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rle4lunch

rle4lunch

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IMO, Toontown has always felt cheap. Not necessarily Six Flaggs/Universal (looking at you Dr. Seussville) cheap, but pretty close. There's some elements back there that are decent, but extending FL back there would be better for the future of the park. Disney on a whole needs to focus in on some more boy centric stuff too in FL, besides all the damned princesses.
 
Mike S

Mike S

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rle4lunch said:
IMO, Toontown has always felt cheap. Not necessarily Six Flaggs/Universal (looking at you Dr. Seussville) cheap, but pretty close. There's some elements back there that are decent, but extending FL back there would be better for the future of the park. Disney on a whole needs to focus in on some more boy centric stuff too in FL, besides all the damned princesses.
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Or Toy Story Land cheap. Toontown didn't feel cheap to me when I went to Disneyland though.
 
rle4lunch

rle4lunch

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Mike S said:
Or Toy Story Land cheap. Toontown didn't feel cheap to me when I went to Disneyland though.
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DL definitely has(d) the better of the two parks. I thinks it's just all the plastic back there. Gaudy feeling. Looks like a land full of plastic blown Christmas decorations from the 50's and 60's.

Toy Story at DHS is a joke. Most of the stuff installed in the last 15-20 years at WDW proper has 'value' engineered written all over it. For that matter, most of WDW old FL feels hokey as well compared to DL's FL. Take IASW for instance, WDW's is a joke (the queue is downright pathetic). Pale comparison of DL's. Same goes for POTC. Great queue at WDW, but like 10 minutes shorter! The real winner of the original rides between the two parks is with HM. Both have their own identity and both were extremely well done. Big Thunder at both parks are nearly identical and great. SM is another story. DL's has better dips, but WDW's is a bit faster, the difference in cars makes each ride feel completely different.
 
JediMasterMatt

JediMasterMatt

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Nland316 said:
I know I've seen it around here, and specifically @JediMasterMatt has said it. I don't remember any other users off the top of my head, but I'm positive I've seen it be at least mentioned more than once.
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That's the plan from what I've been told. Frozen occupying the western side of the plot and BTB on the eastern side. Now, it could be that only the Frozen attraction is shared and DL simply gets a BTB area/restaurant; but, I was told attractions and the person who told me usually uses the DL vernacular for attraction (ride) and not the WDW meaning (meet-and-grope/restaurant/photo spot).

It still think this is very, very blue sky still and a won't be in motion until after SWL and Marvel are wrapping up.

The drive and desire to do something with this plot of land is 100% there though. It needs to be usable the entire day. The SW shuffle almost landed there. It's only a matter of time before something is done.
 
Old Mouseketeer

Old Mouseketeer

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rle4lunch said:
SM is another story. DL's has better dips, but WDW's is a bit faster, the difference in cars makes each ride feel completely different.
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Seriously? I watched both SMs being built and rode them both in CM previews. WDW SM is as physically abusive and unrideable as DL's Matterhorn, if not more so. I refuse to ride either one. I rode Matterhorn one time after the addition of the new special effects (which I really like). But I have no desire to be thrown around like that ever again. The refurb at DL was superb. It's darker, smoother, and better than ever.

Yes, each ride feels completely different: one is exciting and enjoyable; the other is visually enjoyable and physically painful.
 
Mike S

Mike S

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Old Mouseketeer said:
Seriously? I watched both SMs being built and rode them both in CM previews. WDW SM is as physically abusive and unrideable as DL's Matterhorn, if not more so. I refuse to ride either one. I rode Matterhorn one time after the addition of the new special effects (which I really like). But I have no desire to be thrown around like that ever again. The refurb at DL was superb. It's darker, smoother, and better than ever.

Yes, each ride feels completely different: one is exciting and enjoyable; the other is visually enjoyable and physically painful.
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If only that refurb wasn't cut short before they could replace the track.
 
rle4lunch

rle4lunch

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Old Mouseketeer said:
Seriously? I watched both SMs being built and rode them both in CM previews. WDW SM is as physically abusive and unrideable as DL's Matterhorn, if not more so. I refuse to ride either one. I rode Matterhorn one time after the addition of the new special effects (which I really like). But I have no desire to be thrown around like that ever again. The refurb at DL was superb. It's darker, smoother, and better than ever.

Yes, each ride feels completely different: one is exciting and enjoyable; the other is visually enjoyable and physically painful.
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Agree on Matterhorn. The new effects are awesome, but the ride itself is still awful. Without a track replacement no amount of train car padding or upgrade is really going to help.

I've never found WDW SM herky jerky like you're talking about. We go back in December, I'll see if I notice it then.
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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Unfortunately, you can never replace the track on the Matterhorn. The Matterhorn is the first steel coaster where the track was bent manually into shape and placed into the mountain. In order to replace the track, the entire mountain would have to be rebuild. WDW SM follows the same track layout as the Matterhorn except it is freestanding in a room. That makes it easier to replace but WDW doesn't care to do a real track replacement.
 
FoodRockz

FoodRockz

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Endor Sightseer said:
WDW Space Mountain actually has dips. DL's has one. You mostly just glide around.
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Correct!

And I would be very disappointed to see Roger Rabbit go. I've only been to DLR once (last year), but I truly enjoyed that attraction. I did get the feeling that the ride system may be irritating to maintain though.
 
dweezil78

dweezil78

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Mike S said:
All WDW needs is a smoother track and other upgrades and it's clearly the superior version.
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Lol, you are basically saying that all WDW's needs is to be completely rebuilt and then it will be better. I'm a lifelong WDW fanboy and their version was the one I knew for over a decade before getting out to DL. Aside from the queue (not counting the loading station) and the original 70s music, I have to say DL's has it beat in every other way.
 
Mike S

Mike S

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dweezil78 said:
Lol, you are basically saying that all WDW's needs is to be completely rebuilt and then it will be better. I'm a lifelong WDW fanboy and their version was the one I knew for over a decade before getting out to DL. Aside from the queue (not counting the loading station) and the original 70s music, I have to say DL's has it beat in every other way.
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I know that. I'm just saying if WDW's got the full refurb it was supposed to in 2009 we wouldn't be having this debate. When the lights are on you can see the spray paint marks where they would've cut and replaced the track.
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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So I wonder how long it will be until WDW's Space Mountain has a major structural problems like Disneyland's did back in 2003. I remember being on the last car that night before the park closed and Space Mountain went into referb for 18 months with a new track.
 

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