News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

Mike S

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“That’s what’s been really cool about the storytelling process. There is definitely the idea that we know it is a three-movie arc. We know the first film is an introduction, then the middle act is training, meaning challenging the characters. The third is where they all come together and you have to resolve everything.

But I was truly able to write this script without bases to tag, and without a big outline on the wall. That meant I could react to what I felt from The Force Awakens, and what I wanted to see. I could make this movie personal. I could also just take these characters where it felt right and most interesting to take them.

I think part of the reason [The Last Jedi] feels like it goes to some unexpected places with the characters is that we had that freedom. If it had all just been planned out and written down beforehand, it might have felt a little more calculated, I suppose.”

- Rian Johnson.
Really Rian? Because I didn’t see any training sequence for Rey like Luke had to go through in Empire. She’s just randomly all powerful.
 

TP2000

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So. I took this new picture and overlaid it with a straight-down shot of SWL in DL (from Google Earth) into Photoshop and distorted it to account for the angled view so that its dimensions matched the straight-down view. IOW, I corrected it's slanted view to an orthogonal one.

I then overlaid the corrected photo into Google Earth to match up with the landmarks (buildings and roads). It looks like this...

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I then drew a polygon of the area and let Google Earth tell me how many acres it is. It's 14 acres...

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Which is exactly what I got from my previous estimate (see quoted post below).

Both Star Wars Lands are 14 acres. As advertised. They are slightly different shapes. But, they are both the same size area-wise.

If anyone wants to say one is bigger than the other from eyeballing views of the lands from different angles and elevations, you're welcome to do so. But, you'd be wrong. And I'll ask for your proof that's more accurate than eyeballing it. And you won't have any.

I absolute LOVE those aerials! Thank you for creating them from the latest images, it's truly appreciated.

That said, and since this is almost exclusively my topic, I don't think I've ever said that this was a difference in acreage. If someone in the know says the DHS version is 14 acres like Disneyland's version, that's good enough for me. And most Google Earth measurements state that.

What I have said, is that there is a growing body of evidence that the land use is radically different between the two lands. Land use is different than acreage. The land use of the Disneyland project is very different. There's a lot more elbow room and land available on the Stormtrooper entry side, and with these new images it's apparent there's noticeable differences in land use and space on the Falcon side of the land too.

What we'll really need to wait for is the final Google Earth images taken about a year from now, when both lands have all their major buildings and people-space areas completed and visible from space. Then you can do a side by side comparison at the exact same scale and see how the differences matter. Or maybe don't matter.

The two lands are each roughly 14 acres, I don't think anyone has ever claimed otherwise. But the two lands are most definitely not clones. Fascinating!
 

TP2000

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The land use is radically different? Radically? o_O

Okay, "radically" is way overboard. It's almost the cocktail hour and I've had a long day of running errands. :arghh:

I think the more appropriate word to use would be "noticeably". The land use is noticeably different between the two lands.

Although, I imagine when the first Disney Vloggers do a coast-to-coast comparison, they will obsess over these differences to such a breathless extent that they will seem radical. But only to about 0.05% of the population. It will be painful to watch, yet hilarious.

I will now celebrate my corrected language and the arrival of the cocktail hour with a Rusty Nail, and I toast you @Dr. Hans Reinhardt and @MisterPenguin and @GrandCanyonConcourse and all my fellow land use friends! Cheers! :)
 
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BrianLo

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Original Poster
So. I took this new picture and overlaid it with a straight-down shot of SWL in DL (from Google Earth) into Photoshop and distorted it to account for the angled view so that its dimensions matched the straight-down view. IOW, I corrected it's slanted view to an orthogonal one.

I then overlaid the corrected photo into Google Earth to match up with the landmarks (buildings and roads). It looks like this...

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I then drew a polygon of the area and let Google Earth tell me how many acres it is. It's 14 acres...

View attachment 251040

Which is exactly what I got from my previous estimate (see quoted post below).

Both Star Wars Lands are 14 acres. As advertised. They are slightly different shapes. But, they are both the same size area-wise.

If anyone wants to say one is bigger than the other from eyeballing views of the lands from different angles and elevations, you're welcome to do so. But, you'd be wrong. And I'll ask for your proof that's more accurate than eyeballing it. And you won't have any.

I really, really, really regret bringing this up because people are so needlessly emotional about this topic. Plus you did such a great job with the DL map.

Is this what you based the acreage measurement on for DHS?

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BrianLo

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Original Poster
Guys, pleeeeeeeaaaaaaaaassssssseeeee if someone starts responding to you about TLJ in this thread, you can copy and paste their quote over in the spoiler thread to redirect them. That's the best way to handle it because it's hard otherwise to just tell people to start talking somewhere else, someone involved has to actually move it.
 

Phroobar

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I see, so its 14 acres at either park but the shape is different enough to make one feel more smaller than the other.

Now I'm wondering if we will see the full size Falcon be installed at both parks at the same time in February/March or will be many months between installations. The picture from China looked like they were equally completed.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
I did... and I'm not (unfortunately) incorrect. The difference is slightly more than half an acre. If I whisper it to you will people not freak out?

Suppose you had a circle that was 14 acres. If you measured it out just an extra 2 feet around, it would be half an acre bigger.

I'm sure they're not absolutely exactly 14 acres each. Where you drop the pins on berms and back stage stuff can create an ambiguity -/+ 1 acre.
 

TP2000

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I see, so its 14 acres at either park but the shape is different enough to make one feel more smaller than the other.

Now I'm wondering if we will see the full size Falcon be installed at both parks at the same time in February/March or will be many months between installations. The picture from China looked like they were equally completed.

I don’t think anything so major as the Falcon prop will be noticeably different. It’s way too early to tell how the land use differences will play out, but I expect to see the biggest differences at the entrances and opening vistas as you walk into the lands. But the two big E Tickets look to be identically sized on both coasts.
 

Practical Pig

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On the land-use front, I'm most interested in how the transition from Critter Country into SW:GE in DL will unfold along that path. This transitional area, missing from the DHS version for practical reasons, has the potential to be a place-making experience that tips the scale towards the Anaheim experience.
 

Mike S

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On the land-use front, I'm most interested in how the transition from Critter Country into SW:GE in DL will unfold along that path. This transitional area, missing from the DHS version for practical reasons, has the potential to be a place-making experience that tips the scale towards the Anaheim experience.
It’ll be the same as how you guys have a little forest before Hogsmeade at Universal Hollywood. In the end it won’t matter much.
 

No Name

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@TP2000 you're really grasping for straws now.

Your statements go against all evidence, logic, and information. You can't look at those photo comparisons with a functioning pair of eyes and conclude that there's less "elbow room" in front of either attraction in DHS. Plus, if the Imagineers needed more room in front of Big Bird, they would be building TSL less egregiously large. If they needed more room in front of Alcatraz, they would be building that berm further back. If they needed more room next to Muppetvision, they would've shifted the entire thing over... over onto the space you claimed didn't exist, and I had to literally draw out for you. The fact that you said the land is "hemmed in rather tightly by World Drive" demonstrates your complete inability to analyze an aerial photo.

But please do keep digging your own grave. I thoroughly enjoy proving you wrong, especially on such an important topic. :rolleyes: Apologies to the rest of you, as always.


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