News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021

SWGalaxys_Edge

SWGalaxys_Edge

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Bob Chapek greeting guests of the Halcyon

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correcaminos

correcaminos

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brideck said:
D&D was inspired by a lot of things, and the SCA was definitely among them. If you're interested in D&D's history and roots, I strongly recommend the book "Playing at the World."

The problem for me with labeling the SCA as just reenactors is that they weren't really trying to reenact anything specific, especially in the early days, just medieval society more broadly. People created their own characters that they would portray at get togethers, but they were very strictly not allowed to be actual historical figures. That strikes me as different from Civil War folks trying to reenact a particular skirmish or Dagohir, which just involves a lot more swinging of weapons and a lot less actual role playing of any kind.

I think if you went to an SCA event in the late 60s that it would look a lot like a modern medieval LARP event, just without the formal game elements. Similarly, a stay on the Starcruiser will most likely feature role-playing without any formal game elements. It's all semantics, though, as it seems that the term LARP has been officially pigeonholed into a more specific definition than I would personally use.
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Didn't mean SCA is just reenacting, just that it is closer to it to me than LARP. You hit on why above. It's not enough of a game. While I think the cruiser could be close to LARPing, it also may not be close in actuality. It's why I used different terms myself for it. I think personally it is better to use what you feel is too pigeonholed the way it is officially used as it's what those who enjoy it use. That's just me. I only said something because you told another they were wrong on the history of each, when reality was they were correct as I was schooled to know histories myself when I got it wrong. People here are constantly confusing what is what which is understandable as fine lines exist for a reason.

IMO these people on the cruiser will be OC cosplaying (original character- aka made up or background character) at best, which is not LARPing either. While I do enjoy that some, 2 days is a bit much for me at the moment.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

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Fido Chuckwagon said:
Meh, I don’t think that’s right. Disney makes a mint essentially buying back owners dvc points through these crappy exchanges (cruises, etc), and then effectively renting the points out themselves by using them to increase their cash room inventory in the dvc proprerties. Because of this Disney almost certainly makes more in the long run from an owner booking with points then from a straight cash booking.
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Ripping off the points is one thing…but selling DVC rooms at cash is very much overestimated. They don’t pimp very many of those rooms for cash…because the whole point of the DVC conversions in the first place is that they couldn’t sell the rooms at cash.

in the last 10 years…DVC is given a lot “credit” for things it does not do…like giving Disney this big war chest of cash…which it never did. It’s to get people there to spend more money…it always was and will be…no matter what their policies are to the members. Which are quite bad as it stands.
 
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sedati

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J4546 said:
the video they showed of this lightsaber thing looked kinda like ****, it looked like something that at least should have been part of the lightsaber building thats already in GE
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There was a patent for a lightsaber that would actually have flashes along the blade to indicate a deflection hit. In the video it's hard to make out but there's what looks like either a projection effect or fibre optics in the wall showing the lingering effects of a blast. The video was underwhelming, but I'd still wait and see what the final result is.
 
Rich Brownn

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brideck said:
Technically, the concept of LARPing predates any table-top games taking on a role-playing aspect. It was initially popularized in the '60s by groups like the Society for Creative Anachronism and then applied to medieval wargames, which in turn spawned D&D. Splitting hairs, I know.

Edit: Apparently Wikipedia would have you believe that LARPing and being a historical recreationist are two different things, where LARPing necessitates a game of some kind, but that strikes me as a revisionist take. Historical recreation begat TTRPGs (at least in part), which begat LARPGs? I guess. I'd personally say that any time there's a well-understood shared world that you're participating in, you're LARPing.

Speaking as someone booked on the Starcruiser for mid-April, the LARPing aspect is what makes this unique and (if done well) worth the cost. I am not a "major" Star Wars fan, nor am I an aspiring actor, nor do I frequent the Ren Fair circuit, but I think it seems like a fun and interesting experience. Trying to figure out what our wardrobe might be and debating which side we want to play has already been a lot of fun for me and my spouse. We shouldn't underestimate the possibility that there are plenty of people out there like me who don't fit into an easy category, but would still be interested in this. After all, there are over 10 million active players of D&D alone.
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LARP is for fun. Things like the SCA are fun and learning (You have to be historically accurate in name, etc. I was a member for many years and let me tell you getting your name and shield through the heralds is a nightmare!)
 
Tha Realest

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Morkey Moose said:
Just got an alert that the earnings call is this Wednesday. It'll be interesting to see what they say (or don't) about this. The current availability is, admittedly, not a great look.
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Keep in mind that they boasted to investors previously the four month sellout. Since that has clearly changed, they have an obligation to address it. Of course, like everything else they’ll hand waive and say “Oh Omicron” or something.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Morkey Moose said:
Just got an alert that the earnings call is this Wednesday. It'll be interesting to see what they say (or don't) about this. The current availability is, admittedly, not a great look.
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EPCOT-O.G. said:
Keep in mind that they boasted to investors previously the four month sellout. Since that has clearly changed, they have an obligation to address it. Of course, like everything else they’ll hand waive and say “Oh Omicron” or something.
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Oh please…they won’t say a word about it other than “we have this exciting, absolutely guaranteed cash cow opening”

earnings calls are all smoke and mirrors…”how to lie without lying”

revenue up, guest spending up, pay no attention to the stock drop…

…blah, blah, blah
 
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Well, I heard first hand about the shady business going on with the contracts for entertainers. Looks like that news is now out. A friend of mine involved with the project described what's going on at the resort in regards to test cruises, contracts, Disney trying to get one over the union, ect, as a "barnfire." This is almost looking like the Titanic but luckily the cast can see the iceberg and get out while they can...even if they ended up getting the opening cast tattoo.
 
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Morkey Moose

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TDLFan said:
Well, I heard first hand about the shady business going on with the contracts for entertainers. Looks like that news is now out. A friend of mine involved with the project described what's going on at the resort in regards to test cruises, contracts, Disney trying to get one over the union, ect, as a "barnfire." This is almost looking like the Titanic but luckily the cast can see the iceberg and get out while they can...even if they ended up getting the opening cast tattoo.
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I've said if this is going to be a disaster, I want it to be a spectacular one. We seem to be well on our way. Excited to see low-rent Kylo Ren fumble the lines he's only had 3 weeks to practice.
 

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