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Californian Elitist

Californian Elitist

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wdwbaw said:
And that is exactly the problem. There is nothing I can do to change it, because the damage is already done. A HUGE amount of expansion space is being wasted on an area that will only have two rides, both of which will be almost impossible to get on due to the fact that the capacity will be way too low. Look at the rest of the park. Attractions are stuffed into every nook and cranny you can imagine. This expansion space should have been used much more carefully. Let this sink in: once SWE opens there will be NO expansion space left. None. Disneyland is built out. I have no problem with Star Wars attractions and other IPs in Disneyland, but the fact that soooooo much space is being dedicated to a single IP in Walt's park is an abomination.

For the most part, the fan community has disappointed me with how this has progressed, except for a select few members such as @raven24 and @WDW1974 . Most "fans" don't seem to understand the basics anymore. Not only will this be an operational nightmare, it totally goes against what Disneyland has been all about for over six decades.
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You're wasting your time with this thread.

Let them have this thread for positivity and updates. I welcome you to comment in my opposing views/negativity thread.
 
mickEblu

mickEblu

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raven24 said:
You're wasting your time with this thread.

Let them have this thread for positivity and updates. I welcome you to comment in my opposing views/negativity thread.
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Why do things either have to be either positive Or negative? Why cant their be room for both? Things aren't so black and white. Maybe I wasn't following the last few pages of posts close enough, but it doesn't seem like anyone was dismissing @wdwbaw 's opinion. Are you upset because pro-SWL opinions aren't changing?
 
SuddenStorm

SuddenStorm

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TP2000 said:
Or like adding an antiseptic New Orleans Square with singing pirates changed it forever in '66, or replacing the real culture of the Indian Village with the singing robot animal culture of Bear Country changed it in '72. Or adding a bizarrely placed museum diorama of the Grand Canyon to the railroad just after Tomorrowland and the TWA rocket changed it in '58, and then in another mind-warping and non-sensical move adding robot dinosaurs after the static diorama display in '66. Or having a dead President, who everyone knows was shot in the back in 1865, give speeches in the opera house of an American small town set forty years after his assassination. None of that makes sense thematically. But it happened, and Walt did most of it, and it's beloved by everyone. Because Walt. And that bottle of Scotch he kept in his office.
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Very valid points, but to be fair most of those were original ideas, with Disney innovating and trying things that hadn't been done before both creatively and technologically. With SWE, they're building it as a direct response to Harry Potter, using an IP that wasn't created by Disney (although it does work well with other Disney properties, and has been successful in Disneyland already), and using technology we've all already seen. Many would likely disagree, but I don't believe SWE experience is Disneyland innovating. It isn't Disneyland growing. It's a tumor that Disney is trying desperately to hide from the rest of the park, almost as if when you're there, they want you to forget you're in Disneyland, and they want Disneyland to go on without it being visible.

But personally, I don't think Disney needed to respond to Harry Potter, and people are still crowding the parks.

I have no doubts that the land will be well themed, amazing, and I'll likely enjoy it's attractions (even though I don't think flying the Millenium Falcon, and going between a battle with the First Order and the Resistance to be very creative ideas, and they're gonna have to be executed perfectly). I just wish we could have gotten a land that none of us expected, with the Imagineers using original ideas and trying new things.
 
SSG

SSG

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mickEblu said:
Why do things either have to be either positive Or negative? Why cant their be room for both? Things aren't so black and white. Maybe I wasn't following the last few pages of posts close enough, but it doesn't seem like anyone was dismissing @wdwbaw 's opinion. Are you upset because pro-SWL opinions aren't changing?
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Yes.
 
Californian Elitist

Californian Elitist

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mickEblu said:
Why do things either have to be either positive Or negative? Why cant their be room for both? Things aren't so black and white. Maybe I wasn't following the last few pages of posts close enough, but it doesn't seem like anyone was dismissing @wdwbaw 's opinion. Are you upset because pro-SWL opinions aren't changing?
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Did you participate in the very first thread in this forum that was dedicated to this subject? Things started out okay, and eventually all hell broke loose and it got VERY ugly. Notice that thread hasn't showed up recently in the queue in months.

That is the reason I created a separate thread for those of us opposing this decision. Opinions were definitely dismissed in the first thread. There should be a thread for those who support it and one for those who don't. Another reason I created my thread is because I would like to continue expressing why I hate this decision and not have to worry about seeing construction photos and learning about updates. That's what this thread is for, and I'm not here to rain on anyone's parade.

I couldn't care less about anyone's support of this project. The only reason I came to this thread to comment is because I was tagged and I felt it would be rude of me not to respond. This is my second and most likely will be my last post in this thread.

Carry on, folks.
 
mickEblu

mickEblu

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raven24 said:
Did you participate in the very first thread in this forum that was dedicated to this subject? Things started out okay, and eventually all hell broke loose and it got VERY ugly. Notice that thread hasn't showed up recently in the queue in months.

That is the reason I created a separate thread for those of us opposing this decision. Opinions were definitely dismissed in the first thread. There should be a thread for those who support it and one for those who don't. Another reason I created my thread is because I would like to continue expressing why I hate this decision and not have to worry about seeing construction photos and learning about updates. That's what this thread is for, and I'm not here to rain on anyone's parade.

I couldn't care less about anyone's support of this project. The only reason I came to this thread to comment is because I was tagged and I felt it would be rude of me not to respond. This is my second and most likely will be my last post in this thread.

Carry on, folks.
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Just to clarify, I personally welcome your opinion on any thread: And Yeah, I remember what you re referring to. That wasn't cool. I was only referring to recent events. I think your thread is fine as this one is. Why I really commented was your comment along the lines of " your wasting your time, let this thread be for positivity and updates. I guess what I don't understand is why there is no room for discussion between folks with differing opinions?
 
NobodyElse

NobodyElse

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1023 said:
Well.... It's not anything you've ever been on before... So..... Art will be leaked this summer I'm guessing....
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SuddenStorm said:
With SWE, they're building it as a direct response to Harry Potter, using an IP that wasn't created by Disney (although it does work well with other Disney properties, and has been successful in Disneyland already), and using technology we've all already seen.
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"Two men say they're Jesus, one of them must be wrong"
-Dire Straits, Industrial Disease
 
FerretAfros

FerretAfros

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danlb_2000 said:
Yeah, I think the Mice Chat article mentioned a multi-level attraction so this could be for elevators to go between the levels.
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It's been widely reported that there will be multiple levels requiring elevators to change grade, similar to the Transformers attraction, which will of course require elevator pits for the equipment. However, I don't think that elevators (even industrial sized) would need to have pits as broad or as deep (based on the shadows) as what they're doing

I think it was @marni1971 who said that the pit would be part of the attraction's finale, which implies that it will be for some sort of special effect and/or oversized set. Given the ride's subject matter, it's not too hard for me to imagine why they might need sort of deep-but-narrow show space while attempting to escape from the Death Star...

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britain

britain

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FerretAfros said:
It's been widely reported that there will be multiple levels requiring elevators to change grade, similar to the Transformers attraction, which will of course require elevator pits for the equipment. However, I don't think that elevators (even industrial sized) would need to have pits as broad or as deep (based on the shadows) as what they're doing
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Remember those really wide platforms in the Death Star that would bring a platoon of Stormtroopers from a lower level up to the level the Falcon was docked at? I wonder if guests will be lifted or lowered on one of those wide, guard-rail-less elevators? The lawyers probably wouldn't like that idea.
 
Professortango1

Professortango1

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wdwbaw said:
Let this sink in: once SWE opens there will be NO expansion space left. None. Disneyland is built out. I have no problem with Star Wars attractions and other IPs in Disneyland, but the fact that soooooo much space is being dedicated to a single IP in Walt's park is an abomination.
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There's still the giant underutilized chunk of land which is currently the Autopia, Motorboat Cruise, and Finding Nemo Submarines. That area has had a target on it's back for years and eventually it will happen. While the park can't expand, there is still large pieces of land to create new experiences without disrupting any attractions which remain significant.

While I personally think Star Wars would have belonged much more in a 3rd gate, that wasn't really an option as there isn't a third gate won't be one for quite a bit. The options for the west coast is then DCA or DL. DCA is based in California and the history of it, so Star Wars doesn't really fit unless it is supposed to be a giant set on a backlot (doesn't work). Disneyland represents far away lands of fantasy and adventure. Star Wars Land is a much better fit for this park.

I think they should have ripped out the area I noted earlier and have a new Tomorrowland which transitions to a Star Wars sub-land much like how Diagon Alley is an offshoot of the London area or how The Lost Continent transitions into Hogsmede. It would also fit thematically as Star Wars is between Sci-Fi and Fantasy.

As for the current location of the new land. It isn't bad. Frontierland hasn't had an expansion idea that got very far in quite awhile. I heard a Kansas State Faire would take us to an Oz attraction, but the film didn't do nearly as well as they had hoped. Lone Ranger was a bomb. With no foreseeable Frontierland expansion, this space would have remained off limits for expansion, especially as the popularity of whatever they were putting in there would need to justify the cost of moving Circle D Ranch and the backstage facilities. They wouldn't do that for Western River Expedition or anything of that kind as the guaranteed draw isn't there.
 

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