Star Wars Land announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios

[FigmentFan82]

In my original post, I was referring to the movies where it doesn't exist. The books and comics are irrelevant and few bought them. Even Lucasfilms decided to obliterate the expanded Star Wars Universe where it didn't suit them.

In your post you write "Batuu doesn't exist if you don't visit Disney Star Wars in the theme parks."

It was refuted because it's not true. And now you're backpedaling.

 

[FigmentFan82]

Considering how few people actually know what it is, it might as well be exclusive to the park...

"Might as well" is not relevant when it's not factually true. Just stating the FACT is that Batuu exists in other mediums outside the parks.

 

[Jones14]

Who’s to say Batuu doesn’t make an appearance in a future show or movie? Even Coruscant was part of books in the EU long before it was seen in The Phantom Menace, and now it’s one of the most well-known planets in the universe.

 

[DanielBB8]

Who’s to say Batuu doesn’t make an appearance in a future show or movie? Even Coruscant was part of books in the EU long before it was seen in The Phantom Menace, and now it’s one of the most well-known planets in the universe.

Since they set Batuu between Episodes 8 and 9, how likely will they change the timeline to fit a future episode or movie? It's quite comical that even a Cantina on Batuu wasn't filmed when Episode 7, A Force Awakens, had a Cantina scene in Maz Kanata’s Castle. The Last Jedi had Canto Bight casino. The time to add Batuu should have taken place in Rise of Skywalker at least.

 

[FigmentFan82]

Since they set Batuu between Episodes 8 and 9, how likely will they change the timeline to fit a future episode or movie? It's quite comical that even a Cantina on Batuu wasn't filmed when Episode 7, A Force Awakens, had a Cantina scene in Maz Kanata’s Castle. The Last Jedi had Canto Bight casino. The time to add Batuu should have taken place in Rise of Skywalker at least.

Batuu is a place, not a time period. So Batuu could show up in any future movie/tv show/book/comic/video game if it fits the story.
Galaxy's Edge which is the land in the parks is what seems to be intent on being set in a very specific time period. That of course could change.

That being said, yes there are many things about GE that could have been designed better

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

WDI didn’t make the wrong choices, the Bob’s did. And their wrong choices aren’t going to be fixed as easily as adding a BGM loop and some walk-around characters. That will improve atmosphere, but they still under built it. As with NFL, 2 attractions is pathetically underwhelming for the amount of money spent.

And Toy Story Land.

And Pandora.

And Cars Land (basically).

And Avengers Campus.

They each have their varying degrees of success, but attraction count is basically insufficient for all. Especially when you consider the size of the budgets.

 

[HauntedPirate]

And Toy Story Land.

And Pandora.

And Cars Land (basically).

And Avengers Campus.

They each have their varying degrees of success, but attraction count is basically insufficient for all. Especially when you consider the size of the budgets.

Hmmm... And what’s the common thread with all of these? Approved under Iger. Being such a creative genius, I wonder how many trees he’s suggested adding to Imagineers over the years...

 

[Mac Tonight]

Hmmm... And what’s the common thread with all of these? Approved under Iger. Being such a creative genius, I wonder how many trees he’s suggested adding to Imagineers over the years...

The words, "Iger" and "creative genius" should never belong in the same sentence.

Unless that sentence is, "Bob Iger is most definitely NOT a creative genius".

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Hmmm... And what’s the common thread with all of these? Approved under Iger. Being such a creative genius, I wonder how many trees he’s suggested adding to Imagineers over the years...

I said something the other day in another thread about guests noticing when a big new land touted on its acreage features only 1.75 new attractions.

You'd think the fact that their billion-dollar "Star Wars Land" didn't print money would begin the reckoning of their creative pipeline.

 

[Mac Tonight]

And Toy Story Land.

And Pandora.

And Cars Land (basically).

And Avengers Campus.

They each have their varying degrees of success, but attraction count is basically insufficient for all. Especially when you consider the size of the budgets.

Do we know which comes first? The desired number of attractions (from which an overall "land" budget is drawn up), or an overall "land" budget (from which the desired number of attractions is conceived)?

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

The words, "Iger" and "creative genius" should never belong in the same sentence.

Unless that sentence is, "Bob Iger is most definitely NOT a creative genius".

Ooh, hey, be careful - you somehow quoted me as saying what @HauntedPirate said. And I would NEVER let those words share a post, even sarcastically

 

[HauntedPirate]

Do we know which comes first? The desired number of attractions (from which an overall "land" budget is drawn up), or an overall "land" budget (from which the desired number of attractions is conceived)?

First comes the idea to shove an IP in somewhere. Then a rough budget, followed by an ROI. Finally, they cut the budget to make their money back faster. Worked like a charm with SW:GE, didn’t it?

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Do we know which comes first? The desired number of attractions (from which an overall "land" budget is drawn up), or an overall "land" budget (from which the desired number of attractions is conceived)?

Presumably, a creative proposal has to be in place before a budget can be assigned to it - you don't just throw a Billion dollars at WDI and say "spend that on Star Wars and see what you can do".

But then, it's far from unheard of for attractions to be cut (or cut down) in the wake of budget concerns. Pandora was meant to have an E-Ticket Coaster. Seven Dwarfs Mine Train was meant to be almost twice as long. Toy Story Land was gonna have more placemaking and a longer coaster. So sometimes you get the project approved, the budget approved, and then you go back and edit the project to match the budget as reality starts pouring in.

(Sometimes the budgets get edited after approval, too)

 

[HauntedPirate]

I said something the other day in another thread about guests noticing when a big new land touted on its acreage features only 1.75 new attractions.

You'd think the fact that their billion-dollar "Star Wars Land" didn't print money would begin the reckoning of their creative pipeline.

Or with the executives who approved it.

 

[Mac Tonight]

Ooh, hey, be careful - you somehow quoted me as saying what @HauntedPirate said. And I would NEVER let those words share a post, even sarcastically

Ooooops.

I was actually replying to a different post of yours, but then I saw their post, tried to double quote and and got all messed up... my bad

 

[Mac Tonight]

Presumably, a creative proposal has to be in place before a budget can be assigned to it - you don't just throw a Billion dollars at WDI and say "spend that on Star Wars and see what you can do".

But then, it's far from unheard of for attractions to be cut (or cut down) in the wake of budget concerns. Pandora was meant to have an E-Ticket Coaster. Seven Dwarfs Mine Train was meant to be almost twice as long. Toy Story Land was gonna have more placemaking and a longer coaster. So sometimes you get the project approved, the budget approved, and then you go back and edit the project to match the budget as reality starts pouring in.

(Sometimes the budgets get edited after approval, too)

That's true. Though I could (strangely) easily imagine Iger sitting in a meeting with Chapek saying, "I want Star Wars in the parks, and I'm comfortable earmarking around a billion for it... now go make it happen." And the rest is history...

I just wonder when it became that way. You always hear/read anecdotal stories of Walt wanting X (for the parks and the company), and Roy having to work his financial magic in order to make it happen. I daresay if the current WDC or WDI were handed the original plans to Walt's Disneyland, it would be a mere shadow of what we know and (mostly) love today.

 

[Mac Tonight]

First comes the idea to shove an IP in somewhere. Then a rough budget, followed by an ROI. Finally, they cut the budget to make their money back faster. Worked like a charm with SW:GE, didn’t it?

This is the way.

 

[Kram Sacul]

Fake insider rumors, adding OT characters and the usual bitter SW “fans”. This thread never fails to entertain. It’s so dense.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Adventureland only ever had two *rides.* A paltry showing and a shame to Disney.

Until Aladdins Carpets came and made it a truly fleshed-out and complete land... one of the best, now with *three* rides!!

 

[Kram Sacul]

Adventureland only ever had two *rides.* A paltry showing and a shame to Disney.

Until Aladdins Carpets came and made it a truly fleshed-out and complete land... one of the best, now with *three* rides!!

Disgraceful. Just like New Orleans Square which opened with one ride and a bunch of shops. A Pirate themed mall. Terrible. They should’ve fired everyone.