News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021

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kingdead

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It's not LARPing, don't worry. Unless you and your friends have made up elaborate backstories where you are Mickey's paladins Goofy the bard, Donald the archer, and Pluto the werewolf and you must achieve a goal of saving the princess of Splash Mountain (possibly contingent on dice rolls), you're not LARPing. Shaking Mickey's hand isn't the same thing.

To get back on topic, this does seem to be scheduled like a cruise, and the "aliens" are cruise talent in makeup. Hopefully LARPers who want to "live their story" have a chance to do so.
 
durangojim

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mergatroid

mergatroid

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WDWJoeG said:
I'm fine passing judgment - and that is with full self-awareness I'm posting on a Disney theme park message board.

I only hope the cringeworthy videos of them parading around in their costumes playing dress-up and story time are going to be as entertaining as these posts trying to normalize that behavior and compare it to just visiting a theme park.

Keep it coming, it's hysterical!
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I've witnessed multiple grown men and woman at Universal dressed as Harry Potter characters. One group were stood with their wands out in Diagon Alley shouting at each other when a man in a wheelchair asked if he could get past them. I looked on in shock as a guy in his 30's said "We're wizards casting spells, can't you go round"? :eek:
 
Tha Realest

Tha Realest

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mergatroid said:
I've witnessed multiple grown men and woman at Universal dressed as Harry Potter characters. One group were stood with their wands out in Diagon Alley shouting at each other when a man in a wheelchair asked if he could get past them. I looked on in shock as a guy in his 30's said "We're wizards casting spells, can't you go round"? :eek:
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Unbelievable. I almost came up with another meaning for LARP in which the A stood for an impolite term but it would likely result in a violation of board policies.
 
disneygeek90

disneygeek90

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mergatroid said:
I've witnessed multiple grown men and woman at Universal dressed as Harry Potter characters. One group were stood with their wands out in Diagon Alley shouting at each other when a man in a wheelchair asked if he could get past them. I looked on in shock as a guy in his 30's said "We're wizards casting spells, can't you go round"? :eek:
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That's not a LARP, that's a LARsehole.
 
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Fido Chuckwagon

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
Just to be clear: there is ZERO correlation between this and a Super Bowl. It’s not in the same “Galaxy” as another has said.

the only loose correlations are cruise ships. Compare prices there and you won’t like what you’ll find if you’re predetermined to talk about “magical Disney experiences” 🙄

…so we can skip Hamilton and Taylor Swift Tix too 👍🏻
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These cruise ship comparisons don’t really work with though. Like, part of the allure of a cruise ship is you are on a ship on the ocean and go places. Does anyone really think that if Royal Caribbean built a building with tiny cruise ship rooms and charged the normal prices and put the normal cruise ship activities in that building that they would be able to market that?
 
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Fido Chuckwagon

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
i expected that with this as well. But as with everything: if they could book this cash, DVC points wouldn’t be accepted.
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Meh, I don’t think that’s right. Disney makes a mint essentially buying back owners dvc points through these crappy exchanges (cruises, etc), and then effectively renting the points out themselves by using them to increase their cash room inventory in the dvc proprerties. Because of this Disney almost certainly makes more in the long run from an owner booking with points then from a straight cash booking.
 
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brideck

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MisterPenguin said:
First there were RPGs, Role-Playing Games, like Dungeons & Dragons.
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Technically, the concept of LARPing predates any table-top games taking on a role-playing aspect. It was initially popularized in the '60s by groups like the Society for Creative Anachronism and then applied to medieval wargames, which in turn spawned D&D. Splitting hairs, I know.

Edit: Apparently Wikipedia would have you believe that LARPing and being a historical recreationist are two different things, where LARPing necessitates a game of some kind, but that strikes me as a revisionist take. Historical recreation begat TTRPGs (at least in part), which begat LARPGs? I guess. I'd personally say that any time there's a well-understood shared world that you're participating in, you're LARPing.

Speaking as someone booked on the Starcruiser for mid-April, the LARPing aspect is what makes this unique and (if done well) worth the cost. I am not a "major" Star Wars fan, nor am I an aspiring actor, nor do I frequent the Ren Fair circuit, but I think it seems like a fun and interesting experience. Trying to figure out what our wardrobe might be and debating which side we want to play has already been a lot of fun for me and my spouse. We shouldn't underestimate the possibility that there are plenty of people out there like me who don't fit into an easy category, but would still be interested in this. After all, there are over 10 million active players of D&D alone.
 
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mergatroid

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You people complaining and comparing it to a cruise do know that those going know they're not going on an actual cruise don't you? It's merely part of a story line to allow you to 'believe' that you're 'going into space' by giving you a reason to do so. It wouldn't surprise me if the same people complaining about it being called a 'cruise' are the same people that are questioning how 'immersive' it will be without seeing the irony? I wonder if they ride Kilimanjaro Safari in the Animal Kingdom and then complain that they waited for 30 mins in the line believing they were actually going to Africa and didn't? :D
 
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brideck said:
Technically, the concept of LARPing predates any table-top games taking on a role-playing aspect. It was initially popularized in the '60s by groups like the Society for Creative Anachronism and then applied to medieval wargames, which in turn spawned D&D. Splitting hairs, I know.

Edit: Apparently Wikipedia would have you believe that LARPing and being a historical recreationist are two different things, where LARPing necessitates a game of some kind, but that strikes me as a revisionist take. Historical recreation begat TTRPGs (at least in part), which begat LARPGs? I guess. I'd personally say that any time there's a well-understood shared world that you're participating in, you're LARPing.

Speaking as someone booked on the Starcruiser for mid-April, the LARPing aspect is what makes this unique and (if done well) worth the cost. I am not a "major" Star Wars fan, nor am I an aspiring actor, nor do I frequent the Ren Fair circuit, but I think it seems like a fun and interesting experience. Trying to figure out what our wardrobe might be and debating which side we want to play has already been a lot of fun for me and my spouse. We shouldn't underestimate the possibility that there are plenty of people out there like me who don't fit into an easy category, but would still be interested in this. After all, there are over 10 million active players of D&D alone.
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Dagohir's site would imply a 1977 start for LARPing and not the 60s. As it was D&D was inspired by a different game. Many do believe LARPing was inspired by these RPGs and definitely not the other way around as you are saying.

I do consider reenactments different but use them as an example. They are lacking some of the structure though. So the Society for Creative Anachronism is not LARPing but recreating like civil war reenactments.

As a huge SW fan but one who doesn't like anything much like LARPing, I'm backing off until I think I'd be more fitting. I hope you have fun though.
 
Rickcat96

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mergatroid said:
You people complaining and comparing it to a cruise do know that those going know they're not going on an actual cruise don't you? It's merely part of a story line to allow you to 'believe' that you're 'going into space' by giving you a reason to do so. It wouldn't surprise me if the same people complaining about it being called a 'cruise' are the same people that are questioning how 'immersive' it will be without seeing the irony? I wonder if they ride Kilimanjaro Safari in the Animal Kingdom and then complain that they waited for 30 mins in the line believing they were actually going to Africa and didn't? :D
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Last month I had dinner at Space 220, it was really good. I know I was in space because I watched the elevator take me there. The return to Earth was just as good.
 
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brideck

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helenabear said:
Dagohir's site would imply a 1977 start for LARPing and not the 60s. As it was D&D was inspired by a different game. Many do believe LARPing was inspired by these RPGs and definitely not the other way around as you are saying.

I do consider reenactments different but use them as an example. They are lacking some of the structure though. So the Society for Creative Anachronism is not LARPing but recreating like civil war reenactments.

As a huge SW fan but one who doesn't like anything much like LARPing, I'm backing off until I think I'd be more fitting. I hope you have fun though.
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D&D was inspired by a lot of things, and the SCA was definitely among them. If you're interested in D&D's history and roots, I strongly recommend the book "Playing at the World."

The problem for me with labeling the SCA as just reenactors is that they weren't really trying to reenact anything specific, especially in the early days, just medieval society more broadly. People created their own characters that they would portray at get togethers, but they were very strictly not allowed to be actual historical figures. That strikes me as different from Civil War folks trying to reenact a particular skirmish or Dagohir, which just involves a lot more swinging of weapons and a lot less actual role playing of any kind.

I think if you went to an SCA event in the late 60s that it would look a lot like a modern medieval LARP event, just without the formal game elements. Similarly, a stay on the Starcruiser will most likely feature role-playing without any formal game elements. It's all semantics, though, as it seems that the term LARP has been officially pigeonholed into a more specific definition than I would personally use.
 
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Fido Chuckwagon said:
These cruise ship comparisons don’t really work with though. Like, part of the allure of a cruise ship is you are on a ship on the ocean and go places. Does anyone really think that if Royal Caribbean built a building with tiny cruise ship rooms and charged the normal prices and put the normal cruise ship activities in that building that they would be able to market that?
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Doubt Royal would even try. Had to look up some numbers for this comparison. Royal Caribbean is spending about the same cost as Galaxy's Edge (one billion USD) for their next-generation cruise ship powered by LNG and capable of hosting 5,600 passengers. It's a totally different game the two companies are playing. Though Disney is bringing the comparison on themselves when it's marketed as a cruise, planned like a cruise, and looks kinda like a cruise. As said previously, Disney should've kept the marketing in-universe plus a theatrical-styled trailer or three. None of this behind-the-scenes "excitement" marketing has been putting out.
 

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