News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021

Cesar R M

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For video: The box trucks should have video screens simulating the trip from space to Batuu. Or it's just poorly lit with no simulated windows, that's probably ok too, but not fitting with the Halcyon or star wars in general where most ships have actual windows which can explode and suck princesses out into space where they can sort-of die but still use the force and pull themselves back near a door without an airlock and somehow people on the other side can get them through without sucking the rest of the air and people in the ship outside. Yes that was a run-on sentence but I felt it was necessary to explain windows on space ships. Heaven forbid you make capital ships with the bridge in the exact middle and use a ring doorbell and a video display to see what's in front of the ship. They do have those in Moff Gideon's ship, but they're apparently only black and white tv models on 8" display panels and the bridge still has giant windows directly facing outside for visibility.

For sounds: "Bang, klank" plays through cabin as the shuttle is starting or stopping. Docking sounds in space go back to the first scenes in A New Hope when Leia's blockade runner is caught by Vader's Star Destroyer. They could actually just sample those sounds from a VHS tape. Imagineers can borrow one of my 3 different box sets. It's not actual rocket science here, these box trucks are probably soundproofed so you don't get any road or outside noises, so they'd need some sounds to play or it would be really freaking lame.

For motion: Assuming the landing platform isn't the exact same height on both ends to within an inch, they may need the air shocks anyway (especially if they're allowing strollers, wheelchairs or scooters). I wasn't implying to make the shuttle/box truck into star tours here, just a nudge on them would give a better moving /stopping sensation and might be needed regardless for leveling. Like when an elevator starts or stops on a floor it's not always perfectly smooth?

In Star Wars they generally have small shuttles landing where you want to go. Only when we see Anakin and Padme load up to go to Naboo or Mando going to Tatooine do we see airport-like structures with lots of people loading, everything else is a single landing platform or hangar bay. If we actually had VTOL aircraft we wouldn't need airports, we'd land near to city centers.
It would be REALLY WEIRD if I had no windows and the transport was "dark". I mean, it is supposed to be a "space cruise".
Not a ragtag transport moving illegal cargo to the millenium falcon.
 

celluloid

Well-Known Member
but the robes and wands there don’t come off as a silly upsell. They are of course…it just is way more fan intriguing.

Something to think about is the properties handle the clothing concepts differently as well. With the stories of Harry Potter, you have your cosplayer fandom, but even the not as avid have the emotional draw of knowing that getting school and house robes are a crucial part of the storytelling. There is always the back to school shopping aspect and sense of belonging with the back to Hogwarts concept in Harry Potter.

Star Wars is more militant and fairy tale. If you are a rebel you are often not wearing the same thing as others unless you are in flight suit type situations. Everyone else is either a specific character with unique qualities or militant.

Just something to ponder on why it may feel that way as well.
 

Cesar R M

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This image will become a meme of the starcruiser.

"What do you think of the cruise experience so far?"

"Did you have any money left after buying all the extras on the cruise?"


"Did the simulations work? Or they failed AGAIN?"
"Say Mr. D'Amaro, are people lining up to enjoy the cruise?"


"What are the financial predictions now that the cruise is about to launch? Do they look good?"
"After paying 6000 bucks, did Rise crash or you were able to ride with no issue?"
 

Cesar R M

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Well, yes. I guess "show vehicle" is overstating it.

But it will surely have the ability to put on a "show" inside. Rumbling bass, lighting effects, HD screenz, audio soundtrack, an active suspension for the passenger compartment, etc.

I know the standards have crashed to a new low all over the company. The examples of that are glaring and increasingly common. But I simply can't believe that there won't be a C Ticket sense of showmanship inside the truck's passenger cabin.
Imagine if during bad weather, the driver can "tune up" how "bad" the shaking of the ride will be to simulate additional scenarios.

So when rude and unruly guests board.. the CM can set to "jedi cataclysm". Making them tumble like clothes in a dryer.
 

Cesar R M

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You can decorate a warehouse all you want, Walt, and it's just a giant industrial warehouse. No way, Walt, will your guests get a sense they're in an intimate gothic mansion or in an open graveyard. It's just a box, Walt!! It will always feel like some giant, lifeless, commercial warehouse!!!! If you want a haunted mansion, you have to actually build a mansion and not just have some loops of chain drag some sort of seats through flimsy partitions. Guests will know they're just being dragged along through fake hallways!!!! And it has to go outside through an actual fully built graveyard. No one will believe a graveyard scene in some sort of... box!!!! You're just some sort of money-pinching cheapskate who doesn't care about theming by putting so many rides in a box!!!!!!1!1

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Driver

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And? I’m very pro-cm…ask around…

but you would know you aren’t given much corporate level “secrets”

I’ll wait to observe what they can pull off…as it’s fair.

the advertising and pr lead has been downright awful. Hard to indicate otherwise.

and the Bobs have consistently underdelivered and Overcharged…even with their new parks bagman
I respect your opinion, but at the same time you don’t know what level I’m operating at.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I respect your opinion, but at the same time you don’t know what level I’m operating at.
I do not.

but I’ve heard this kinda thing before…and I spent some time at the sundial building…

but none of that matters…let’s see the product, not the platitudes?
 
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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Everything that holds a cargo of humans, animals, or goods is a box of some sort.
A car, a spaceship, a storage container, a ride simulator, a house etc...
That's not the argument.
it's what is done with that vessel - that starting point - that matters.
You can't equate the ride system of Smugglers Run, with the transport of a box truck just because they are both boxes of a sort.
You can't equate the ride system of the Batuu transport, with being thrown into the back of a truck.

It works both ways.
 

Hawg G

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Installing an elaborate rail system for a hotel which nobody knows will succeed is a ridiculous gamble of money. Make trucks now which can be repurposed later if needed, and if in two years people still give a hoot then circle back to the idea of an upgrade with a themed rail ride to and from Batuu. You know disney would then hype that up as Starcruiser 2.0, now with enhanced excursions to Batuu!

If you want immersion and insist on going to Batuu, then how about this: Go for 2 hours after the park closes or close SWGE slightly earlier on those days. Bring in a couple of the park SW actors, let the rich folks make their lightsabers or droids, have the run of Ooga's cantina and ride Rise 10 times if they choose. Give cruisers some truly exclusive content and keep it in-universe. Minimal staff but a personalized experience. You don't need that many people to run a few shops for two extra hours.

That's what I would want to pay for on this type of experience, not to spend 8 of my 48 hours (actually 8 of about 32 waking hours at best) with sweaty tourists in an area I am seeing anyway on the rest of my Disney vacation.
Cruise ships are FULL of special experiences. Waterslides heck powered roller coasters now. A bare bones rail system with simple pods would cost very little and be a MUCH better experience for the folks staying at the “luxury” resort.

Is he seems to have followed your logic of not spending too much on special stuff, in case it doesn’t go over well, yet they are still charging like the special stuff is there.

Don’t even get me started on the lightsaber training. That looks like something sold At IAAPA that ends up at all the Great Wolf Lodges next year for an $8 upcharge.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Cruise ships are FULL of special experiences. Waterslides heck powered roller coasters now. A bare bones rail system with simple pods would cost very little and be a MUCH better experience for the folks staying at the “luxury” resort.

Is he seems to have followed your logic of not spending too much on special stuff, in case it doesn’t go over well, yet they are still charging like the special stuff is there.

Don’t even get me started on the lightsaber training. That looks like something sold At IAAPA that ends up at all the Great Wolf Lodges next year for an $8 upcharge.
I Think it’s a bit much to ask for an expensive limited use transport system here…

…however that would be a Disney kinda thing

hell…George or James Cameron would do it
 

MrPromey

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I Think it’s a bit much to ask for an expensive limited use transport system here…

…however that would be a Disney kinda thing

hell…George or James Cameron would do it
This is nothing you don't know but I find it interesting.

It's part of the weird conundrum of building something like this.

Disney makes it small and limits capacity and thus sells it at an extreme premium.

Because of the pricing, people's expectations go through the roof as well they should. Someone says "For $5k plus I expect..."

The problem is, all the good stuff Disney makes as it pertains to attractions is paid for by the financial support of the millions of people who visit.

Due to the limited number of people who can experience this (by design) it limits the potential for the money Disney can make even with ultra high pricing and thus limits the amount they're likely to spend which at the end of the day, isn't the problem of the guest spending $5k plus for less than two complete days but directly impacts their experience.

So you have people saying an on-rails pod should be provided and comparisons are made to the Potter "train" down the road which, as guests, is fair since people pay less than $200 and get that experience but for reasons that are entirely of Disney's own creation, it's not realistic from a business perspective because of how they've set out to do all of this... which again, shouldn't matter to the $5k plus guests who are still paying through the nose but who will (likely) get a lesser experience because of it.

For this to succeed, they can't skim money like it's a cupcake party which is what modern Disney's used to when it comes to their version of "premium".
 
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