Star Wars Land Announcement This Month?

[PrincessNelly_NJ]

Yeah, I’m not saying I agree with the assessment that it Universal Sucks because it is not nostalgic for me. But for many people that nostalgia is a driving force in their decisions as to which park to go to. I don’t think that it is any better or worse of a reason than any other. And as great as the Potter stuff may be, its not nostalgic for most people over 30. I love Harry Potter. But the books came out when I was in my twenties, so the emotional connection isn’t there like it would be for things I’ve been watching/reading since I was a kid…..to bring it back on topic…like Star Wars.

So, no matter how much I like Harry Potter and no matter how great the rides they build are, a mediocre Star Wars land is more likely to get my money than a fantastic harry potter land. Because of nostalgia and emotional connection. That’s something that Comcast can’t throw money at. Only long and sustained growth and continued excellence over decades will get them that. I hope they can do it, because I want that competition to be there. But from that aspect, they are working with that disadvantage for the majority of the population.

And I'm the opposite. I like Star Wars but for me Harry Potter is more nostalgic and emotional. They don't have to throw money at it because what you have to realize is that Universal is building tomorrow's nostalgia. I actually remember more about going to Universal than I do about Disney when I went as a 4 year old.
I remember Nickelodeon Studios... watching my sister get slimed is something I'll never forget.

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

By the time its built Virgin Space will be flying you to the real planets

 

[Gomer]

And I'm the opposite. I like Star Wars but for me Harry Potter is more nostalgic and emotional. They don't have to throw money at it because what you have to realize is that Universal is building tomorrow's nostalgia. I actually remember more about going to Universal than I do about Disney when I went as a 4 year old.
I remember Nickelodeon Studios... watching my sister get slimed is something I'll never forget.

Exactly. And Universal won’t have a fighting chance in the nostalgia battle until people born before…let’s say 1980…are outnumbered by those born after. When that happens, the nostalgia war becomes a fair fight. For Universal to win that battle, they need to not only continue producing excellent attractions, but also making sure the themes and IP’s explored in their parks hit home for as wide a variety of people as possible. So, we’ll see what happens in 30 years or so. A lot can happen in that time. For all we know, both parks could be owned by the same company by that point.

 

[Chef Mickey]

Welp, it doesn't matter what anyone says... you have on blinders. You will make excuses for their failures but then say you are critical of them in the same statement.

I never said I was logical. I know I have blinders on, but I also know Disney is wiping the floor with Universal until further notice. Numbers don't lie...people love Disney. That doesn't mean it will always be true and Disney needs to step up their game. Both can be true at the same time.

 

[Chef Mickey]

Go read my trip report from last September. Now realize that after that fiasco we are sticking with our bounce back offer for this September. On top of that we are upgrading to APs. On top of that we are adding a few days onto the end of the vacation in which we will be off-site but still going to the parks. Then you can toss in the 3 (THREE) Halloween parties that we will be attending this year. We also already ordered our Memory Maker to boot. So to say that I haven't been impacted by Disney is not true. And that's saying a lot because I am the one that swore off Disney at the end of our last trip and I'm the one that got the family hooked in the first place.

I too would take Disney over Universal any given day of the week but to not give Universal the credit they are due is beyond foolish. It's almost comparable to saying that the Earth is flat in this day and age.

By the way, people like you are what is holding back TDO from making WDW the king of the hill that it once was. Your precious "nostalgia" is their main reason for not putting money into the parks. They figure that if "nostalgic" people keep coming then what's the point? I'll admit that I'm in that camp as well, but at least I realize that this isn't a one-horse race any more. Universal is quickly pulling up for the lead.

I already know I don't help because I go no matter what. However, Disney doesn't worry about me because it will take a huge amount and long term failure for me to stop going. They need to worry about Universal growing too large and affecting them in a negative way. Now, I'd argue they need to pare down the crowds and focus on improvement, expansion, and protecting the Disney experience. There are already too many people at the parks.

Arguing irrefutable science is a lot difference than an opinion, as irrational as you might believe. The numbers say Disney is the much preferred theme park destination, so I'm not alone in my opinion of preference. Louder, yes. Alone, no. The numbers back me up.

 

[PrincessNelly_NJ]

I never said I was logical. I know I have blinders on, but I also know Disney is wiping the floor with Universal until further notice. Numbers don't lie...people love Disney. That doesn't mean it will always be true and Disney needs to step up their game. Both can be true at the same time.

I can't... there are no words... have a good day @Chef Mickey!

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

Well at least its one bit of housekeeping & maintenance theyre not cutting.

 

[draybook]

I already know I don't help because I go no matter what. However, Disney doesn't worry about me because it will take a huge amount and long term failure for me to stop going. They need to worry about Universal growing too large and affecting them in a negative way. Now, I'd argue they need to pare down the crowds and focus on improvement, expansion, and protecting the Disney experience. There are already too many people at the parks.

Arguing irrefutable science is a lot difference than an opinion, as irrational as you might believe. The numbers say Disney is the much preferred theme park destination, so I'm not alone in my opinion of preference. Louder, yes. Alone, no. The numbers back me up.

Preferred doesn't always equal better though.

 

[DinoInstitute]

The thing that puzzles me is that the people that are "fighting for their side" really are not getting past the modern myth about the parks, such as Uni being not for kids, Disney being only for kids (which the latter personally drives me crazy), Disney is neglecting their theme parks, and either Uni is the leader of innovation or Uni has second rate attractions. If you are going to fight for your side, make a convincing case!!

Oh, and to respond to @PrincessNelly_NJ, I do have emotional memories and attachments to Uni...but not posotive ones

 

[DinoInstitute]

And I'm the opposite. I like Star Wars but for me Harry Potter is more nostalgic and emotional. They don't have to throw money at it because what you have to realize is that Universal is building tomorrow's nostalgia. I actually remember more about going to Universal than I do about Disney when I went as a 4 year old.
I remember Nickelodeon Studios... watching my sister get slimed is something I'll never forget.

Uni will never build the future nostalgia as long as Disney is around. The reason for that is Disney is stereotyped as the children park, so people will take their children to Disney instead, causing all the fond little memories to form there. And idk anyone who gets pleasuring feelings from thinking back at Shrek or slime...

The only way to settle this is for Disney and Uni to go to nuclear war

 

[cw1982]

The thing that puzzles me is that the people that are "fighting for their side" really are not getting past the modern myth about the parks, such as Uni being not for kids, Disney being only for kids (which the latter personally drives me crazy), Disney is neglecting their theme parks, and either Uni is the leader of innovation or Uni has second rate attractions. If you are going to fight for your side, make a convincing case!!

Oh, and to respond to @PrincessNelly_NJ, I do have emotional memories and attachments to Uni...but not posotive ones

FWIW, when I said that DH felt like there wasn't much geared towards adults at WDW, I wasn't trying to go so far as to say that there is nothing there for us. We loved several of the rides there, and we had a blast experiencing other things at each park, like WS, the different walks at AK, and enjoying a monster funnel cake at HS lol. In fact, DH even has favorite rides at each park. He loves EE, ToT, RnRC, Test Track, BTMRR, Space, and Splash (which is hilarious to me, because Splash definitely has a lot to it that appeals to kids). But, he did feel like the roller coasters just weren't as big and bad as the ones we have ridden at Uni. I definitely agree that neither is completely "kiddie" or "for adults," but if someone is looking for bigger thrills, Uni may be a better choice, while those who want more for their kids to do with a few thrills thrown in may be happier at WDW.

PS: I could spend all day in MK so that I could really take in FL lol... If I could afford it, I would totally plan a solo day out there just so I could relive some of my faves from childhood without DH being bored the whole time.

 

[cw1982]

The only way to settle this is for Disney and Uni to go to nuclear war

Nuclear war? Lol!

 

[DinoInstitute]

Nuclear war? Lol!

Ok, well perhaps theres an easier way, but not a single person on this forum has said it yet, so we have to keep our options open....

im jk of course

 

[Chef Mickey]

Preferred doesn't always equal better though.

No question. For others, Universal is better. For me, it's still Disney. That's clear, I know. Just pointing out I'm not alone.

Best example outside the theme park business are cell phones. Apple clearly no longer makes the best phone, but it's still the preferred device and for some, the best device.

 

[Chef Mickey]

I can't... there are no words... have a good day @Chef Mickey!

Even silly gifs don't dispute the numbers. Disney's biggest problem right now is they are too popular and it's hurting their ability to change because management can't get out of their own way. Universal is in acquisition mode because they are trying to get on Disney's level. Still, Disney added more net guests to MK than Universal did. Darn those facts!!

 

[draybook]

The thing that puzzles me is that the people that are "fighting for their side" really are not getting past the modern myth about the parks, such as Uni being not for kids, Disney being only for kids (which the latter personally drives me crazy), Disney is neglecting their theme parks, and either Uni is the leader of innovation or Uni has second rate attractions. If you are going to fight for your side, make a convincing case!!

Oh, and to respond to @PrincessNelly_NJ, I do have emotional memories and attachments to Uni...but not posotive ones

My only problem with this is that there doesn't have to be a side.......

 

[cw1982]

My only problem with this is that there doesn't have to be a side.......

That, and it's funny to me how so many threads that don't start out as a debate about which park is better end in that very question. I'm not sure I understand why people are so determined to argue about this lol.

 

[draybook]

No question. For others, Universal is better. For me, it's still Disney. That's clear, I know. Just pointing out I'm not alone.

Best example outside the theme park business are cell phones. Apple clearly no longer makes the best phone, but it's still the preferred device and for some, the best device.

There's a difference between saying that you prefer Disney over Universal and saying that Universal flat out "sucks". It doesn't suck, and it's annual gain shows that. it's just not the park that you prefer. No biggy.

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

Even silly gifs don't dispute the numbers. Disney's biggest problem right now is they are too popular and it's hurting their ability to change because management can't get out of their own way. Universal is in acquisition mode because they are trying to get on Disney's level. Still, Disney added more net guests to MK than Universal did. Darn those facts!!

McDonalds is quite popular too I believe.

Hmmm an air of familiarity, or should that be stench...................

 

[danlb_2000]

I never said I was logical. I know I have blinders on, but I also know Disney is wiping the floor with Universal until further notice. Numbers don't lie...people love Disney. That doesn't mean it will always be true and Disney needs to step up their game. Both can be true at the same time.

WDW has more guests and is making higher revenue then Uni, that can't be disputed, but Uni is turning out attractions that are just a good if not better then what Disney has which is what is really important to guests.