News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

[britain]

Seriously though, as I indicated I think they are formulating plans, but I think its very early days and I have serious doubts that any or even half of the stuff posted here will come to fruition. It really does sound like a brainstorming session notes.

I think what is probably true is that WDI leadership has shifted from “Don’t you dare suggest changing timeline - that’s something only Entertainment can overlay temporarily” to “Ok everyone, we’ll welcome your suggestions to make the land better, even if it means getting rid of the timeline, new planets, you won’t be reprimanded, we promise!”

That doesn’t mean anything is gonna happen.

 

[Disney Irish]

I think what is probably true is that WDI leadership has shifted from “Don’t you dare suggest changing timeline - that’s something only Entertainment can overlay temporarily” to “Ok everyone, we’ll welcome your suggestions to make the land better, even if it means getting rid of the timeline, new planets, you won’t be reprimanded, we promise!”

That doesn’t mean anything is gonna happen.

Agreed, I think they have an intent to update the land, but I think there are no actual plans as of yet. Its very early in the process and anything that was suggested here, if true, is likely to change and not actually be done as it was presented.

 

[MisterPenguin]

There's no crack. It's simply cross-marketing and synergy. A new show or movie comes out and they market it with characters or temporary overlays.

The short-term synergy and money gain is more important than continuity, but it doesn't mean that Disney is going to abandon their $4B dollar purchase to revert the land back to the George Lucas era of things or have anything in the land that Disney didn't create themselves.......or was in Disney-created media (like Chewbacca or R2-D2, etc.).

I personally don't care if some rando creates a new account and says they have "inside information". There's no vetting, there's no history.....nothing. I could do the same exact thing on a lazy Sunday.

I would guess they probably have a trusted blogger/vlogger/podcaster they watch or listen to that has said these things and probably was correct once or twice (a stopped clock is right twice a day) in the past or claims to have their own inside informants or whatever.

If in 10 years there is a Star Wars Galaxy filled with 5 OG era mini-lands, I'll be happy to eat crow and buy everyone a Tatooine Sunset.

I do believe GE has underperformed and I also believe changes will be coming, but not those changes.

You just completely ignored the news from Disney themselves that the MF ride will become Groguized.

You don't need an insider when Disney is announcing an end to the sequel lock.

 

[DavidDL]

You just completely ignored the news from Disney themselves that the MF ride will become Groguized.

You don't need an insider when Disney is announcing an end to the sequel lock.

As of right now that announcement just means Mando and Grogu are confirmed alive between the events of Episodes 8 and 9. Which is something we already knew after they started wandering the land as characters. Their presence within the land or Smuggler's Run does not yet mean an end to the time lock between those two sequel Episodes. Unless, of course, something unreconcilable happens to either of them during the events of the upcoming Mando/Grogu film (their show/movie takes place 20 some odd years before the time lock on Batuu).

Don't get me wrong, I have a feeling the time lock will inevitably die for good, someday. But as of the writing of this post, nothing about Mando/Grogu being in Batuu or playing a role in Smuggler's Run currently "breaks canon" for the Sequel Trilogy lock in Galaxy's Edge.

 

[MisterPenguin]

As of right now that announcement just means Mando and Grogu are confirmed alive between the events of Episodes 8 and 9.

According to Perplexity...

The Mandalorian is set in the Star Wars timeline approximately five years after the events of "Return of the Jedi" (Episode VI), which is designated as 4 ABY (After the Battle of Yavin). This places the series around 9 ABY. Additionally, it occurs 25 years before "The Force Awakens" (Episode VII), which is set in 34 ABY.In this period, the Empire has fallen, and the New Republic is being established, although remnants of the Empire still pose challenges to the galaxy's new order. The show explores a largely uncharted timeframe within the Star Wars universe, allowing for new stories and character interactions before the rise of the First Order.Overall, The Mandalorian serves as a bridge between the original trilogy and the sequel trilogy, providing a backdrop for various character arcs and potential future developments in the franchise.

 

[DavidDL]

According to Perplexity...

The Mandalorian is set in the Star Wars timeline approximately five years after the events of "Return of the Jedi" (Episode VI), which is designated as 4 ABY (After the Battle of Yavin). This places the series around 9 ABY. Additionally, it occurs 25 years before "The Force Awakens" (Episode VII), which is set in 34 ABY.In this period, the Empire has fallen, and the New Republic is being established, although remnants of the Empire still pose challenges to the galaxy's new order. The show explores a largely uncharted timeframe within the Star Wars universe, allowing for new stories and character interactions before the rise of the First Order.Overall, The Mandalorian serves as a bridge between the original trilogy and the sequel trilogy, providing a backdrop for various character arcs and potential future developments in the franchise.

This post does nothing to disprove my point. It's only repeating what I've already said. The Mandalorian (the show) and Mando and Grogu (the movie), all that stuff takes place 20 some odd years before the Sequel Trilogy.

So how does that in any way prove that the characters being on Batuu or featured in Smuggler's Run break the time lock? Are you inferring that the Mandalorian and Grogu are not going to live another 25 years? Them being in Galaxy's Edge as of right now doesn't mean anything other than they are both 25 years older than when we've last seen them in their respective shows/movie. How are Mando/Grogu being featured as walk around characters or on Smuggler's Run any different than Chewbacca? Does Chewbacca taking part in Prequel and Original Trilogy events mean the time lock has been broken since Day 1? Because that seems to be the logic you're trying to follow.

Like I said, unless something unreconcilable happens (like one of them dying) in the upcoming film, then the time lock is not yet broken.

 

[Disney Irish]

This post does nothing to disprove my point. It's only repeating what I've already said. The Mandalorian (the show) and Mando and Grogu (the movie), all that stuff takes place 20 some odd years before the Sequel Trilogy.

So how does that in any way prove that the characters being on Batuu or featured in Smuggler's Run break the time lock? Are you inferring that the Mandalorian and Grogu are not going to live another 25 years? Them being in Galaxy's Edge as of right now doesn't mean anything other than they are both 25 years older than when we've last seen them in their respective shows/movie. How are Mando/Grogu being featured as walk around characters or on Smuggler's Run any different than Chewbacca? Does Chewbacca taking part in Prequel and Original Trilogy events mean the time lock has been broken since Day 1? Because that seems to be the logic you're trying to follow.

Like I said, unless something unreconcilable happens (like one of them dying) in the upcoming film, then the time lock is not yet broken.

Well I highly doubt that a young Din and a young Grogu, which is what it appears in concept art, would still be young by the time of Ep8 and Ep9 happens. As that would put Din at 60ish years old, and Grogu 80-90ish years old. So something tells me this is the beginning of them permanently breaking the "time lock" of the land, rather than the previous exceptions with the walk-around versions of the characters.

 

[chadwpalm]

You just completely ignored the news from Disney themselves that the MF ride will become Groguized.

You don't need an insider when Disney is announcing an end to the sequel lock.

I haven't ignored anything. I watched the D23 announcement and I am fully versed in SW lore and when the shows take place. The update to MF fits my explanation about synergy and marketing. It is scheduled to change over at the same time the movie comes out. This cross-marketing isn't anything different than Mando/Grogu and Ahsoka/Sabine making appearances when their respective shows came out.

There was no official length of time given to the change either, but it will most likely be for several months while the movie makes it's theatrical run. I don't anticipate it being permanent, but we'll see.

Well I highly doubt that a young Din and a young Grogu, which is what it appears in concept art, would still be young by the time of Ep8 and Ep9 happens. As that would put Din at 60ish years old, and Grogu 80-90ish years old. So something tells me this is the beginning of them permanently breaking the "time lock" of the land, rather than the previous exceptions with the walk-around versions of the characters.

I was going to mention this issue in my last post. Din could even be as young as in his 50's (as he's supposed to only be in his 30's in the show) and we've never seen a Yoda/Grogu species at that young of an age, but if they live to 900 then they could be young for many years. Din hasn't taken off his mask in the land and probably won't on the ride either.

That said, I don't particularly think they will or won't be older on the attraction, but again, I ultimately think it is more about synergy than trying to reconcile time periods or that it is a sign that we are closer to removing the time lock.

As I said before, Disney has spent way too much time and money into making this land fit in the period it is in. I don't see fundamental shifts until either Kathleen Kennedy is gone, or she has some sort of change of heart about deconstructing George Lucas' lore in every project that comes out.

 

[Disney Irish]

I haven't ignored anything. I watched the D23 announcement and I am fully versed in SW lore and when the shows take place. The update to MF fits my explanation about synergy and marketing. It is scheduled to change over at the same time the movie comes out. This cross-marketing isn't anything different than Mando/Grogu and Ahsoka/Sabine making appearances when their respective shows came out.

There was no official length of time given to the change either, but it will most likely be for several months while the movie makes it's theatrical run. I don't anticipate it being permanent, but we'll see.

I doubt they go through the expense of adding a new mission to Smugglers only for it to be temporary. Also Mando/Grogu still appear in the land from time-to-time, as recently as July/August after Seasons was over, so again don't feel that is temporary either.

I was going to mention this issue in my last post. Din could even be as young as in his 50's (as he's supposed to only be in his 30's in the show) and we've never seen a Yoda/Grogu species at that young of an age, but if they live to 900 then they could be young for many years. Din hasn't taken off his mask in the land and probably won't on the ride either.

That said, I don't particularly think they will or won't be older on the attraction, but again, I ultimately think it is more about synergy than trying to reconcile time periods or that it is a sign that we are closer to removing the time lock.

As I said before, Disney has spent way too much time and money into making this land fit in the period it is in. I don't see fundamental shifts until either Kathleen Kennedy is gone, or she has some sort of change of heart about deconstructing George Lucas' lore in every project that comes out.

Yeah, but even at 80-90 yrs old Grogu would be talking and walking and such, since Yoda was a Jedi by 100 canonically, something I doubt they would add to the ride/land unless its now part of the story/movie. So again seems like they are leaning into breaking the "time lock".

You can still not believe that poster while still acknowledging what is actually happening within the land with announced projects. Also, not to start this whole thing in this thread, but KK is basically just a figure head at this point, Filoni has creative control over LFL specifically SW.

 

[BrianLo]

They’ve already walked away from the timeline. That became unhinged when Chapek stripped all the life out for the hotel.

Now this does not lead to the immediate (any day now) eviction of KK or swapping the characters in Rise… possibly ever.

But I do see more gravitation towards the Mando timeframe.

 

[Rich Brownn]

Star Tours could easily be replaced by Stitch, Black Panther's jet, or X-Men's Blackbird, heck even a Futurama express ship would be camp and fun. I hope it's finally changed to breathe some new life into that land.

I'll agree that Star Wars needs more rides, but they should go into the Star Wars lands moving forward.

None of those characters can be used by Disney in Florida (that pesky Universal contract)

 

[Phroobar]

.... they should go into the Star Wars lands moving forward.

Why?

 

[Disney Irish]

None of those characters can be used by Disney in Florida (that pesky Universal contract)

This would be for Disneyland's Star Tours, not Florida's, so if true those characters are able to be used in Disneyland. Also the Uni contract only limits some Marvel characters, the post also mentions some non-Marvel characters that doesn't have any limitation in Florida.

 

[Figments Friend]

Hot take -

Disneyland’s ‘Galaxy’s Edge’ is better then WDW’s.

I speak from experiencing both.
DLR , hands down.

It felt more ‘alive’ and ‘active’…and did not have the movie set wasteland feel I get the impression of when in Florida.
Plus, fireworks over the Black Spires to John Williams’ amazing music?
Oh heck yes…another plus!

Disneyland for the win, yet again.



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[coffeefan]

This would be for Disneyland's Star Tours, not Florida's, so if true those characters are able to be used in Disneyland. Also the Uni contract only limits some Marvel characters, the post also mentions some non-Marvel characters that doesn't have any limitation in Florida.

Another option is Fantastic 4. Marvel seems to be investing in that for the next phase of movies.

Why?

Because they have their own land now and may get a second land eventually. That only goes for rides though, attractions could go where they make more sense.
Just my opinion, I won't be bothered if things work out differently.

 

[Centauri Space Station]

Hot take -

Disneyland’s ‘Galaxy’s Edge’ is better then WDW’s.

I speak from experiencing both.
DLR , hands down.

It felt more ‘alive’ and ‘active’…and did not have the movie set wasteland feel I get the impression of when in Florida.
Plus, fireworks over the Black Spires to John Williams’ amazing music?
Oh heck yes…another plus!

Disneyland for the win, yet again.



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I think it feels off at DL. It’s too big compared to the rest of the park, you can see the matterhorn from inside and the land buildings from the treehouse, riding btm, and the boat. I noticed no more character interaction than DHS, but the area feels more like it belonged in the park

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

I couldn't care less about the timeline. Just improve the land and make it exciting and feel alive without having to be on either of the rides.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

Hot take -

Disneyland’s ‘Galaxy’s Edge’ is better then WDW’s.

I speak from experiencing both.
DLR , hands down.

It felt more ‘alive’ and ‘active’…and did not have the movie set wasteland feel I get the impression of when in Florida.
Plus, fireworks over the Black Spires to John Williams’ amazing music?
Oh heck yes…another plus!

Disneyland for the win, yet again.



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I experienced DL's version pre-Rise in Summer 2019, and that was my last time in any Disney park. I'll be back this summer in WDW, so I'll be able to share my opinions then.

 

[Disney Irish]

@britain just brought up a good point in another thread. There is a rumor of Disney wanting to build something in Texas, which sort of makes sense given Uni is now building a small experience there. So @britain brought up what if this multi-planet land rumor is really for whatever that is in Texas that Disney is considering rather than for DLR. That would make the most sense rather than trying to spend a whole lot to retheme a less than 10 year old land.

And then they could just improve what is here in GE and keep it an actual coherent land.

 

[britain]

@britain just brought up a good point in another thread. There is a rumor of Disney wanting to build something in Texas, which sort of makes sense given Uni is now building a small experience there. So @britain brought up what if this multi-planet land rumor is really for whatever that is in Texas that Disney is considering rather than for DLR. That would make the most sense rather than trying to spend a whole lot to retheme a less than 10 year old land.

And then they could just improve what is here in GE and keep it an actual coherent land.

Thanks @Disney Irish. For the record, I really doubt they’re actually doing anything in Texas. This was just my comment on what they could do if they were doing such a thing.