News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

[mickEblu]

@TP2000 you're really grasping for straws now.

Your statements go against all evidence, logic, and information. You can't look at those photo comparisons with a functioning pair of eyes and conclude that there's less "elbow room" in front of either attraction in DHS. Plus, if the Imagineers needed more room in front of Big Bird, they would be building TSL less egregiously large. If they needed more room in front of Alcatraz, they would be building that berm further back. If they needed more room next to Muppetvision, they would've shifted the entire thing over... over onto the space you claimed didn't exist, and I had to literally draw out for you. The fact that you said the land is "hemmed in rather tightly by World Drive" demonstrates your complete inability to analyze an aerial photo.

But please do keep digging your own grave. I thoroughly enjoy proving you wrong. Apologies to the rest of you, as always.

I’ll have you know that @TP2000 ’s monocle is working just fine.

 

[vancee]

@TP2000 you're really grasping for straws now.

Your statements go against all evidence, logic, and information. You can't look at those photo comparisons with a functioning pair of eyes and conclude that there's less "elbow room" in front of either attraction in DHS. Plus, if the Imagineers needed more room in front of Big Bird, they would be building TSL less egregiously large. If they needed more room in front of Alcatraz, they would be building that berm further back. If they needed more room next to Muppetvision, they would've shifted the entire thing over... over onto the space you claimed didn't exist, and I had to literally draw out for you. The fact that you said the land is "hemmed in rather tightly by World Drive" demonstrates your complete inability to analyze an aerial photo.

But please do keep digging your own grave. I thoroughly enjoy proving you wrong, especially on such an important topic. Apologies to the rest of you, as always.

One does not mess with Mr. @TP2000

 

[vancee]

I’ll have you know that @TP2000 ’s monocle is working just fine.

He totally does not splash a little alcohol in his tea every morning.

 

[mickEblu]

He totally does not splash a little alcohol in his tea every morning.

He’s definitely the most interesting man in the world. I heard he once skied UP Mount Everest.

I also heard that he once wrestled a lion... while smoking a cigar and sipping scotch to give the beast a fair shot.

When an artichoke sees him it peels itself out of respect.

He doesn’t do push ups, he does Earth downs.

Rumor has it Walt built Club 33 to get him to finally visit Disneyland.

He can make the lamest profile name of all time sound cool (Theme Parks 2000)

He is @TP2000

 

[TP2000]

@TP2000 you're really grasping for straws now.

...The fact that you said the land is "hemmed in rather tightly by World Drive" demonstrates your complete inability to analyze an aerial photo.

But please do keep digging your own grave. I thoroughly enjoy proving you wrong, especially on such an important topic. Apologies to the rest of you, as always.

Oh, dear. I don't want to make you feel bad, but I have had to hit pause on my binge watching night of season 2 of The Crown to respond to this.

If World Drive was moveable, where on earth would they have moved it to and how would that have expanded the noticeably different use of space for the DHS version of Star Wars Land? How do you get more space between the theme park and World Drive?

He’s definitely the most interesting man in the world. I heard he once skied UP Mount Everest.

I also heard that he once wrestled a lion... while smoking a cigar and skipping scotch.

When an artichoke sees him it peels himself out of respect.

He doesn’t do push ups, he does Earth downs.

He can make the lamest profile name of all time sound cool (Theme Parks 2000)

He is @TP2000

Thank you, you're very kind. It's funny you mention an artichoke, as I trimmed and dressed a few at a family dinner last weekend and a young relative said they'd never seen one more beautifully prepared. It really is an art.

And now kids, back to a second Drambuie and season 2 of The Crown. Talk amongst yourselves in my absence, please.

 

[mickEblu]

Oh, dear. I don't want to make you feel bad, but I have had to hit pause on my binge watching night of season 2 of The Crown to respond to this.

If World Drive was moveable, where on earth would they have moved it to and how would that have expanded the noticeably different use of space for the DHS version of Star Wars Land? How do you get more space between the theme park and World Drive?

Thank you, you're very kind. It's funny you mention an artichoke, as I trimmed and dressed a few at a family dinner last weekend and a young relative said they'd never seen one more beautifully prepared. It really is an art.

And now kids, back to a second Drambuie and season 2 of The Crown. Talk amongst yourselves in my absence, please.

Wait, wait before you go back. Is it true Walt built Club 33 to get you to finally visit Disneyland?

 

[TP2000]

Wait, wait before you go back. Is it true Walt built Club 33 to get you to finally visit Disneyland?

HAHAHA! That's the best line I've ever heard. Sadly, it's not true. But I would love for that false rumor to be spread more wildly, if you have the time. With my blessings.

And now seriously, I'm hitting play again on The Crown.

 

[mickEblu]

HAHAHA! That's the best line I've ever heard. Sadly, it's not true. But I would love for that false rumor to be spread more wildly, if you have the time. With my blessings.

And now seriously, I'm hitting play again on The Crown.

Lol I will do my best.

 

[No Name]

Oh, dear. I don't want to make you feel bad, but I have had to hit pause on my binge watching night of season 2 of The Crown to respond to this.

If World Drive was moveable, where on earth would they have moved it to and how would that have expanded the noticeably different use of space for the DHS version of Star Wars Land? How do you get more space between the theme park and World Drive?

Thank you, you're very kind. It's funny you mention an artichoke, as I trimmed and dressed a few at a family dinner last weekend and a young relative said they'd never seen one more beautifully prepared. It really is an art.

And now kids, back to a second Drambuie and season 2 of The Crown. Talk amongst yourselves in my absence, please.

Oh dear, Post #6066, it wasn't even a month ago.
Nobody's moving World Drive. The area south of the black line is "more space between the theme park and World Drive." Therefore SWGE is not at all "hemmed in rather tightly by World Drive."

 

[vancee]

Wait, wait before you go back. Is it true Walt built Club 33 to get you to finally visit Disneyland?

Well he sure in the hell better get us in Club 33 after sucking up.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Oh, dear. I don't want to make you feel bad, but I have had to hit pause on my binge watching night of season 2 of The Crown to respond to this.

If World Drive was moveable, where on earth would they have moved it to and how would that have expanded the noticeably different use of space for the DHS version of Star Wars Land? How do you get more space between the theme park and World Drive?

Thank you, you're very kind. It's funny you mention an artichoke, as I trimmed and dressed a few at a family dinner last weekend and a young relative said they'd never seen one more beautifully prepared. It really is an art.

And now kids, back to a second Drambuie and season 2 of The Crown. Talk amongst yourselves in my absence, please.

Do you have a British accent? I automatically read your posts with a British accent in my head.

 

[FerretAfros]

Okay, "radically" is way overboard. It's almost the cocktail hour and I've had a long day of running errands.

I think the more appropriate word to use would be "noticeably". The land use is noticeably different between the two lands.

Although, I imagine when the first Disney Vloggers do a coast-to-coast comparison, they will obsess over these differences to such a breathless extent that they will seem radical. But only to about 0.05% of the population. It will be painful to watch, yet hilarious.

I will now celebrate my corrected language and the arrival of the cocktail hour with a Rusty Nail, and I toast you @Dr. Hans Reinhardt and @MisterPenguin and @GrandCanyonConcourse and all my fellow land use friends! Cheers!

There will be some "noticeable" differences around the perimeter of the two lands, but I think these differences will really be quite minor in reality. Will having two smaller tunnels 30' apart really be all that different from a single larger tunnel? And what difference will it ultimately make to the meat of the land itself?

Typically when Disney "clones" something between the parks, there are a variety of differences between the various versions. Consider attractions like Splash Mountain or Big Thunder Mountain, which appear in multiple parks and have a lot of similarities, but also have a different ride layout and unique elements in each incarnation. Even attractions that were developed for simultaneous installation in multiple parks (TSMM in DCA and WDW; Buzz Lightyear in DL, DLP, TDL, and HKDL) have unique factors to fit their respective locations as needed. The big exception to this is TDL's opening day structures, which were largely copied from MK and DL because WED was too busy creating EPCOT Center to devote any real designers to the project.

It's even more unusual that the site design is copied from one location to the next. Site design is influenced by a much larger number of factors, including crowdflow and size, utilities and grading, emergency access, and overall park menu. Sure, all the castle parks have a Fantasyland with the classic attractions, but the layout, configuration, and even attraction roster of each of those Fantasylands is quite different from the next. The closest thing we have to a cloned area is either TDL's Tom Sawyer Island (copied as a mirror image from DL, but the outer riverbank is quite different) or HKDL's Main Street (façade architecture copied from DL, with new paint schemes and all-new interiors)

Yes, there will be some differences around the edges and approaches to the two Star Wars lands, but the overwhelming majority of the 14 acres will be identical. This is a copy-and-paste on a scale that Disney's never done before, which should not be understated. As someone who spends a lot of time doing site design, it's fascinating to watch how they're copying things on such an unprecedented scale

 

[MisterPenguin]

In Orlando, our SWL will have A LOT more humidity than your SWL. So there!!

 

[britain]

There will be some "noticeable" differences around the perimeter of the two lands, but I think these differences will really be quite minor in reality. Will having two smaller tunnels 30' apart really be all that different from a single larger tunnel? And what difference will it ultimately make to the meat of the land itself?

Typically when Disney "clones" something between the parks, there are a variety of differences between the various versions. Consider attractions like Splash Mountain or Big Thunder Mountain, which appear in multiple parks and have a lot of similarities, but also have a different ride layout and unique elements in each incarnation. Even attractions that were developed for simultaneous installation in multiple parks (TSMM in DCA and WDW; Buzz Lightyear in DL, DLP, TDL, and HKDL) have unique factors to fit their respective locations as needed. The big exception to this is TDL's opening day structures, which were largely copied from MK and DL because WED was too busy creating EPCOT Center to devote any real designers to the project.

It's even more unusual that the site design is copied from one location to the next. Site design is influenced by a much larger number of factors, including crowdflow and size, utilities and grading, emergency access, and overall park menu. Sure, all the castle parks have a Fantasyland with the classic attractions, but the layout, configuration, and even attraction roster of each of those Fantasylands is quite different from the next. The closest thing we have to a cloned area is either TDL's Tom Sawyer Island (copied as a mirror image from DL, but the outer riverbank is quite different) or HKDL's Main Street (façade architecture copied from DL, with new paint schemes and all-new interiors)

Yes, there will be some differences around the edges and approaches to the two Star Wars lands, but the overwhelming majority of the 14 acres will be identical. This is a copy-and-paste on a scale that Disney's never done before, which should not be understated. As someone who spends a lot of time doing site design, it's fascinating to watch how they're copying things on such an unprecedented scale

For the majority of the population, MK and DL are "the same" if not "identical". WE know that isn't the case, but that's the level of specificity the general public is able to comprehend about the parks. I really don't think Disney was being a crafty word manipulator when they say that the two SWL will be identical. They are communicating the essential truth about the projects in a way that the general public will understand.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

In Orlando, our SWL will have A LOT more humidity than your SWL. So there!!

And thus will be more immersive. DHS SWL > DL SWL!

 

[Phroobar]

And thus will be more immersive. DHS SWL > DL SWL!

You can't beat that logic.

 

[Rich T]

In Orlando, our SWL will have A LOT more humidity than your SWL. So there!!

That's pretty much what I've been thinking this whole time. The only significant difference between the 2 SW Lands is that WDW's will be hot and sticky and DL's will have way too many annoying locals living there.
(EDIT) Also, DL's will have feral cats.

 

[TROR]

(EDIT) Also, DL's will have feral cats.

The decisive blow to confirm Disneyland's is superior

I'd love it if they had an in canon reason about cats being on the planet.

 

[Phroobar]

The decisive blow to confirm Disneyland's is superior

I'd love it if they had an in canon reason about cats being on the planet.

 

[Practical Pig]

It’ll be the same as how you guys have a little forest before Hogsmeade at Universal Hollywood. In the end it won’t matter much.

Quite possibly. It certainly won't affect the big experiences in the land. But small details can magnify an experience in subtle yet influential ways. New Orleans Square at DL was a fuller quest experience when The Court of Angels was still open to all. It served no practical function. It didn't affect our POTC experience. But the land was more complete and more charming with it than without it.

I think of this Critter Country to SW:GE transitional area in those terms. It has the potential to create a fuller guest experience. How the details unfold as quests meander around the river from Critter country, how this slow-dissolve introduces us to the experience will surely be a different experience than the jump-cuts at DHS. I expect this route to become my preferred entry.

Of course, we have only seen details of the DL version, and don't know what small, unique influential details may await in the corners to come in Orlando.