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[ImperfectPixie]

I'm happy that, of late, Kennedy has taken a low profile and has the courage -- yes, courage -- to allow Favreau and Filoni the creative freedom to create good work in SW. And, I'm glad it's on D+ rather than the big screen where budgets are more tightly followed. Seems the problems follow the money.

The problems follow the money because that's when the non-creatives start thinking they need to exert control.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I'm happy that, of late, Kennedy has taken a low profile and has the courage -- yes, courage -- to allow Favreau and Filoni the creative freedom to create good work in SW. And, I'm glad it's on D+ rather than the big screen where budgets are more tightly followed. Seems the problems follow the money.

Her experience is in admin…not story…
…so actually letting people use their experience/strength instead of forcing them into spots they don’t fit would be very refreshing for Disney.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The problems follow the money because that's when the non-creatives start thinking they need to exert control.

…and when you suggest that something 40
Years old that generated an estimated $100,000,000,000 of licensed product was “wrong to begin with”…

important landmine not to play with.

 

[kingdead]

Feige is one of the five greatest producers in Hollywood history. In many ways - and particularly for an IP in Marvels position - that’s more valuable then a genius pure creative.

And you guys all realize Filoni and Favreau work under Kennedy, right? It’s hysterical how she disappears as soon as a piece of Star Wars content fans like is discussed.

As a producer, Kennedy has an amazing record--if you grew up during the 80s, she was behind a lot of the films you loved. She also has been behind a lot of Spielberg's Oscar winners. The reason we know about her as the lady who ruined Star Wars is because YouTube video essays became a thing right around when the sequels came out. Otherwise, nobody would know who she is.

I'll be contrarian and say that her legacy--in terms of people watching her films--will probably last longer than Feige's. That and Disney's insistence on putting out films so quickly after buying the IP is as much to blame as Kennedy for the er, uneven, record of the Disney-era movies.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

As a producer, Kennedy has an amazing record--if you grew up during the 80s, she was behind a lot of the films you loved. She also has been behind a lot of Spielberg's Oscar winners. The reason we know about her as the lady who ruined Star Wars is because YouTube video essays became a thing right around when the sequels came out. Otherwise, nobody would know who she is.

I'll be contrarian and say that her legacy--in terms of people watching her films--will probably last longer than Feige's. That and Disney's insistence on putting out films so quickly after buying the IP is as much to blame as Kennedy for the er, uneven, record of the Disney-era movies.

She was Lucas' secretary. Literally. Her role in being a producer on ET? She picked the color of his eyes.

Don't be tricked into thinking she's some creative genius...she isn't. And none of the films she's worked on were "her films".

 

[Andrew C]

As a producer, Kennedy has an amazing record--if you grew up during the 80s, she was behind a lot of the films you loved. She also has been behind a lot of Spielberg's Oscar winners

Yep, she was legit back in the day. haha I think many don't understand some of the important roles she played..

 

[pdude81]

Also never forget that Lucas wrote the story and produced those two Ewok movies.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

As a producer, Kennedy has an amazing record--if you grew up during the 80s, she was behind a lot of the films you loved. She also has been behind a lot of Spielberg's Oscar winners. The reason we know about her as the lady who ruined Star Wars is because YouTube video essays became a thing right around when the sequels came out. Otherwise, nobody would know who she is.

I'll be contrarian and say that her legacy--in terms of people watching her films--will probably last longer than Feige's. That and Disney's insistence on putting out films so quickly after buying the IP is as much to blame as Kennedy for the er, uneven, record of the Disney-era movies.

I just think she’s miscast to be a studio head with creative control. She is more of an admin.

people tend to forget how she got that job…she was in the middle of a cat and mouse game
Between Lucas and Iger.

it’s in iger’s book and said in interviews by the Disney attorney. The one useful thing in that book.

so I don’t blame her. But you can’t double down over and over again on a piece that doesn’t fit. That’s something Disney is notoriously stubborn about.

change it up and let her do what she does best. And make Star Wars for Star Wars fans…for gods sakes…we’ve been tiptoeing with “expanding the Base” for 25 years…

just make what’s good and triggers the heartstrings of the old and I PROMISE the base will expand and you’ll sell …

guaranteed

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

She was Lucas' secretary. Literally. Her role in being a producer on ET? She picked the color of his eyes.

Don't be tricked into thinking she's some creative genius...she isn't. And none of the films she's worked on were "her films".

She started as Spielberg’s secretary. Steve and George are best friends for 50 years.

I feel like that should be obvious but a lot of Disney fans have no clue.

but she advanced much more than that…one of the biggest producers ever. She isn’t an idiot…but she was handed - FRANKLY - an agenda to follow from the dwarf house based on numbers and Bob Iger isn’t a creative.

pure hubris…they messed with a power “they don’t understand and could never have”

…to quote Princess Leia

 

[Hawg G]

Feige has done very well, but imo he isn't on the level of someone like Henson or Lucas--he's a great manager but he didn't come up with those characters. (Also the death of Chadwick Boseman is going to have a bigger effect on Marvel than the death of Carrie Fisher did on Star Wars.)

The Black Panther is not a consistent character. His death will have pretty much zero impact. BP2 will not make as much money, but that is because BP rode a huge wave of race centered popularity (that ignored Blade) that was a one time thing.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

She started as Spielberg’s secretary. Steve and George are best friends for 50 years.

I feel like that should be obvious but a lot of Disney fans have no clue.

but she advanced much more than that…one of the biggest producers ever. She isn’t an idiot…but she was handed - FRANKLY - an agenda to follow from the dwarf house based on numbers and Bob Iger isn’t a creative.

pure hubris…they messed with a power “they don’t understand and could never have”

…to quote Princess Leia

At the time of the buyout, Lucas couldn't think of anyone to put in charge...and picked her at the last minute. If she was some fantastic producer, I think it very likely that she would have been more towards the front of his mind, rather than a last second pick because there was no one else.

 

[Andrew C]

At the time of the buyout, Lucas couldn't think of anyone to put in charge...and picked her at the last minute. If she was some fantastic producer, I think it very likely that she would have been more towards the front of his mind, rather than a last second pick because there was no one else.

Besides ET, she has been a producer on movies like The Color Purple, Jurassic Park, Hook, The Money Pit, Twister, The Sixth Sense, Bridges of Madison County, Arachnophobia, the Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Lincoln....and a ton more. Been an executive producer on a bunch of others, including big hits....

You may not like what she has done with Star Wars, but to label her as just someone's secretary is really harsh...and ignores the totality of her career.

 

[kingdead]

We really need one of those Vanity Fair deep dives about the making of these movies so we can finally get all the gossip and the info about who did what out in the open, but the power of Bob Iger is so strong that it's never going to happen... I hate this evil world...

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

At the time of the buyout, Lucas couldn't think of anyone to put in charge...and picked her at the last minute. If she was some fantastic producer, I think it very likely that she would have been more towards the front of his mind, rather than a last second pick because there was no one else.

The story…as it goes…was she was put in charge of LFL on Steve’s recommendation a year before Disney came looking for buy.

But the timeline doesn’t match up. To believe that…you’d have to believe the deal was negotiated and sealed in about a week flat. Which doesn’t match with lucas’s quirks at all.

The “theory” is that Lucas wanted someone he could leverage to remain in creative Control with Disney’s checkbook. Alan Braverman all but said it. And Iger (his words) probably “didn’t Handle it the best”.

and then George called him a white slaver.

kennedy and her husband hand a pretty bigtime production company before that…after being a senior at amblin for 20+ years prior.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

We really need one of those Vanity Fair deep dives about the making of these movies so we can finally get all the gossip and the info about who did what out in the open, but the power of Bob Iger is so strong that it's never going to happen... I hate this evil world...

Iger controls the Hollywood reporter…as his influence wanes…places like VF Will get more info.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

The story…as it goes…was she was put in charge of LFL on Steve’s recommendation a year before Disney came looking for buy.

But the timeline doesn’t match up. To believe that…you’d have to believe the deal was negotiated and sealed in about a week flat. Which doesn’t match with lucas’s quirks at all.

The “theory” is that Lucas wanted someone he could leverage to remain in creative Control with Disney’s checkbook. Alan Braverman all but said it. And Iger (his words) probably “didn’t Handle it the best”.

and then George called him a white slaver.

kennedy and her husband hand a pretty bigtime production company before that…after being a senior at amblin for 20+ years prior.

I just can't get over people thinking she's some creative force to be reckoned with. A producer's job is much more administrative, oversight, and finance than creative.

I've also seen far too many hacks be given credit for work they had zero hand in just because they were close to the people in charge of a creative business to think that it doesn't happen in Hollywood.

 

[Andrew C]

A producer's job is much more administrative, oversight, and finance than creative.

This is an inaccurate description. Producers are definitely involved in the creative aspect of film making. An essential cog actually.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I just can't get over people thinking she's some creative force to be reckoned with. A producer's job is much more administrative, oversight, and finance than creative.

I've also seen far too many hacks be given credit for work they had zero hand in just because they were close to the people in charge of a creative business to think that it doesn't happen in Hollywood.

She’s not a creative AT ALL. They might as well call her “Bob”

and the installed heads of the story group were fired…period…for 8, Solo and 9…

Disney just didn’t do it during a press conference in front of small world so people do not believe it/won’t research it.
And here we go again

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This is an inaccurate description. Producers are definitely involved in the creative aspect of film making. An essential cog actually.

That’s an executive producer…

but some bigger producers are more hands on/dabble on the creative side. Usually the ex director/actor types

 

[kingdead]

She’s not a creative AT ALL. They might as well call her “Bob”

and the installed heads of the story group were fired…period…for 8, Solo and 9…

Disney just didn’t do it during a press conference in front of small world so people do not believe it/won’t research it.
And here we go again

Does the story group actually work on the movies that much? I thought they were mainly there to expand on the old stuff, like making sure that Chewbacca had the same number of kids in the comics as in the books or whatever. I didn't think they actually did script development.