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[dweezil78]

Rogue One was a profit-minded two-hour unnecessary attempt to fill in a small plot gap in ANH.

Is it cool to hate Rogue One now or something? I thought most people dug it. I really liked it and cared about the characters -- as much as one could care about any characters who only exist in a singular movie (which is how it goes in most movies, no?).

And I think it was necessary in order to show that there can be Star Wars stories that exist beyond the Skywalker saga while still feeling like Star Wars. Not only that, I really felt like it was the first film to put the Wars in Star Wars. I kinda wanna go watch it now just talking about it!

 

[Rich T]

Y'all I just heard the dumbest thing about Solo that is going to confuse so many people

Spoiler

Darth Maul appears in the movie

Disney is going to milk the SW franchise into the ground to the point where no one ever wants to hear the words "Star Wars" again.

 

[dweezil78]

True, but so many claim its so much better than the original. I know part of that is the blaring music and the more physical movement as the car never stops moving now; but it also shows that people don't care about physical sets and practical effects as much as we hoped, they are perfectly content with poorly integrated flat screens to play clips.

I always feel like the sound isn't quite loud enough. With everyone screaming during the drops, it actually gets pretty hard to hear it all.

Also, it's not like it's some slow moving ride where you have much time to look at physical sets like a boat ride or omnimover You're rapidly bouncing up and down. IMO that sets fit the ride type. ToT planted you in front of the hallway for a hot minute allowing you to absorb it so screens would not have worked well there, MB is a different beast.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

Is it cool to hate Rogue One now or something? I thought most people dug it. I really liked it and cared about the characters -- as much as one could care about any characters who only exist in a singular movie (which is how it goes in most movies, no?).

And I think it was necessary in order to show that there can be Star Wars stories that exist beyond the Skywalker saga while still feeling like Star Wars. Not only that, I really felt like it was the first film to put the Wars in Star Wars. I kinda wanna go watch it now just talking about it!

I actually didn't mind it at first viewing. And I liked the big robot guy...alas...it was a tease of a film that's sole purpose was to connect some dots in a pre-existing storyline.

Also, this doesn't exist outside the Skywalker saga. Papa Skywalker and Daughter Skywalker are very much a part of it.

 

[Disney Irish]

I just hated Leia being turned into the worst liar in the galaxy.

Vader: Where are the plans that were beamed aboard this ship? Or, I guess, beamed aboard the other ship and then handed to this ship?

Leia: Whaaaaat? No....We...we are on a diplomatic mission.

Vader: I saw the plans physically handed over to this ship. I saw this ship pull away. Then we followed you and apprehended you shortly after.

Leia: No. Wasn't us.

Vader: I saw you.

Leia: Uh uh.

We've had this discussion before, diplomats do that. Especially ones that are committing espionage.

If it played out the way you want it where she admitted it, here is what would have happened:

Vader: Where are the plans that were beamed aboard this ship? Or, I guess, beamed aboard the other ship and then handed to this ship?

Leia: Whaaaaat? No....We...we are on a diplomatic mission.

Vader: I saw the plans physically handed over to this ship. I saw this ship pull away. Then we followed you and apprehended you shortly after.

Leia: Alright you caught me, so what? I will never tell you where the plans are, you're evil and must be stopped.

Vader: But not by you. *Force chokes Leia to death*

End of story, end of franchise.

 

[Professortango1]

I always feel like the sound isn't quite loud enough. With everyone screaming during the drops, it actually gets pretty hard to hear it all.

Also, it's not like it's some slow moving ride where you have much time to look at physical sets like a boat ride or omnimover You're rapidly bouncing up and down. IMO that sets fit the ride type. ToT planted you in front of the hallway for a hot minute allowing you to absorb it so screens would not have worked well there, MB is a different beast.

True, Mission BO is like a parent dangling keys in front of their baby. And I agree that the sound is too weak as I can rarely hear dialogue. I personally would have liked some more blurring of the line between screen and reality. AA baby Groot or Rocket or even tentacles which can come out of panels on the floor or wall, blast effects with smoke that come from the screen and hit the physical set between us. Some set dressing to help mask the large rectangle.

 

[dweezil78]

I actually didn't mind it at first viewing. And I liked the big robot guy...alas...it was a tease of a film that's sole purpose was to connect some dots in a pre-existing storyline.

Also, this doesn't exist outside the Skywalker saga. Papa Skywalker and Daughter Skywalker are very much a part of it.

Sorry, I should have phrased that differently.. A story that isn't specifically centered around Skywalkers as the main characters or storyline. I get that this is obviously connected, but this specific tale is not about the Skywalker family or any of their descendants.

 

[Rich T]

True, but so many claim its so much better than the original. I know part of that is the blaring music and the more physical movement as the car never stops moving now; but it also shows that people don't care about physical sets and practical effects as much as we hoped, they are perfectly content with poorly integrated flat screens to play clips.

I prefer ToT, but, let's face it, the use of on-ride physical sets and practical effects was minimal and certainly not the reason people lined up for a scary elevator ride. If we were comparing Transformers to Indiana Jones, we'd probably see people preferring real sets.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

Sorry, I should have phrased that differently.. A story that isn't specifically centered around Skywalkers as the main characters or storyline. I get that this is obviously connected, but this specific tale is not about the Skywalker family or any of their descendants.

Not about them specifically, but it still slots nicely into their saga.

 

[Professortango1]

We've had this discussion before, diplomats do that. Especially ones that are committing espionage.

If it played out the way you want it where she admitted it, here is what would have happened:

Vader: Where are the plans that were beamed aboard this ship? Or, I guess, beamed aboard the other ship and then handed to this ship?

Leia: Whaaaaat? No....We...we are on a diplomatic mission.

Vader: I saw the plans physically handed over to this ship. I saw this ship pull away. Then we followed you and apprehended you shortly after.

Leia: Alright you caught me, so what? I will never tell you where the plans are, you're evil and must be stopped.

Vader: But not by you. *Force chokes Leia to death*

End of story, end of franchise.

Vader wouldn't kill his only link to the plans until he knew they were secured. The scene just worked better when the plans were beamed to a politician who could hide behind their status rather than a politician actually being at the battle and speeding away with the plans with Vader in hot pursuit.

 

[TROR]

I prefer ToT, but, let's face it, the use of on-ride physical sets and practical effects was minimal and certainly not the reason people lined up for a scary elevator ride. If we were comparing Transformers to Indiana Jones, we'd probably see people preferring real sets.

I think the atmosphere was definitely a big reason people enjoyed Tower of Terror. The haunted hotel is just such a great theme.

 

[Professortango1]

I prefer ToT, but, let's face it, the use of on-ride physical sets and practical effects was minimal and certainly not the reason people lined up for a scary elevator ride. If we were comparing Transformers to Indiana Jones, we'd probably see people preferring real sets.

Good point. I think I'm just also biased as how ambition TOT feels with taking its time and using a variety of elements whereas Mission BO just feels lazy with keeping the audience in a state of sensory overload to avoid having to do anything of significance.

 

[Phroobar]

Y'all I just heard the dumbest thing about Solo that is going to confuse so many people

Spoiler

Darth Maul appears in the movie

At least it's not Jar Jar.

 

[Stevek]

Is it cool to hate Rogue One now or something? I thought most people dug it. I really liked it and cared about the characters -- as much as one could care about any characters who only exist in a singular movie (which is how it goes in most movies, no?).

And I think it was necessary in order to show that there can be Star Wars stories that exist beyond the Skywalker saga while still feeling like Star Wars. Not only that, I really felt like it was the first film to put the Wars in Star Wars. I kinda wanna go watch it now just talking about it!

I loved Rogue One. Yes, the Vader/Obi fight in ANH does look a bit odd given Vader's actions in R1 but I'm not going to hate it because of that.

 

[TROR]

At least it's not Jar Jar.

Spoiler

I'd prefer Jar Jar

 

[Professortango1]

I loved Rogue One. Yes, the Vader/Obi fight in ANH does look a bit odd given Vader's actions in R1 but I'm not going to hate it because of that.

I like the 2nd half of Rogue One, I just hate the way it fits into the saga andt wish the 1st half was better structured and they had given us developed characters we can latch onto instead of tokens.

 

[Phroobar]

They don't realize (or maybe they do) that MB is a success because its core is a fun drop ride and the only thrill ride of its type at DLR. They could have themed it to Prince of Persia or The Wuzzles and people would still be lining up for it.

The Teletubbies Tower of Torture - join the Teletubbies as they teach you about up and down!

 

[Disney Irish]

Vader wouldn't kill his only link to the plans until he knew they were secured. The scene just worked better when the plans were beamed to a politician who could hide behind their status rather than a politician actually being at the battle and speeding away with the plans with Vader in hot pursuit.

I see it as a politician who is also a spy committing espionage.

 

[Phroobar]

Spoiler

I'd prefer Jar Jar

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

Hey, look at us...talking about Star Wars again