News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021

TP2000

Well-Known Member
My dad actually used to do Civil War re-enactments. It was a trip as a kid to watch him go into battle, get killed, fall down dead, and then later get resurrected so he could take us to McDonalds for a Happy Meal... just like in 1863!

I had similar mind-scrambling experiences, but I was already an adult. When I lived in New England, I had some friends who were into Revolutionary War re-enactments. They dressed up in elaborate 1760's garb, even their wives/dates, and acted out battles against the British. There was a big social event every year, I hazily remember it being called The Patriots Ball, where they all dressed up in their finest Colonial wear, and us mere mortals attended in regular suits and cocktail dresses. A creaky band called The Suburbanaires played at the ball every year, and they had a calcified party set they played without fail. The party really got going around 9pm when the band predictably crashed into Hang On Sloopy! and all these middle aged Colonial folks in breeches and ball gowns and powdered wigs would rush the dance floor to Frug the night away. It was surreal and hilariously memorable. :rolleyes: 🤣

I had no idea that sort of thing was called LARP back then. When was that name invented, anyway? I'm guessing it was fairly recently in time. No one in New England called it that back then, I would remember if they did.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
My dad actually used to do Civil War re-enactments. It was a trip as a kid to watch him go into battle, get killed, fall down dead, and then later get resurrected so he could take us to McDonalds for a Happy Meal... just like in 1863!
I actually hope to do some re-enactment at some point (times a wasting)…

but jokes aside I love it. Every day is a good day to study/reflect history. Attended/worked on a little summer research project at a tiny little civil war battlefield in Pennsylvania in college one year…

and I’ve attended a few revolutionary war re-enactments over the years…my personal preference if the seven years war is off the table.
 

Mac Tonight

Well-Known Member
I had similar mind-scrambling experiences, but I was already an adult. When I lived in New England, I had some friends who were into Revolutionary War re-enactments. They dressed up in elaborate 1760's garb, even their wives/dates, and acted out battles against the British. There was a big social event every year, I hazily remember it being called The Patriots Ball, where they all dressed up in their finest Colonial wear, and us mere mortals attended in regular suits and cocktail dresses. A creaky band called The Suburbanaires played at the ball every year, and they had a calcified party set they played without fail. The party really got going around 9pm when the band predictably crashed into Hang On Sloopy! and all these middle aged Colonial folks in breeches and ball gowns and powdered wigs would rush the dance floor to Frug the night away. It was surreal and hilariously memorable. :rolleyes: 🤣

I had no idea that sort of thing was called LARP back then. When was that name invented, anyway? I'm guessing it was fairly recently in time. No one in New England called it that back then, I would remember if they did.
That sounds great!

No clue when or where the term LARP came from. I don't recall ever hearing it before the early 00's... but to be fair, that wasn't really my scene.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I had similar mind-scrambling experiences, but I was already an adult. When I lived in New England, I had some friends who were into Revolutionary War re-enactments. They dressed up in elaborate 1760's garb, even their wives/dates, and acted out
…that’s so hot 🤗
 
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mightynine

Well-Known Member
I had similar mind-scrambling experiences, but I was already an adult. When I lived in New England, I had some friends who were into Revolutionary War re-enactments. They dressed up in elaborate 1760's garb, even their wives/dates, and acted out battles against the British. There was a big social event every year, I hazily remember it being called The Patriots Ball, where they all dressed up in their finest Colonial wear, and us mere mortals attended in regular suits and cocktail dresses. A creaky band called The Suburbanaires played at the ball every year, and they had a calcified party set they played without fail. The party really got going around 9pm when the band predictably crashed into Hang On Sloopy! and all these middle aged Colonial folks in breeches and ball gowns and powdered wigs would rush the dance floor to Frug the night away. It was surreal and hilariously memorable. :rolleyes: 🤣

I had no idea that sort of thing was called LARP back then. When was that name invented, anyway? I'm guessing it was fairly recently in time. No one in New England called it that back then, I would remember if they did.
I would say in this example, the re-enactments were the live-action role playing, while the social event was just a costume party.
 

Mac Tonight

Well-Known Member
I actually hope to do some re-enactment at some point (times a wasting)…

but jokes aside I love it. Every day is a good day to study/reflect history. Attended/worked on a little summer research project at a tiny little civil war battlefield in Pennsylvania in college one year…

and I’ve attended a few revolutionary war re-enactments over the years…my personal preference if the seven years war is off the table.
I'd like to go back and re-visit the battlefields. In Jr. High I went on the Spring Break trip back east and well, lets just say my 13 year old brain probably didn't absorb that much of their significance.
 

OceanBlue

Active Member
That's always been my concern. I'm not into LARPing but was thinking of going. I'd likely annoy guests with my cosplay at best. Some will LARP, some between, some not at all. Part of why I chose to wait. But those wanting full immersion LARP like I doubt this will be that because of other's comfort levels.
I thought Batuu has locals, and a lot of those locals are on the starcruiser as well...
 

Incomudro

Well-Known Member
That sounds great!

No clue when or where the term LARP came from. I don't recall ever hearing it before the early 00's... but to be fair, that wasn't really my scene.
The term was derived by the people that do these things, so that they didn't sound as silly doing them.
Saying "I dress up as _______ and pretend I'm that character all day" at the age of 30 can be cringey.
Saying "I LARP" takes some of that off.
It's like saying "I'm a gamer" is more palatable than saying "I play video games all day."
I'm not trying to pass judgement, I really believe the terminology was deliberate.
 

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HOUSE OF MAGIC
Premium Member
You Mean the people that keep re-enacting a war they lost? 😶
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...it's educational and entertaining.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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You don’t need to be a character to LARP. The interaction with characters is LARPing.

By going to a meet and greet, and by interacting with a Disney princess, you are extending the olive branch that they’re a real princess. If you meet Aurora, she’d ask “and where are my princesses and princesses from?” Your response is furthering a LARP.

This conversation stemmed from the comment by @sedati that inherently connected theme parks with LARPing, and I agree. LARPing is just playing along. There’s varying degrees to that. The suspension of disbelief is integral to both theme parks and LARPing.

Crush’s coaster in DLP exists. At no point do you feel like you’re under the ocean swimming with Crush and Nemo. But on Rise, you genuinely feel like you’re in a Star Wars story.

This interaction is LARPing:

“How many people are on this Star Cruiser?”

“That’s classified”

“That’s why I’m here (to find out about classified First Order information)”

Taking a photo with an individual wearing a Pinocchio costume, is not LARPing, but taking a photo with someone acting like Pinocchio is. My meeting with Pinocchio as a 5-year-old was uneventful at Magic Kingdom. We took a photo, we left. It was just a photo. My interaction with Pinocchio at Hollywood Studios, on the other hand, was magical, and from my perspective a LARP. He was behaving as Pinocchio would behave in real life, and I was going along with him.

Just as @TP2000 said, I don’t believe there’s a LARPing expectation when going to a Disney park for the majority of people, but I’d argue it’s become an increasing component. The majority of things to do are not LARPing, but I don’t believe LARPing is as rigid as it’s being made out to be.

Some of the best moments in the parks are when LARPs occur, and they’re primarily driven by individuals, and they’re, in the end, what makes the parks special.
You seem to be using the word "LARP" in a colloquial way - it does stand for "Live Action Role Play", but the term was invented to refer to a particular kind of game with a particular set of rules.

Not everything that is technically "live action role playing" is also a "LARP". You wouldn't call Cosplaying at Comic Con a "LARP" . . . unless you, like, formally arranged a LARP at it. It's its own distinct term outside of merely meeting the definition of the acronym, which is part of the distinction I was trying to make.

If I buy a car in Bavaria that was hand-built by a guy down the road, that is technically a "Bavarian Motor Work", but it CERTAINLY isn't a BMW. You know?
 

durangojim

Well-Known Member
You're going to spend that kind of money and not experience the one of a kind drinks? How much drinking does one need to do anyway? This isn't present-day EPCOT, you might actually want to remember your day.
Lol, one of a kind sickly sweet drinks are something I can do without. I don’t drink anymore but when I did I’d rather have a top shelf old fashioned or a nice glass of a single malt over any of the drinks at Ogas and the starcruiser as well I’m sure.
 
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durangojim

Well-Known Member
To put this very bluntly...we do not care about the family that's in slinky dog tee shirts. This kind of thing isn't a fancy restaurant where a noisy family rolls in wearing crocs and matching tie dye shirts and everyone glares. We aren't actually looking for the casual observers at all, we're looking for other people to RP with. It's more like spotting someone in your team's jersey while at an away game. When you're the visiting team you don't go looking for the home team fans and then complain about them. You try and find some fellow fans of your team to enjoy the day with. So we aren't out here to be annoyed by the people not joining in, we're looking for the people who are so we can continue our fun.
Funny, I don’t recall speaking about you, rather I was speaking about folks on another board who were complaining about people not dressing up. Not sure why you seem to have taken it personally. I think it’s great that won’t bother you! I also thought that when I said a handful I meant very few.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
You seem to be using the word "LARP" in a colloquial way - it does stand for "Live Action Role Play", but the term was invented to refer to a particular kind of game with a particular set of rules.

Language usage dictates language meaning.

First there were RPGs, Role-Playing Games, like Dungeons & Dragons. That was table-top and with dice. Other RPGs developed that didn't necessarily need dice or keeping track of technical gaming mechanics because it was more Role-Play than Game (such as the Amber RPG based on Zelazny's Amber series of novels).

The kind of LARPs that people think about from the famous viral video in which a 'wizard' is throwing bean bags yelling "Lightning bolt! Lightning bolt! Lightning bolt!" is just one type of Live Action Role-Playing *GAME*. The "game" is the important part here. The scenario I just described is technically a LARPG, but, for simplicity, people drop the G.

Without a gaming component, it's just Role-Playing. Improvised Comedy is Role-Playing. Marital bedroom activities can be considered 'role-playing.'

From all the promotional material (the pages and pages of stuff that isn't a cringey video) that has come out. The Starcruiser will attempt to get everyone involved in a LARP and a LARPG. As a LARP, you can just roll along with being 'in character' in the Star Wars universe.

OR... you can get involved in some of the plots that pit you against an adversary (even if the adversary is a locked door). We've seen that in the hints about joining the rebels or the First Order and seeing which faction 'wins.' That's *gaming*, which makes it a LARPG.

You can LARP or LARPG or watch.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
You can LARP or LARPG or watch.

Okay. And I appreciate your explanation.

But if I wait in line to get my picture taken with Mickey Mouse, I'm just waiting in line to get my picture taken with Mickey Mouse, right? I'm not LARP'ing by doing that, am I?

I just get so confused and baffled by all this stuff. Going to Disneyland for the day used to mean just going to Disneyland for the day. But now it also means LARP'ing? Or not LARP'ing, but still humbly supportive of the LARP community?

To be honest, I just like to go to Disney theme parks every once in awhile. And sometimes I like to get my picture taken with a short lady wearing a mouse costume. LARP? Or just a Saturday at Disneyland?
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Okay. And I appreciate your explanation.

But if I wait in line to get my picture taken with Mickey Mouse, I'm just waiting in line to get my picture taken with Mickey Mouse, right? I'm not LARP'ing by doing that, am I?

I just get so confused and baffled by all this stuff. Going to Disneyland for the day used to mean just going to Disneyland for the day. But now it also means LARP'ing? Or not LARP'ing, but still humbly supportive of the LARP community?

To be honest, I just like to go to Disney theme parks every once in awhile. And sometimes I like to get my picture taken with a short lady wearing a mouse costume. LARP? Or just a Saturday at Disneyland?
You admit your confused about it, but, at the same time, you're sure it will be awful.

Excuse me if I don't think your follow-up questions are sincere.
 

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