Star Wars Land announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios

Jones14

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I do think it is a very odd missed opportunity to not use R2-D2 or C-3PO in the land though.
I have a video with R2 from inside the droid depot when we went, but agreed on C-3PO! I guess they’re assuming that guests get their fill of him on Star Tours, but they have the costume already, so I don’t see why they don’t toss him out for some roaming sets (aside from $$, that is).
 

RobWDW1971

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I have a video with R2 from inside the droid depot when we went, but agreed on C-3PO! I guess they’re assuming that guests get their fill of him on Star Tours, but they have the costume already, so I don’t see why they don’t toss him out for some roaming sets (aside from $$, that is).

R2D2 is a for sale robot operated by a merch cast member that can’t leave the retail store. Better than nothing, but really Disney?
 
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Tom Morrow

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My ulterior motive is, as a paying customer, I demand quality and ACCOUNTABILITY from the company I am handing over cash to.
They built a land bigger and scope and with more detail than any land ever created. A land we would never have even dreamed of 10 years ago. But visiting there is apparently worse than death to a very overly vocal minority because of a handful of criticisms. I even agree that some of the criticisms are valid. A couple of fixable missteps and unfortunate entertainment cuts does not somehow turn a project like this into "a disaster. A DISASTER!"

Why would any of us creative a false narrative...? What would I gain from that? Actually answer that for me. Logically.
I'm alleging that a handful of you have been so relentlessly vocal, as in, the absolute worst I've ever seen in over 20 years (sigh) of posting on theme park fan forums, that it's possible you are posting on behalf of someone else because it benefits some people if Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge is perceived as a miserable failure that "everyone hates."

It’s not a small percentage. It’s a large percentage. Disney installed a digital queue that was used for a few hours one day. They over built hotels to handle the crowds. They changed the dang roads to handle an influx in crowds!!! Operating hours were extended to the wee hours of the morning, but the crowds were light. Hotels were majorly discounted- chase, passholders, residents... it was shocking! Over in California they built a parking structure, increased ticket sales, widened almost every pathway... they spent MILLIONS on infrastructure... but few came. They fired executives and slashed entertainment. They shoved Galaxy’s Edge into every square inch of their owned television channels in a last minute attempt to change the course.

But word of mouth has more power than propaganda. Word of mouth stung this time.

So, no, it’s not a small portion babe.
The truth is somewhere in the middle. Disney over-anticipated it's success by preparing for the single biggest theme park opening in the history of theme parks, despite encouraging people not to come, despite not opening all of it at the same time and delaying the more anticipated ride at that, despite blocking many people from being able to go. They then inexplicably freaked out when people didn't go after telling them to not go, and that the reservation system for the land, a land with absolutely massive walking space, have not yet been used. So it's under-performing by the insanely high bar that Disney themselves set for it. This does not mean it's a ghost town or a miserable failure that everyone hates, yet everyone who WANTS it to fail has taken this information and exaggerated it exponentially.
 

Jones14

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R2D2 is a for sale robot operated by a merch cast member that can’t leave the retail store. Better than nothing, but really Disneyland?
I mean, sure, but wouldn’t one expect to be able to find a droid in the droid shop? Them selling R2 replicas didn’t change the experience of getting to meet R2D2 for us or anyone around us.

That’s not to say I don’t see where you’re coming from, but for all practical purposes, you *can* meet R2. He just shouldn’t be the only one you can meet at present.
 

Mickeyboof

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It absolutely is not. You clearly have not actually been there and are making a strong case for my allegations.

Perhaps you're confusing it with Hagrid's Magical Creatures Motorbike Adventure?

Hagrid’s isn’t a land. And it takes place inside a forest. Frankly, I expect pine trees.

Sure there’s great rockwork. We’ve seen the same size and scale with Cars Land and Pandora.

Comparatively, the scope and details of New Orleans Square still blows Galaxy’s Edge out of the water.
 

Tom Morrow

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Hagrid’s isn’t a land. And it takes place inside a forest. Frankly, I expect pine trees.

Sure there’s great rockwork. We’ve seen the same size and scale with Cars Land and Pandora.

Comparatively, the scope and details of New Orleans Square still blows Galaxy’s Edge out of the water.
Actually the Forbidden Forest is depicted as having massive oak trees (or something like them I dunno) with huge trunks and sprawling, tangled roots, not rows of identical pine trees planted in straight lines.

The fact that you're only referencing what makes up the visual borders of the land (a hill of pine trees on one end and rockwork on the other) really tells me you haven't actually been there because there's a heck of a lot of detail in between those things.
 
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Disney Maddux

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They built a land bigger and scope and with more detail than any land ever created. A land we would never have even dreamed of 10 years ago. But visiting there is apparently worse than death to a very overly vocal minority because of a handful of criticisms. I even agree that some of the criticisms are valid. A couple of fixable missteps and unfortunate entertainment cuts does not somehow turn a project like this into "a disaster. A DISASTER!"


I'm alleging that a handful of you have been so relentlessly vocal, as in, the absolute worst I've ever seen in over 20 years (sigh) of posting on theme park fan forums, that it's possible you are posting on behalf of someone else because it benefits some people if Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge is perceived as a miserable failure that "everyone hates."


The truth is somewhere in the middle. Disney over-anticipated it's success by preparing for the single biggest theme park opening in the history of theme parks, despite encouraging people not to come, despite not opening all of it at the same time and delaying the more anticipated ride at that, despite blocking many people from being able to go. They then inexplicably freaked out when people didn't go after telling them to not go, and that the reservation system for the land, a land with absolutely massive walking space, have not yet been used. So it's under-performing by the insanely high bar that Disney themselves set for it. This does not mean it's a ghost town or a miserable failure that everyone hates, yet everyone who WANTS it to fail has taken this information and exaggerated it exponentially.
Tom Morrow - +100 XP, +1000 Respect
 

Mickeyboof

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Actually the Forbidden Forest is depicted as having massive oak trees (or something like them I dunno) with huge trunks and sprawling, tangled roots, not rows of identical pine trees planted in straight lines.

The fact that you're only referencing what makes up the visual borders of the land (a hill of pine trees on one end and rockwork on the other) really tells me you haven't actually been there because there's a heck of a lot of detail in between those things.

Yeah, Hagrid’s Forest is a Christmas tree farm. Totally correct.

I’ve been there a lot. Sorry, but as a poster earlier said- a hamlet from the prequels hanging on a wall isn’t a great detail.
 

Tom Morrow

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Yeah, Hagrid’s Forest is a Christmas tree farm. Totally correct.

I’ve been there a lot. Sorry, but as a poster earlier said- a hamlet from the prequels hanging on a wall isn’t a great detail.
It literally does look like a Christmas tree farm though. I know you're all about that Universal PR and all though but seriously.

Also, yes, lets single out one detail and pretend like it's one of the only things.
 

Mickeyboof

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It literally does look like a Christmas tree farm though. I know you're all about that Universal PR and all though but seriously.

Also, yes, lets single out one detail and pretend like it's one of the only things.

I’ve rarely post about Universal!

Ugh I wish you were right though. I wish I had a motive here- even more I wish I were paid per post!!
 

Mike S

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It absolutely is not. You clearly have not actually been there and are making a strong case for my allegations.

Perhaps you're confusing it with Hagrid's Magical Creatures Motorbike Adventure?
Hagrid’s is still pretty amazing though. Next level for themed coasters imo. What I wouldn’t give to have something like it in Galaxy’s Edge riding either a Landspeeder or Speeder Bikes 😍
 

Tom Morrow

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Hagrid’s is still pretty amazing though. Next level for themed coasters imo.
Hagrid's is a great and really fun ride, but I wouldn't rank it as next level for theming. The landscaping is mostly the aforementioned rows of evergreens, it looks like a manicured garden more than the forbidden forest. The show scenes are somewhat lackluster, with the mechanical bull spinning rubber Blast-Ended Skrewt on a pole, the scarce sets in between, the big giant show building with trees panted on it instead of proper rockwork, the interior of the drop track building being somewhat scarce on details. Oh, and the visible backstage and infrastructure. Something like the 40 year old Big Thunder Mountain blows it away at least for theming and immersion.
 

Markiewong

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Guys, timelines isn’t the problem with galaxy’s edge. WWOHP suffer from way more restrictions than Galaxy’s Edge do, plus they are locked in with the old movies aswell, preventing Fantastic Beast from entering the land, ever. I would argue the biggest problem with GE is the ratio of attractions versus shops. It feels like one of the most detailed shopping malls in the universe without ROTR.
 

erasure fan1

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I've seen complaints of the Mandalorian being fanservice-y and such. I don't know, I haven't watched it myself yet.
In my eyes, fan service isn't a negative. It's what drives these type of IPs forward. No one wants generic sci-fi movie, they want star wars. If you like Rouge one like you said, you should love the Mandalorian. My complaint of Galaxys edge has always been about better representation of the complete saga. You can give me new and different, like black spire, all day long. But without some well thought out fan sevice, it might just feel hollow to a lot of people. And I think that did happen.
 

Mike S

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Guys, timelines isn’t the problem with galaxy’s edge. WWOHP suffer from way more restrictions than Galaxy’s Edge do, plus they are locked in with the old movies aswell, preventing Fantastic Beast from entering the land, ever. I would argue the biggest problem with GE is the ratio of attractions versus shops. It feels like one of the most detailed shopping malls in the universe without ROTR.
Fantastic Beasts is going to the new park. it’s what’s in the top right that kind of looks like Diagon Alley.
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Honestly though, I think I speak for most when I say I wouldn’t have missed it if it never ended up getting built. Crimes of Grindelwald... Yikes. At least it could be a fun land though. Maybe.
 
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Tom Morrow

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Guys, timelines isn’t the problem with galaxy’s edge. WWOHP suffer from way more restrictions than Galaxy’s Edge do, plus they are locked in with the old movies aswell, preventing Fantastic Beast from entering the land, ever. I would argue the biggest problem with GE is the ratio of attractions versus shops. It feels like one of the most detailed shopping malls in the universe without ROTR.
The ratio is actually worse in Diagon Alley: 12 shops to 1.5 rides vs Galaxy's Edge's 8 shops to 2 rides. Approximately the same number of F&B locations at both.
 

erasure fan1

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I would argue the biggest problem with GE is the ratio of attractions versus shops. It feels like one of the most detailed shopping malls in the universe without ROTR.
It all stems from opening early. Disney greed unfortunately took over, and won out over the experience. The land had no business opening, in my opinion, without the headline signature attraction. I've always said, a great attraction, will mask a lot of flaws. And if rise is as advertised, a lot of people will forget that the land has some issues. As they say, you only have one chance to make a first impression. And unfortunately the first impression was like you said, a well themed shopping mall. Coupled with the issues that we've all talked about, it's a recipe for mediocrity.
 

doctornick

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Guys, timelines isn’t the problem with galaxy’s edge. WWOHP suffer from way more restrictions than Galaxy’s Edge do, plus they are locked in with the old movies aswell, preventing Fantastic Beast from entering the land, ever. I would argue the biggest problem with GE is the ratio of attractions versus shops. It feels like one of the most detailed shopping malls in the universe without ROTR.

As has been mentioned, I'd argue that it is the same with Diagon Alley - limited actual attractions, mostly just shops and "stuff to look at". In fact, especially as I consider Gingrotts to be a disappointing attraction, this has actually been a complaint from me at least since day 1 of that land.
 

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