News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021

[pdude81]

There was this youtube video that is specifically tailored for tall adults. He said he could barely fit in the bunks, (he is 6'3 I think )


Anything larger, you can't fit.

6'3" is at the 95th percentile of height for adult men, so this is likely adequate. And he is wearing shoes. I didn't watch the video, but if you're bigger than that you didn't really fit in the college dorm either.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Seems I need help absorbing my media. As I'm coming to understand it, I should be heavily downgrading any comped review while taking any self-paid review at face value.
But...
What if the self-paid reviewer is an influencer upset they were not one of the "Chosen Few," and now has a petty axe to grind?
What if some influencers technically pay for the trip, but the funds actually come so from money raised by Patreon, GoFundME, etc for that exact purpose and not an actual "out of pocket" expense.
Speaking of which, aren't some able to write off some of this as a business expense? Highly suspect.
And what about a review from one of the many self-appointed "good customers" that have been vocal about not also being one of the "Chosen Few" and are upset that "stupid influencers" are more valued by the company they've already given so much hard earned cash to.
What if the trip was given as a gift, not from Disney, but from literally anyone else? I would hope their review would mention that deep-pocket-grandma forked over the cash.

So is there a formula out there for finding the honest and true? Or do we... gasp- just go with our gut as everyone has since the creation of advertisements, reviews, and general word of mouth.

I mean, you can "what if" forever. Seems like you have a bigger axe to grind than any of the hypothetical people you're conjuring.

There's no formula and no one's saying there is. How is "Maybe take the media reviews with a grain of salt" so difficult to comprehend? Use your good judgement.

People have come forth (albeit anonymously) and said "I was comped by Disney and expected to deliver praise, and because of that I don't feel like I can speak freely about my experience". When's the last time that happened? Just keep it in mind, digest what you like, and form your own opinion.

The only reason people are beating that drum so loudly is because this experience is the most expensive proposition on property, and there's concern that overly-effusive reviews may convince some people to spend an ungodly amount of cash on a trip that may not actually suit them. Long as you don't run afoul of that in your own heart, have fun.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That date is now full. In just the past few hours, the open cruises for March - June went from 11 to 8.

So still more availability than DVC rooms that Disney is actively crapping on at this point?

 

[pdude81]

I’ve been to Disney events with full open bar. New Year’s Eve at California Grill for example.

Ok, fair. I appreciate the correction. I'll add that it costs more per hour than SWGS does, but didn't know they did open bar even for that.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Correct me if I'm wrong. but Didn't he met chewie right in the battle on Chewie's planet and sensed Palpatine's order 66?

* edit * nevermind.. someone had posted the screenshot of this scene.

Yup. My mind had wiped away memories of the prequels (I think it was trying to protect me). I was wrong. And if the plot explains Yoda’s presence - eh, it’s thin and has no emotional resonance for Rey and the only reason he’s there is because it’s cheaper then having to hire a recognizable actor like Hamill, but it’s not awful.

As a side note, I always hated what the prequels did to Yoda, making him a stern, humorless bureaucrat and one of the idiots whose blunders destroy the Republic. He should have been the silly old librarian even the other Jedis underestimate, whose goofiness hides extraordinary knowledge and skill. He’s wise enough to stay off the council and his relatively lowly status is why he’s able to survive.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Catastrophe Canyon? Muppets? Indiana Jones? Star Tours? Various other backstage structures of unknown purpose. All visible from the arrival and parking lot.

Are you not familiar with the fact that Disney's MGM Studios was designed to be - wait for it - a Studio? And that seeing Studio buildings and the behind-the-scenes of how such things were made were part of the concept?

That's not true of Galaxy's Edge or the Starcruiser, which are shouting to the stars how they let you step directly into the world of the film like no other. You're not meant to see the seams. And you're paying through both nostrils for an experience that Disney proudly calls the most immersive thing they've ever done. This stuff should be better disguised than the Muppets building, not worse.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Seems I need help absorbing my media. As I'm coming to understand it, I should be heavily downgrading any comped review while taking any self-paid review at face value.
But...
What if the self-paid reviewer is an influencer upset they were not one of the "Chosen Few," and now has a petty axe to grind?
What if some influencers technically pay for the trip, but the funds actually come so from money raised by Patreon, GoFundME, etc for that exact purpose and not an actual "out of pocket" expense.
Speaking of which, aren't some able to write off some of this as a business expense? Highly suspect.
And what about a review from one of the many self-appointed "good customers" that have been vocal about not also being one of the "Chosen Few" and are upset that "stupid influencers" are more valued by the company they've already given so much hard earned cash to.
What if the trip was given as a gift, not from Disney, but from literally anyone else? I would hope their review would mention that deep-pocket-grandma forked over the cash.

So is there a formula out there for finding the honest and true? Or do we... gasp- just go with our gut as everyone has since the creation of advertisements, reviews, and general word of mouth.

There a balance…obviously…this didn’t like Columbus sailing away from the coast to the west. We know how to handle this…

Look at the press/comp/in the bag leech vlogger reviews…wait…look at customer reviews…look for consistency between the groups and then extrapolate where the truth lies?

Like public bids…always toss the “highs” and the “lows”

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

You forgot “immersivosity”

That's me byword!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yup. My mind had wiped away memories of the prequels (I think it was trying to protect me). I was wrong. And if the plot explains Yoda’s presence - eh, it’s thin and has no emotional resonance for Rey and the only reason he’s there is because it’s cheaper then having to hire a recognizable actor like Hamill, but it’s not awful.

As a side note, I always hated what the prequels did to Yoda, making him a stern, humorless bureaucrat and one of the idiots whose blunders destroy the Republic. He should have been the silly old librarian even the other Jedis underestimate, whose goofiness hides extraordinary knowledge and skill.

Dude…don’t Scoff the prequels too hard and start talking “Rey”…you’re on record.

At a minimum…it’s judging miss coal mine vs miss steel mill.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That's me byword!

I think that’s a movie starring Michael Keaton?

 

[pdude81]

Disneyland also put in a little extra effort to help make the backside of the buildings a little more palatable. There are colored metal panels to break up the large expanses of building wall, and all the rock work extends to the building to help preserve the illusion somewhat. The addition rockwork is not nearly as detailed as the park-facing stuff, but it does a reasonably good job at concealing a backstage view. It’s not perfect by any means, but given how they had to squeeze the land into the park (which, this is one of the many arguments that it’s a poor fit for its location), it seems like a reasonable compromise. Here’s a look at it from during construction, before all the additional rockwork was completed, but the spires on the left show what’s possible with minimal effort:

Now compare that to the blank expanses of warehouses and floating rocks-on-sticks that greet guests on their way to the Starcruiser. Disneyland usually gets a little more leeway for these sorts of things, due to the limited physical space of the resort and the age of the existing infrastructure. WDW, on the other hand, has “the blessing of size,” and this is a new build for a premium experience, yet it still fares worse than the experience for the masses on the other coast.

The outfits are definitely interesting to me, especially considering that the costumes for the Galaxy’s Edge cast members have far more style, texture, and options than anything else they’ve created in decades. Similar to the DL backside views, if the experience for average park-goers sets one standard, why doesn’t this premium experience at least meet that same standard, let alone raise the bar?

Whoever was in charge of DL at the time at least spent the extra fourteen dollars to keep those from looking like stone popsicles. The backstage rockwork in WDW is a travesty.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

6'3" is at the 95th percentile of height for adult men, so this is likely adequate. And he is wearing shoes. I didn't watch the video, but if you're bigger than that you didn't really fit in the college dorm either.

I. N. A. D. E. Q. U. A. T. E.

…I won’t come after your lucky charms

 

[sedati]

I mean, you can "what if" forever. Seems like you have a bigger axe to grind than any of the hypothetical people you're conjuring.

There's no formula and no one's saying there is. How is "Maybe take the media reviews with a grain of salt" so difficult to comprehend? Use your good judgement.

People have come forth (albeit anonymously) and said "I was comped by Disney and expected to deliver praise, and because of that I don't feel like I can speak freely about my experience". When's the last time that happened? Just keep it in mind, digest what you like, and form your own opinion.

The only reason people are beating that drum so loudly is because this experience is the most expensive proposition on property, and there's concern that overly-effusive reviews may convince some people to spend an ungodly amount of cash on a trip that may not actually suit them. Long as you don't run afoul of that in your own heart, have fun.

sorry, I guess I wasn’t conveying myself sarcastically enough. We are of the same mind about this.

 

[M:SpilotISTC12]

Yes most of these things were originally planned and even talked about publicly for Galaxy's Edge. The roving droids, the performers on the overhead gantry's, the table service restaurant with dinner show, the data pad and story following you through the land - it was all shifted to the Starcruiser.

And I think that's the most frustrating part about the whole disney star wars experience. This stuff shouldn't have been behind a $6k pay wall. You can tell in GE that it was built for the same experience and disney was like "nah. Make em pay". And I get it they're a business...but still. The potential of GE is at it ultimate at this moment.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I’ve been to Disney events with full open bar. New Year’s Eve at California Grill for example.

Same.

Been to a wedding or two that involved park goers walking by and a very free flowing bar too…

 

[pdude81]

I. N. A. D. E. Q. U. A. T. E.

…I won’t come after your lucky charms

If you're not in the top 3 ranking members of your party, then you're out of luck pal!

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

sorry, I guess I wasn’t conveying myself sarcastically enough. We are of the same mind about this.

Goodness. Did not catch that one bit. Lots of people here seem really up their own you-know-what about the disclaimers being posted around the media preview buzz.

Apologies.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Whoever was in charge of DL at the time at least spent the extra fourteen dollars to keep those from looking like stone popsicles. The backstage rockwork in WDW is a travesty.

This is one thing that drives me crazy with Disney, they spend a fortune building things and then cheap out on finishing details, if you’re already spending hundreds of millions why not spend the extra 2% on finishing to make it look amazing?

It’s like spending hundreds of thousand of dollars to build a brand new house and then simply painting the plywood to save a few thousand dollars on stucco. It makes no sense.

 

[correcaminos]

That's one of the reasons that I'm surprised this wasn't broken up into its original components--if your teen thinks he's too cool for the stage show, you can still take the little ones and let him ride Smuggler's Run again or go to the shops. You're not going to have to take him there and have him sulking the whole time. Couples can go to the restaurant, people with little kids can take them to the lightsaber game. This forces everyone into everything because otherwise you're "wasting money."


Please, if anyone knows anyone under 45 who can afford this place, tell me where they live so I can find this paradise...

I just turned 45 this month. My spouse is under 45. Our friend we took last year to WDW specifically for Galaxy edge is under 40. We all could afford this. I had misgivings and recently put an offer on a DVC add on that I'll pay in cash. Not wealthy but after little done in 2020 and regular savings this wouldn't have been an issue. We just are good at saving as is our friend, though he's just single. We're probably a prime age they want, though my 14 yo is too tall for those bunks and a bit beyond space invaders.

Really not sure teens will want this. For same spent my kid would rather other experiences. These experiences feel a bit juvenile for him - me as well tbh.

So still more availability than DVC rooms that Disney is actively crapping on at this point?

Nice! Got a reservation for MM and deciding if I should scrap it or pay OOP for a room. Only Swalphin shows availability. March has been booked solid for months.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

This is one thing that drives me crazy with Disney, they spend a fortune building things and then cheap out on finishing details, if you’re already spending hundreds of millions why not spend the extra 2% on finishing to make it look amazing?

It’s like spending hundreds of thousand of dollars to build a brand new house and then simply painting the plywood to save a few thousand dollars on stucco. It makes no sense.

It is, as I'm sure you know, as simple as thinking people will come and pay anyway.

Which is all the more reason to speak up about it with regards to the Starcruiser. You're paying top-rack prices for a supposed high-level themed environment, but to get there you have to pull through a channel that looks more than anything like the active construction site where they're building this alleged game-changing immersive experience? When all it would take to solve that problem are some well placed hedges?? Absolutely not acceptable.