News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

dweezil78

dweezil78

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On an serious note, it's amazing how fast GE is all starting to come together now the overall infrastructure/framework is done and they're getting to focus on the details. Those buildings look so on point and feel so much like Star Wars, seeing it from the BTM lifthill got me so pumped!!! I honestly don't know how someone could see that stuff and not be the least bit interested to check it out.
 
Disney Irish

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SuddenStorm said:
Anyone know if this show's gonna make a comeback in Galaxy's Edge?

Easily the best use of the Star Wars IP I've seen in a Disney park.
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Rich T

Rich T

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Professortango1 said:
The park is clearly through the lens of Americana. I believe there was a PBS Documentary on it a few years ago.
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OH MY GOSH, PEOPLE!!!! How many times does it have to be said: Y'know what Disneyland was originally about? STUFF WALT DISNEY LIKED! Apply whatever other labels and themes you want, but it's really as simple as that. Everything in Disneyland in the Walt era was there because Walt Disney thought it was cool. Dinosaurs from the World's Fair accessed by a 19th century steam locomotive? Awesome! A monorail gliding past the Matterhorn? Fun time! Pirates: Get on that! Let's do something with Bears! Look what Rolly Crump's up to: Work that in! Walt had a gut instinct for what would work and he was surrounded by artists who could bring it to life.

Disneyland is about Walt Disney. Who'da thunk? :D
 
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dweezil78

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mickEblu said:
Nostalgia now is nostalgia of Disneyland itself not where places like Main Street were based on. Funny how that works. Not really on second thought. To be nostalgic about something you can kind of have to of experienced it.
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Well, sure... and they obviously take advantage and benefit greatly from the fact that we're so nostalgic about Disneyland. But there's also a ton of other stuff we're nostalgic for that they can (and do) integrate into the parks since Americana was all the rage.

Point being... Disneyland was not designed to be about Americana. Disneyland was designed to be about what people were nostalgic about in 1955 (yes, the very same year that Marty McFly travels back in time), which happened to be Americana at that time.

The fact that so much of the park has remained rooted there, IMO, can be attributed to many things -- not the least of which is the timing of Walt's death, the near-immediate shift in focus to Florida shortly after, and the uncertainty of the company for many years during that time all of which lead to a pretty significant halt in DL development for years to come.
 
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Disney Irish

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dweezil78 said:
Well, sure... and they obviously take advantage and benefit greatly from the fact that we're so nostalgic about Disneyland. But there's also a ton of other stuff we're nostalgic for that they can (and do) integrate into the parks since Americana was all the rage.

Point being... Disneyland was not designed to be about Americana. Disneyland was designed to be about what people were nostalgic about in 1955 (yes, the very same year that Marty McFly travels back in time), which happened to be Americana at that time.

The fact that so much of the park has remained rooted there, IMO, can be attributed to many things -- not the least of which is the timing of Walt's death, the near-immediate shift in focus to Florida shortly after, and the uncertainty of the company for many years during that time all of which lead to a pretty significant halt in DL development for years to come.
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Agreed, I have a feeling that had Walt lasted into the 1970s a lot of what we see in DL today would be completely different. Technology changes, social changes, business philosophy changes, etc., all of which would have lead to changes in the parks.
 
Rich T

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TROR said:
Walt's interests were Americana.
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You could classify a lot of it like that. Walt's interests were eclectic, wide-ranging and very personal. He loved storytelling. Science and technology fascinated him. And--whether it was biological chance or intentional effort (probably both)--he was perfectly in tune with the tastes of the general American Public of the time (and beyond). And part of this can be called Americana, sure, but the story-telling and history aspects (not to mention the overall excellent quality) strike a chord with people all over the world. I wouldn't call Alice in Wonderland or The Wind in the Willows Americana -- not even the studio's unique interpretation of them-- but Dumbo's about as 1940's American whimsy as you can get.
 
Rich T

Rich T

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dweezil78 said:
Exactly. Nostalgia circa 1950s was Americana. It isn’t today nor should Disneyland be bound to it.
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It shouldn't be totally bound to it. But if the balance shifts too far away from Walt Disney's original input... well, it just won't really be Disneyland anymore.
(I'm certain the best Imagineers have that in mind constantly, and the Management couldn't care less.)
 
Rich T

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Disney Irish Bruh said:
Agreed, I have a feeling that had Walt lasted into the 1970s a lot of what we see in DL today would be completely different. Technology changes, social changes, business philosophy changes, etc., all of which would have lead to changes in the parks.
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I am absolutely certain Walt Disney would have embraced every single technological change (when AA technology became possible, he pretty much lost interest in film animation). up to the point where it negatively impacts the original vision of a park for the whole family to enjoy together.

He would've hated Fastpass, though. He would have wanted everyone to wait in the same line together. He would have wanted an affordable option for people to enter the parks without paying for things they won't take part in. He would have charged significantly less for everything overall.

And he wouldn't have had to purchase Star Wars because he would have probably liked Lucas's story pitch and produced Star Wars himself. And he would have hired Lasseter the moment he saw Tin Toy.

I don't think he would have been interested in superheroes beyond parodying them.
 
Rich T

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Phrubruh said:
I wonder if there would be a Frontierland. Westerns were pretty dead back in the 70s & 80s.
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Frontierland was so dear to Walt Disney (and most guests) that it would be the second-last thing he'd part with (after Main Street). The American Wild West is such a powerful theme (and not just for Americans) that it transcends movie trends. I tell you one thing, though, I'm certain he'd have made sure Big Thunder incorporated a little more of Nature's Wonderland into the experience. Maybe. (He was, after all, perfectly fine with leaving the Matterhorn's interior structure exposed to riders).
 
dweezil78

dweezil78

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Rich T said:
It shouldn't be totally bound to it. But if the balance shifts too far away from Walt Disney's original input... well, it just won't really be Disneyland anymore.
(I'm certain the best Imagineers have that in mind constantly, and the Management couldn't care less.)
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I agree...and at Disneyland it hasn't. At DCA though, I feel it's pretty fair game to tinker and try riskier stuff with that place as they please. Much rather they do it over there than at the good park. :)
 

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