Star Wars Launch Bay coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios later this year

Incomudro

Well-Known Member
I don't know about that completely. If The Force Awakens had gotten reviews comparing it to Phantom Menace the I think we would have a major SW problem. I think it is universally accepted that SW Ep1 was not too good. (I didn't mind it, it was wonderfully average). If it looked like this group was going to start off the same way, there could have been real ticket selling issues with the next SW movie in a few years.

Thankfully, things seem to be pointing to this movie being a HUGE success. But the entire new trilogy isn't or at least wasn't a lock to be gigantic. Certainly it would have been ok... but not gigantic.

Also remember that there was an outcry when Disney bought LucasFilm that Disney would ruin Star Wars... this looks good now, but certainly wasn't a lock.

I think it would have been a lock before the Abrams film. That is, if there were going to be no more films at all, a SW land would be.
I agree with you, that if The Force Awakens mired the franchise that at least as far as Disney investing in a new SW land was concerned - that they might have scrapped those plans.
 

boufa

Well-Known Member
I think it would have been a lock before the Abrams film. That is, if there were going to be no more films at all, a SW land would be.
I agree with you, that if The Force Awakens mired the franchise that at least as far as Disney investing in a new SW land was concerned - that they might have scrapped those plans.

Yes, a new SW land would be a lock if they didn't make any more movies. But a bad Episode 7, would have damaged the brand, perhaps beyond repair. If they were never able to reclaim the magic of the original movie or trilogy, after 2 additional attempts, the brand would have suffered. On the other hand, had they not tried the 3rd trilogy, they could have built SW land, with a focus on the original 3 movies, and kinda forgotten about the other 3.

I have some worry about avatar land. This is the opposite situation, and may or may not have played into the timing of SW land. In the case of avatar, the land isn't cannon, its just the land as I understand it. But what happens to the land if the sequels head the direction of the Matrix trilogy. What if the second and 3rd movies don't catch fire, does it take away from the land. I don't think so, IF it was build to be a visual and sensory experience, and IF the land is film independent.

Using the same type of timing as Avatar, imagine a SW land being built 10 years ago (or so) during production of the second trilogy... It might have a huge investment in the Pod Racer Ride and a Jar Jar Binks meet and greet. 2 -3 years later their would be tumble weed blowing down the streets of Nabu and people would be bored with it (at best).

Nothing is a lock, and timing is always easier in hindsight than in reality.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Having now checked this out this week.. I can give my first hand impressions.

Meh

It's actually not the staging that is the biggest let down but the displays themselves.

The ship models are ok and decent to look at... But the other costumes are aweful. They don't even attempt to look authentic like a costume. Elements like gloves and leather are pristine new. The helmets are just painted shells...with no real aging. It comes off so poorly... Then you get to the shop and you learn why... The stuff in the exhibits are just the stuff you can buy in the gift shop!

This thing is only suitable for anyone who wants the m&g with Vader, chewie, or the jawas. The jawas were pretty well done.

This is really a pretty weak effort. Honestly the wattos grotto shop which is an open stage with wall and shelf props had more character.... Tho neither approaches immersion. Grottos is just more dressed. Grottos has better shopping too
 

Spike-in-Berlin

Well-Known Member
I haven't been there since it opened but I watched videos at Youtube and at least the M+G Darth Vader I saw in the video was ABYSMAL! Never saw so such an unconvincing Darth Vader at any commercial show and I am not only talking about the costume. Far too small, far too slim, you cannot put an average built man in this costume for heavens sake, David Prowse is about 6 feet 5 inches, one reason why he got the role. And he was a bodybuilder. When they feature a Darth Vader M+G use CMs with the appropriate size or leave it.
 

prberk

Well-Known Member
I went to see Star Wars: The Force Awakens again last night, at a Regal Cinema, and they had a commercial before the movie for Walt Disney World, essentially showing the Studios as the place to be for Star Wars this spring. They showed the fireworks behind the Chinese Theatre and made it look like Walt Disney World (and especially the Studios although they did not say it) was pulling out all of the stops this year and essentially the new base for all things Star Wars....

It was a nice, simple commercial, and not over-the-top.. BUT I do think that the general public could easily begin to think that the "Star Wars land" that they have heard about in the news is already here.
 

ElvisMickey

Well-Known Member
Having now checked this out this week.. I can give my first hand impressions.

Meh

It's actually not the staging that is the biggest let down but the displays themselves.

The ship models are ok and decent to look at... But the other costumes are aweful. They don't even attempt to look authentic like a costume. Elements like gloves and leather are pristine new. The helmets are just painted shells...with no real aging. It comes off so poorly... Then you get to the shop and you learn why... The stuff in the exhibits are just the stuff you can buy in the gift shop!

This thing is only suitable for anyone who wants the m&g with Vader, chewie, or the jawas. The jawas were pretty well done.

This is really a pretty weak effort. Honestly the wattos grotto shop which is an open stage with wall and shelf props had more character.... Tho neither approaches immersion. Grottos is just more dressed. Grottos has better shopping too

This is what I don't understand. Who can get excited about replica anything? They should have nothing but authentic props and costumes. There really is no excuse for anything else.
 

Fox&Hound

Well-Known Member
I went to see Star Wars: The Force Awakens again last night, at a Regal Cinema, and they had a commercial before the movie for Walt Disney World, essentially showing the Studios as the place to be for Star Wars this spring. They showed the fireworks behind the Chinese Theatre and made it look like Walt Disney World (and especially the Studios although they did not say it) was pulling out all of the stops this year and essentially the new base for all things Star Wars....

It was a nice, simple commercial, and not over-the-top.. BUT I do think that the general public could easily begin to think that the "Star Wars land" that they have heard about in the news is already here.

So true! I had to convince a dad of a kid I tutor that Star Wars land was not already built. He was telling his son in front of me, "when we go down in two weeks they will have all these new rides for Star Wars." He turns to me "Disney bought Star Wars, you know."

I was like "Oh, I know. I read WDWMagic like it's the morning paper. Let me tell you, while they have some new "experiences", nothing new is being built for a few years..."
 

Fox&Hound

Well-Known Member
Yes, a new SW land would be a lock if they didn't make any more movies. But a bad Episode 7, would have damaged the brand, perhaps beyond repair. If they were never able to reclaim the magic of the original movie or trilogy, after 2 additional attempts, the brand would have suffered. On the other hand, had they not tried the 3rd trilogy, they could have built SW land, with a focus on the original 3 movies, and kinda forgotten about the other 3.

I have some worry about avatar land. This is the opposite situation, and may or may not have played into the timing of SW land. In the case of avatar, the land isn't cannon, its just the land as I understand it. But what happens to the land if the sequels head the direction of the Matrix trilogy. What if the second and 3rd movies don't catch fire, does it take away from the land. I don't think so, IF it was build to be a visual and sensory experience, and IF the land is film independent.

Using the same type of timing as Avatar, imagine a SW land being built 10 years ago (or so) during production of the second trilogy... It might have a huge investment in the Pod Racer Ride and a Jar Jar Binks meet and greet. 2 -3 years later their would be tumble weed blowing down the streets of Nabu and people would be bored with it (at best).

Nothing is a lock, and timing is always easier in hindsight than in reality.

In regards to Avatar, I truly believe that once Star Wars land is built, if they knock it out of the park, people will start to forgive the Avatar decision. I think people were so mad at the idea of them building Avatar when there were so many "better" properties Disney could build instead. When people can tour various worlds from Star Wars and hardcore fans see that WDW is investing heavily in the parks again, I think Avatar, and to some extent New Fantasy Land (which I've always loved and never understood the hate for), will be loved for what they are. NFL was never meant to be the game changer. Avatar, is certainly a risky bet, but I think it will pay off, especially as people discover AK at night. By building Avatar, designed to be viewed at night, we are getting a night show and we get to experience AK is a whole new "lack of" light. If they had built Beastly Kingdom instead, would the park still close at dusk???? We will have Avatar to thank for extended park hours and that is a gift I welcome. =)
 

prberk

Well-Known Member
This is what I don't understand. Who can get excited about replica anything? They should have nothing but authentic props and costumes. There really is no excuse for anything else.

I understand what you are saying, but I have to point out the inherent irony in the phrase "authentic props and costumes."

It seems the phrase itself is an oxymoron. It just struck me as funny.

Aren't props and costumes by definition replicas or play-acting?

I know you want the actual props used in the movie, but after all, isn't that the point of "Hollywood"? It's all make-believe and illusion.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
This is what I don't understand. Who can get excited about replica anything? They should have nothing but authentic props and costumes. There really is no excuse for anything else.

There is no need to have the new SW series props as those would be spoilers, At Skywalker ranch there are WAREHOUSES full of ORIGINAL SW stuff, But knowing Disney they are probably cataloging it all so they can auction it all off...

An Original R2-D2, Stormtrooper armor and weapons landspeeders etc heck even the 'mouse robot' which Chewie scared would have been cool items.

From this weekend's visit the 'Failure to Lauch Bay' was even worse than I anticipated, every detail was PAINTED any decent prop shop has blow molding gear so they could have made the surfaces 3 dimensional with little cost delta. It was so cheap and lifeless.
 

Travel Junkie

Well-Known Member
I went to see Star Wars: The Force Awakens again last night, at a Regal Cinema, and they had a commercial before the movie for Walt Disney World, essentially showing the Studios as the place to be for Star Wars this spring. They showed the fireworks behind the Chinese Theatre and made it look like Walt Disney World (and especially the Studios although they did not say it) was pulling out all of the stops this year and essentially the new base for all things Star Wars....

It was a nice, simple commercial, and not over-the-top.. BUT I do think that the general public could easily begin to think that the "Star Wars land" that they have heard about in the news is already here.

I saw Star Wars in LA and before the movie there was a commercial for the Harry Potter land coming to Universal Hollywood next year. I thought that was pretty funny.
 

ElvisMickey

Well-Known Member
There is no need to have the new SW series props as those would be spoilers, At Skywalker ranch there are WAREHOUSES full of ORIGINAL SW stuff, But knowing Disney they are probably cataloging it all so they can auction it all off...

An Original R2-D2, Stormtrooper armor and weapons landspeeders etc heck even the 'mouse robot' which Chewie scared would have been cool items.

From this weekend's visit the 'Failure to Lauch Bay' was even worse than I anticipated, every detail was PAINTED any decent prop shop has blow molding gear so they could have made the surfaces 3 dimensional with little cost delta. It was so cheap and lifeless.

Exactly. Everyone has their own opinion and to each their own, but to me what the Launch Bay has now would be the equivalent of Universal saying that they have a Harry Potter museum and when you walk in there, it's nothing but the wands that they're selling in the gift shops. The one piece that I really liked in the Launch Bay was Annakin's pod from Episode 1. Because it was the actual pod from Episode 1.
 

Lord_Vader

Join me, together we can rule the galaxy.
Exactly. Everyone has their own opinion and to each their own, but to me what the Launch Bay has now would be the equivalent of Universal saying that they have a Harry Potter museum and when you walk in there, it's nothing but the wands that they're selling in the gift shops. The one piece that I really liked in the Launch Bay was Annakin's pod from Episode 1. Because it was the actual pod from Episode 1.

Rey's speeder was either a very good replica or an actual set piece as well. The light sabers we very good replicas while some of the helmets were well done, some look like relatively cheap costume pieces.

Overall Launch Bay looks like a work in progress to me but here were some very nice touches such as the stormtroopers patrolling outside and the Jawas inside were a very nice touch. The stormtroopers were stopping random people asking for identification which was quite funny, my son did the Jedi mind trick and they responded accordingly. The Jawas were funny, were interested in my wife's wheels then tried to take BB8.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Exactly. Everyone has their own opinion and to each their own, but to me what the Launch Bay has now would be the equivalent of Universal saying that they have a Harry Potter museum and when you walk in there, it's nothing but the wands that they're selling in the gift shops. The one piece that I really liked in the Launch Bay was Annakin's pod from Episode 1. Because it was the actual pod from Episode 1.

The pod was a cool piece, I did not realize that it was a real prop.
 

Incomudro

Well-Known Member
That would be just as much as a let down in my opinion.

I can go into Party City or log on to Amazon and find Star Wars costumes, props and accessories. Just my two cents.

I don't believe Party City would have costumes up to the level of quality as those in launch bay.
I agree with your sentiment to an extent...
Screen used props would certainly be cool. That's something like Planet Hollywood does.
I would imagine Disney's approach to this is about a newness and presentation to the props and costumes which the real thing might not present.
 

dstrawn9889

Well-Known Member
Exactly. Everyone has their own opinion and to each their own, but to me what the Launch Bay has now would be the equivalent of Universal saying that they have a Harry Potter museum and when you walk in there, it's nothing but the wands that they're selling in the gift shops. The one piece that I really liked in the Launch Bay was Annakin's pod from Episode 1. Because it was the actual pod from Episode 1.
couldnt be, the pod was all CG, wasn't it? and obvs there wasnt TWO of them...
 

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