat-fight about a homeless shelter, and even Knott's Pin Trading (Yes, an inside job that had the vast majority of the 500 pin limited release sold to one person, so they would end up on eBay... what a shock).
But in reality, this does impact visitors coming to the DLR and the region. And based on what is coming out of the Chamber/Visit Anaheim, it isn't good news,
Decision have been made, and yes, more decisions will be made, as the status quo isn't the best on many levels. And having a second building with the same experience isn't happening any time soon.
As TP2000 pointed out, even offering a Front of the Line pass for Hotel Guests would basically eat up all the capacity, and the ride couldn't handle 100% return rate. Let's say a FotL pass for each guests in the room (registered room key) with a 3 day or longer stay. So now we are looking at about 1/4 of the guests each day (some guests won't qualify or want the pass). That is still about 5,000 passes needed to be honored daily.
So now, what do you tell the AP and others, when there is only about 20 BG's a day, and some of those, if not all, are Standby.
Do you offer a type of Special Tour or just a FotL as a stand alone for a fee. and if so, how much? $100, $150, maybe more as a different alternative.
But visitors are asking how to be guaranteed a chance to see RotR, based from Visit Anaheim's internal info including surveys.
It is late, and my life is full of meetings and gatherings. But my mind is still in high gear. (And I don't drink coffee or other caffeine stuff)
Night all. Is that Bright Suns? Anyways, have a great day! Buh Bye.
I have been focused on other things, including a funeral on Friday, a political cat-fight about a homeless shelter, and even Knott's Pin Trading (Yes, an inside job that had the vast majority of the 500 pin limited release sold to one person, so they would end up on eBay... what a shock).
But in reality, this does impact visitors coming to the DLR and the region. And based on what is coming out of the Chamber/Visit Anaheim, it isn't good news,
Decision have been made, and yes, more decisions will be made, as the status quo isn't the best on many levels. And having a second building with the same experience isn't happening any time soon.
As TP2000 pointed out, even offering a Front of the Line pass for Hotel Guests would basically eat up all the capacity, and the ride couldn't handle 100% return rate. Let's say a FotL pass for each guests in the room (registered room key) with a 3 day or longer stay. So now we are looking at about 1/4 of the guests each day (some guests won't qualify or want the pass). That is still about 5,000 passes needed to be honored daily.
So now, what do you tell the AP and others, when there is only about 20 BG's a day, and some of those, if not all, are Standby.
Do you offer a type of Special Tour or just a FotL as a stand alone for a fee. and if so, how much? $100, $150, maybe more as a different alternative.
But visitors are asking how to be guaranteed a chance to see RotR, based from Visit Anaheim's internal info including surveys.
It is late, and my life is full of meetings and gatherings. But my mind is still in high gear. (And I don't drink coffee or other caffeine stuff)
Night all. Is that Bright Suns? Anyways, have a great day! Buh Bye.
TiggerDad
Well-Known Member
I wanted a guaranteed chance to see Galaxy's Edge, so I booked a reservation for opening month in June, and flew across the country to visit because Florida wasn't doing the reservations. I don't want to drop thousands on a vacation only to find that I can't do the coolest thing available at the resort. I still haven't ridden RotR because I don't want to spend the money to fly to either Florida or California, get up at the crack of dawn and maybe get lucky.
flynnibus
Premium Member
spends thousands of dollars... can't be bothered to get up at 6am...
the struggle is real y0...
truecoat
Well-Known Member
The best time to go this Summer will probably be around the time of the opening of Avengers Campus. I assume there will be more of a focus to ride the newest of the new. I just hope it's better than just a copy of TSMM so it draws people away from the Disneyland.
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Purduevian
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Why guess when Math can help us figure it out? All we need is Boarding Group size (estimated at 100 people), rate at which they are calling boarding groups(from thrill data), and throughput when the line is running which you have quoted in another post!
But this line about the recent 1,100 riders per hour caught my eye and made me laugh out loud...
Lets take yesterday (2/3 data for an example):
This is a nice easy day as there was only 1 breakdowns. First, the ride ran from 9:15 to 2:10 calling groups 1 to 63. Meaning 6300 people were able to get in line for 4 hours and 55 minutes. In those 4 hours and 55 minutes, the ride could have gotten through 5,407 people. Leaving 893 people that had been called not ridden prior to the break down.
The ride comes back online briefly at 2:50pm calling group 64 and 65, thus it seems like the ride tried to open for about 10 minutes. Maybe a few more people go on, but it's unlikely many got a full ride experience and did not need to come back later. Adding group 64 and 65 to the 893 people that had not ridden yet, we now have 1093 people called, but not ridden
Finally the ride had a strong finish, calling groups 65 at 3:40 all the way to 127 at 8:05. Meaning after 3:40 until the ride closes, 6,200 More people need to ride. Adding this to the 1093 that were called earlier gives us a final count of 7293 people to ride. To get through 7293 people at 1,100 people an hour would take 397.87 minutes, or 6 hours and 37.5 minutes.
Between 3:40 and 9:00 PM is 5 hours and 20 minutes of time. Meaning there are still 1 hour and 17.5 minutes of riders waiting to ride at the end of the night. The ride would have to stop running at 10:17 to get through all the riders.
Yesterday, the ride operated from 9:15 to 2:10 (4 hours and 55 minutes)
Broke down from 2:10 to 3:40 (1 hour and 30 minutes of down time)
Finally it ran from 3:40 to 10:17 (6 hours and 37 minutes)
Therefore the ride ran yesterday 11 hours and 32 minutes.
I just realized there was a WAY easier way to calculate this number... 12,700 were called to ride. At 1,100 people per hour, it would take (12,700/1,100) 11.55 hours of operation to get through everyone...
Darkbeer1
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Want to avoid long lines, Disneyland fans? Be careful what you wish for
The move to virtual queues and Fastpass reservation systems adds to the stress of a day at a theme park.
www.ocregister.com
>>Just look at how rope drop has changed at Disneyland ever since Rise of the Resistance opened. What used to be an exhilarating moment of anticipation has become as stressful as the start of the Hunger Games. No one’s looking around at the park. Everyone is focused on their mobile phones, stabbing at their screens, trying to claim spaces in the virtual queue for Disney’s new Star Wars ride.
For those who get in, a moment of amplified exhilaration follows. But for those who don’t get a boarding group assignment, what was supposed to be a self-care day now starts with a dose of the anxiety and disappointment that many fans come to Disneyland to escape.<<
Phroobar
Well-Known Member
I wonder if that OC Register "reporter" lurks here.Want to avoid long lines, Disneyland fans? Be careful what you wish for
The move to virtual queues and Fastpass reservation systems adds to the stress of a day at a theme park.
>>Just look at how rope drop has changed at Disneyland ever since Rise of the Resistance opened. What used to be an exhilarating moment of anticipation has become as stressful as the start of the Hunger Games. No one’s looking around at the park. Everyone is focused on their mobile phones, stabbing at their screens, trying to claim spaces in the virtual queue for Disney’s new Star Wars ride.
For those who get in, a moment of amplified exhilaration follows. But for those who don’t get a boarding group assignment, what was supposed to be a self-care day now starts with a dose of the anxiety and disappointment that many fans come to Disneyland to escape.<<
shambolicdefending
Well-Known Member
Want to avoid long lines, Disneyland fans? Be careful what you wish for
The move to virtual queues and Fastpass reservation systems adds to the stress of a day at a theme park.
>>Just look at how rope drop has changed at Disneyland ever since Rise of the Resistance opened. What used to be an exhilarating moment of anticipation has become as stressful as the start of the Hunger Games. No one’s looking around at the park. Everyone is focused on their mobile phones, stabbing at their screens, trying to claim spaces in the virtual queue for Disney’s new Star Wars ride.
For those who get in, a moment of amplified exhilaration follows. But for those who don’t get a boarding group assignment, what was supposed to be a self-care day now starts with a dose of the anxiety and disappointment that many fans come to Disneyland to escape.<<
I like Robert Niles, but he's a little off on his approach here. This whole digital Hunger Games issue is not the guests' problem to solve. It's Disney's.
Although I do take some perverse pleasure in seeing all of the local APs finally get a taste of the planning stress that out-of-state visitors have experienced for quite some time.