News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

[Disney Irish]

Nothing unfortunate about it. Being able to discuss the positives and negatives of Galaxy's Edge placement in Disneyland and it's creative execution- as well as Disney's era of Star Wars as a whole is directly relevant to not only Disneyland fans, but is the exact purpose of this discussion board.

Its the same debate from 2016, which is the unfortunate part, and the part in which I was responding to.

It unfortunate that its a debate that hasn't moved forward.

 

[SuddenStorm]

Its the same debate from 2016, which is the unfortunate part, and the part in which I was responding to.

It unfortunate that its a debate that hasn't moved forward.

I guess I must be remembering 2016 differently, since the debate then was far less nuanced and fleshed out than what's being debated today. Back then, the debate relied simply on whether Star Wars fits in Disneyland, and whether the lot of space provided and ROA redo would be worth it.

Now, we're able to dissect and discuss every element of the land except Rise of the Resistance as well as the impact Solo, The Last Jedi, and Rogue One have had on Disney's Star Wars.

 

[DanielBB8]

Its the same debate from 2016, which is the unfortunate part, and the part in which I was responding to.

It unfortunate that its a debate that hasn't moved forward.

It wasn’t opened in 2016. The debate isn’t quite the same since we’re comparing what we’re actually seeing in realtime.

 

[Disney Irish]

I guess I must be remembering 2016 differently, since the debate then was far less nuanced and fleshed out than what's being debated today. Back then, the debate relied simply on whether Star Wars fits in Disneyland, and whether the lot of space provided and ROA redo would be worth it.

Now, we're able to dissect and discuss every element of the land except Rise of the Resistance as well as the impact Solo, The Last Jedi, and Rogue One have had on Disney's Star Wars.

The debate might have become more nuanced, but its still the same debate. I respect your opinion, but this is just how I feel. We haven't really moved beyond, "SW:GE doesn't belong in DL" or "SW:GE fits in DL". All the nuance does is provide the details for each side to trench in more.

 

[DanielBB8]

If Batuu is not featured at all in Episode 9, the Rise of Skywalker, it will be a big fail of expectations that Batuu will be included as a location in the Star Wars movies. We will have to wait for the next trilogy that is rumored to be released in 2022. Or maybe we stopped caring. Definitely bait and switch. The next trilogy isn’t expected to include Kylo Ren and Rey.

 

[Zanebothdeeds]

This thread is about construction and now that the project is constructed I think it has run its course, jumped the shark and now deviated into a circle of arguments that belong in some other thread.

Changing the title of the thread is an unfortunate attempt to keep this thread filled with bitter people that haven’t even and may never even enter the land.

Impressions from afar are about as useful to the historical construction story of SWGE as a secondhand description of someone else’s Instagramed dinner is to my understanding of how the meal was actually created.

I’ve lurked on this thread for a very long time but now I’m out. Y’all have fun while we go live our Star Wars adventures.

 

[ThistleMae]

But this is a criticism, not an advantage for those that want actual Star Wars in a Star Wars Land. It’s an entirely new creation that I’m certainly not familiar with and another leap further into the abyss from the terrible sequel trilogy that will get its final attempt at redemption (Episode 9) or forever be disliked by Star Wars fans.

The author has admitted people will makeup their own stories at Galaxy’s Edge’s Batuu. Just because we devise our own Star Wars stories with help from Disney’s Imagineering doesn’t make it more Star Wars, it makes it less.

I definitely disagree. This is the first perspective I've read that makes perfect sense for fans and for folks who aren't. I like the idea of creating my own continuing saga filled with new, as yet to be discovered, story lines. It's about imagination. What other characters, we don't know about, visit this planet, have their own agenda's and travel throughout the galaxy discovering new planets and people. Why not? The saga fans know the story the creator has told us. It's only one story out of a million possible other stories anyone can create. It makes me more excited to think of it this way. Some folks will only know the story presented in the movies. Other people will imagine endless possibilities for a made-up science fiction land. Imagination is imagination. It will be whatever one imagines it to be. Why close doors when you can open windows?

 

[DanielBB8]

I definitely disagree. This is the first perspective I've read that makes perfect sense for fans and for folks who aren't. I like the idea of creating my own continuing saga filled with new, as yet to be discovered, story lines. It's about imagination. What other characters, we don't know about, visit this planet, have their own agenda's and travel throughout the galaxy discovering new planets and people. Why not? The saga fans know the story the creator has told us. It's only one story out of a million possible other stories anyone can create. It makes me more excited to think of it this way. Some folks will only know the story presented in the movies. Other people will imagine endless possibilities for a made-up science fiction land. Imagination is imagination. It will be whatever one imagines it to be. Why close doors when you can open windows?

This sounds more like Star Trek than Star Wars. Star Trek is all about the final frontier (almost fitting for Disneyland). Star Wars is about stories that happened a long long time ago. It isn't about discovering new planets as if it's a new thing. It's only new to us. It is familiar to those that live in the Star Wars Universe. The Empire and the First Order is about conquering those planets. Creating your own stories is more Disney than Star Wars. It's something different that is the strongest argument against Disney acquiring Star Wars. This is only the beginning of whittling away whatever credibility or respect we have for Star Wars. George Lucas created something special with Star Wars. It's his vision of a world of Jedi Knights against the Sith that we still don't know enough of. They fly in fantastic spacecraft that no one can dream of in their own minds. If you think you can do better, then it's obvious that few people are able to accomplish it.

You talk about "open windows". You can open a window, but you're leaving Star Wars behind. It's not Star Wars. It's something else.

 

[sedati]

I know some of you don't like to use the ignore feature, but it's still possible to just plain ignore some people and not respond to their every post.

 

[Epcot_Imagineer]

Just a reminder - this is a discussion about construction of Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge at DL. Not movies. Thank you.

 

[Disney Irish]

I definitely disagree. This is the first perspective I've read that makes perfect sense for fans and for folks who aren't. I like the idea of creating my own continuing saga filled with new, as yet to be discovered, story lines. It's about imagination. What other characters, we don't know about, visit this planet, have their own agenda's and travel throughout the galaxy discovering new planets and people. Why not? The saga fans know the story the creator has told us. It's only one story out of a million possible other stories anyone can create. It makes me more excited to think of it this way. Some folks will only know the story presented in the movies. Other people will imagine endless possibilities for a made-up science fiction land. Imagination is imagination. It will be whatever one imagines it to be. Why close doors when you can open windows?

Yep, I agree. As a child I made up my own Star Wars adventures playing in my backyard, as I'm sure a lot of others did as well. We didn't go about "playing" Star Wars just to replay the same battle scenes from the movies, though we did some of that too. We used our imaginations and made our own adventures. And now this land allows you to do it in real life. I think its cool....

 

[DanielBB8]

I know some of you don't like to use the ignore feature, but it's still possible to just plain ignore some people and not respond to their every post.

That's so nice. Maybe you should try it. This is a discussion. That means opinions don't have to agree with you.

 

[Bleed0range]

This sounds more like Star Trek than Star Wars. Star Trek is all about the final frontier (almost fitting for Disneyland). Star Wars is about stories that happened a long long time ago. It isn't about discovering new planets as if it's a new thing. It's only new to us. It is familiar to those that live in the Star Wars Universe. The Empire and the First Order is about conquering those planets. Creating your own stories is more Disney than Star Wars. It's something different that is the strongest argument against Disney acquiring Star Wars. This is only the beginning of whittling away whatever credibility or respect we have for Star Wars. George Lucas created something special with Star Wars. It's his vision of a world of Jedi Knights against the Sith that we still don't know enough of. They fly in fantastic spacecraft that no one can dream of in their own minds. If you think you can do better, then it's obvious that few people are able to accomplish it.

You talk about "open windows". You can open a window, but you're leaving Star Wars behind. It's not Star Wars. It's something else.

Well the thing about this land is that it sort of lived up to the idea that the SW universe is much bigger than what we see. The use universe approach Lucas went for in ANH. Where you get the feeling that there is so much more to see.

Batuu is just that for anyone with a bit of imagination. It hits all the marks of the SW universe. We don’t have to have been there in the movies to be able to tell. Chewie visiting with the Falcon is enough to bring it to some familiar territory. It shows that it’s a place that exists just beyond the border of the film frame. A place Han and Chewie have been before on their adventures.

It’s close enough to Tatooine in design that it wouldn’t really make much of a difference if they called this Anchorhead. You got a droid roasting meat over a pod race engine and a spaceport / cantina. Swap out the Batuu look for a desert one and it’s the same thing.

Just use a little imagination. Maybe it’s because I’ve played so many games that took me places I hadn’t before in the SW universe, but it feels right in line to me.

 

[DanielBB8]

Well the thing about this land is that it sort of lived up to the idea that the SW universe is much bigger than what we see. The use universe approach Lucas went for in ANH. Where you get the feeling that there is so much more to see.

Batuu is just that for anyone with a bit of imagination. It hits all the marks of the SW universe. We don’t have to have been there in the movies to be able to tell. Chewie visiting with the Falcon is enough to bring it to some familiar territory. It shows that it’s a place that exists just beyond the border of the film frame. A place Han and Chewie have been before on their adventures.

It’s close enough to Tatooine in design that it wouldn’t really make much of a difference if they called this Anchorhead. You got a droid roasting meat over a pod race engine and a spaceport / cantina. Swap out the Batuu look for a desert one and it’s the same thing.

Just use a little imagination. Maybe it’s because I’ve played so many games that took me places I hadn’t before in the SW universe, but it feels right in line to me.

I didn't think imagination means plagiarize.

I pasted this 2 pages ago. "How The Force Awakens is a remake of A New Hope"

Read More: https://www.looper.com/6702/ways-force-awakens-remake-new-hope/?utm_campaign=clip

It's so funny that we are back to my original argument again. Batuu is a remake of Tatooine that they should have done it right the first time.

 

[Snow Queen]

I see 'it should have been Tatooine' come up a lot in discussions about the park here and elsewhere. Is it just me then that has no interest in a Tatooine theme park land? It's a great place on film, but man I think it'd make for a boring experience in a park. I think Batuu makes for a much better looking theme park expansion, with it's abundance of greenery and petrified tree-style visuals. If I wanted to wander around concrete made to look like sand, with little shade in the ever-increasing southern heat, I'd visit Toy Story Land.

 

[DanielBB8]

There’s two ways to solve this problem. A desert isn’t flat. There’s canyons and mountains in a desert. It can be merged into another planet like Naboo for variety. But everything you see in Batuu originated in Tatoonie. If you say it’s boring, maybe Star Wars is the problem.

 

[Epcot_Imagineer]

Can we copy the Honeypot: Skyliner thread idea for SW:GE... I know I have likely got caught up in discussing the land myself, but this thread is for talking about construction, and for the reviews of people who have gone to SW:GE! Thank you!

 

[Mac Tonight]

Can we copy the Honeypot: Skyliner thread idea for SW:GE... I know I have likely got caught up in discussing the land myself, but this thread is for talking about construction, and for the reviews of people who have gone to SW:GE! Thank you!

Actually, there is a whole separate thread for reviews. I believe its pinned at the top of the DL sub-forum. Trying to get this thread to stay on topic of construction (especially since its all pretty much done) is kind of a fruitless endeavor.

 

[SuddenStorm]

This thread is about construction and now that the project is constructed I think it has run its course, jumped the shark and now deviated into a circle of arguments that belong in some other thread.

Changing the title of the thread is an unfortunate attempt to keep this thread filled with bitter people that haven’t even and may never even enter the land.

Impressions from afar are about as useful to the historical construction story of SWGE as a secondhand description of someone else’s Instagramed dinner is to my understanding of how the meal was actually created.

I’ve lurked on this thread for a very long time but now I’m out. Y’all have fun while we go live our Star Wars adventures.

I love when the lurkers get mad that the conversation doesn't keep them entertained anymore.

 

[shambolicdefending]

I see 'it should have been Tatooine' come up a lot in discussions about the park here and elsewhere. Is it just me then that has no interest in a Tatooine theme park land? It's a great place on film, but man I think it'd make for a boring experience in a park. I think Batuu makes for a much better looking theme park expansion, with it's abundance of greenery and petrified tree-style visuals. If I wanted to wander around concrete made to look like sand, with little shade in the ever-increasing southern heat, I'd visit Toy Story Land.

They're obviously just saving a Tatooine-themed land for when they finally get around to building that third domestic resort in Texas.