News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

[Disney Irish]

Paris is short on space, but I think they'll keep the Eiffel Tower.

Well just a couple differences that I can think of off the top of my head....

1. The areas of Paris around Eiffel can and do change all the time
2. Eiffel is maintained by a public works entity and not a private company
3. Eiffel was the entrance to the 1889 world's fair and considered by some as a wonder of the modern world

 

[Rich T]

Younger folk here might not realize it yet... but the "bringing your kids and grandkids to DL to experience the rides you loved most when you were a kid" aspect of DL is a HUGE part of the park's success as a repeat-business powerhouse. Few parks have that kind of cross-generational devotion. Remove things too quickly and...poof... you've pulled out a keystone Jenga block.

 

[Disney Irish]

I think you can have *certain* parts remain in whatever year they were created. History and Legacy are important. Otherwise you end up with no substance, no roots... and no emotional attachment.

History and Legacy can be maintain without taking up valuable real estate. For example they have a Disney Family Museum here in the Bay Area, which I'm sure you are aware. So why can't Disney setup a Disney Attractions museum someplace else? Have mini versions of classic but historically significant attractions, like Tiki, PotC original, HM, etc. It get the nostalgic guest and allow land to be freed up. There is lots of land in the Mid-West that could be used.

 

[Rich T]

Well just a couple differences that I can think of off the top of my head....

1. The areas of Paris around Eiffel can and do change all the time
2. Eiffel is maintained by a public works entity and not a private company
3. Eiffel was the entrance to the 1889 world's fair and considered by some as a wonder of the modern world

Exactly. Things *around* the tower change. Disneyland is considered by some as a wonder of the modern world, and many of it's iconic attractions are important to that perception.

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

Do you think there will be fan uproar over alcohol at SWGE because Walt or do you think no one will care

 

[Rich T]

History and Legacy can be maintain without taking up valuable real estate.

Thank you, Alonzo Hawk.

 

[Disney Irish]

Younger folk here might not realize it yet... but the "bringing your kids and grandkids to DL to experience the rides you loved most when you were a kid" aspect of DL is a HUGE part of the park's success as a repeat-business powerhouse. Few parks have that kind of cross-generational devotion. Remove things too quickly and...poof... you've pulled out a keystone Jenga block.

If you're speaking to me, I'm not as young as you think.

 

[Stevek]

We'll see, but like I said at some point some real tough and touchy decisions are going to have to be made. Land is at a premium at DLR, you can't have certain parts of the park stuck in 1966.

You could have probably said the same thing in 1986, 1996 or 2006....quality rides that continue to have guest appeal will likely stay, especially the classics or most of Fantasyland. Newer stuff, like Buzz, Pooh, Roger, Gadget, redone Subs...those may have a harder time sticking around.

 

[Disney Irish]

Exactly. Things *around* the tower change. Disneyland is considered by some as a wonder of the modern world, and many of it's iconic attractions are important to that perception.

But yet they aren't going to close down construction in Paris just because they ran out of room. They'd make the tough decision and remove areas and build new things. Eiffel is one thing in Paris, its not the entire city.

 

[Rich T]

Do you think there will be fan uproar over alcohol at SWGE because Walt or do you think no one will care

I'm in an uproar. And a downroar. I think DL should remain as booze-free as possible. Some people can't go ANYWHERE without alcohol.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

History and Legacy can be maintain without taking up valuable real estate. For example they have a Disney Family Museum here in the Bay Area, which I'm sure you are aware. So why can't Disney setup a Disney Attractions museum someplace else? Have mini versions of classic but historically significant attractions, like Tiki, PotC original, HM, etc. It get the nostalgic guest and allow land to be freed up. There is lots of land in the Mid-West that could be used.

So rather than have someone take their grandchildren and show them attractions from their youth at the park, you're gonna ship people out the mid-west to ride a mini version of Haunted Mansion as a means of preserving its legacy?

Yeah, no.

 

[Disney Irish]

You could have probably said the same thing in 1986, 1996 or 2006....quality rides that continue to have guest appeal will likely stay, especially the classics or most of Fantasyland. Newer stuff, like Buzz, Pooh, Roger, Gadget, redone Subs...those may have a harder time sticking around.

I'm not saying this is going to be done tomorrow, but at some point in the next 30+ years some tough decision will be made...

 

[Rich T]

But yet they aren't going to close down construction in Paris just because they ran out of room. They'd make the tough decision and remove areas and build new things. Eiffel is one thing in Paris, its not the entire city.

I'm not, and never, saying nothing should change. I'm just saying not *everything* should change.

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

I'm in an uproar. And a downroar. I think DL should remain as booze-free as possible. Some people can't go ANYWHERE without alcohol.

I think the thought is that it would be impossibly lame to have the Cantina in SWGE and not have any alcoholic options.

Do I think that Blue Bayou will start serving wine and beer once the seal is broken? Yup. Doesn't bother me either. What we won't see are drink carts, like DCA.

 

[Disney Irish]

So rather than have someone take their grandchildren and show them attractions from their youth, you're gonna ship people out the mid-west to ride a mini version of Haunted Mansion as a means of preserving its legacy?

Yeah, no.

I'm just giving an example of what can be done. There will be a time when tough decisions will be made about certain attractions.

 

[TROR]

Do you think there will be fan uproar over alcohol at SWGE because Walt or do you think no one will care

If Disneyland has alcohol, then DCA's crowds will disappear. The number one thing I hear people defend DCA with is that it has alcohol and Disneyland doesn't. I will be upset, though, honestly. Not because I care about Walt's opinions but I find alcohol to turn men into fools and we have enough fools at Disneyland without the help of alcohol.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

I'm just giving an example of what can be done. There will be a time when tough decisions will be made about certain attractions.

lol, I know, that seems to be your on-going motto.
And I, like @Rich T are saying that while change is inevitable, the entire park doesn't have to change. There are plently of things currently there that I would change. But there are also attractions that should really just be considered historical landmarks and not touched by the money-grubbing corporate fingers.

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

If Disneyland has alcohol, then DCA's crowds will disappear. The number one thing I hear people defend DCA with is that it has alcohol and Disneyland doesn't. I will be upset, though, honestly. Not because I care about Walt's opinions but I find alcohol to turn men into fools and we have enough fools at Disneyland without the help of alcohol.

Getting into the Cantina will be no small feat, whereas DCA has booze every 10 feet. Not really comparable.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

If Disneyland has alcohol, then DCA's crowds will disappear. The number one thing I hear people defend DCA with is that it has alcohol and Disneyland doesn't. I will be upset, though, honestly. Not because I care about Walt's opinions but I find alcohol to turn men into fools and we have enough fools at Disneyland without the help of alcohol.

Personally, if anyone needs booze to ensure they have a good day at Disneyland they don't belong there. DCA maybe...but not DL.

 

[Stevek]

I'm not saying this is going to be done tomorrow, but at some point in the next 30+ years some tough decision will be made...

In 30 years, Disney could finally decide to use the TS lot and build a new park. That kinda takes all of those decisions off the table. That being said, building a 3rd park may still be a stretch. My gut tells me you would see Toontown, Subs, Autopia, America Sings Building and the FL theater all get torn out and those areas repurposed before you'll see Disney touch some of the true classics (though I consider Autopia a classic).