News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021

[CraftyFox]

The current facade design is honestly really disappointing me. Like yeah, the structure that houses the rooms will be covered in some way as it is more of a show building than anything, but the front exterior with the porte-cochère is just so militaristic. The vaguely Brutalist aesthetic with the heavy concrete makes it seem like the entrance to a nuclear power plant that closed after the Cold War.

 

[larryz]

A lot more than you'd think.

Well, I'd think about 50. How many more than that?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Well, I'd think about 50. How many more than that?

I just checked the ops budget and that’s 49.5 more than is allocated...bummer

 

[danlb_2000]

The amount of back and forth on this would indicate this entire idea is rife with logistical issues.

If it’s just like a hotel with a separate entrance...explain why it would be like $1000 a person a night?

Very confused....more to follow

Because it's not just a hotel with a separate entrance.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Because it's not just a hotel with a separate entrance.

And yet...that end of the spectrum has been thrown out and supported...as has full on Hard-O

What do you believe from vague announcements with platitudes and concept art?

My suspicious is nobody actually knows how to do it yet. We shall see.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Well, I'd think about 50. How many more than that?

There's almost that many alone in First Order gear standing at attention in RotR's hangar bay!

 

[danlb_2000]

And yet...that end of the spectrum has been thrown out and supported...as has full on Hard-O

What do you believe from vague announcements with platitudes and concept art?

My suspicious is nobody actually knows how to do it yet. We shall see.

This is a pretty new concept, I can't think of anything that really comes close to this. I really think this is going to be a concept that evolves over time once Disney sees how it is received by guests.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This is a pretty new concept, I can't think of anything that really comes close to this. I really think this is going to be a concept that evolves over time once Disney sees how it is received by guests.

I always think of things from the design/ops perspective...

And in this case the need for “flexibility” is a big burden...

They would have to build spaces that would be able to expand or contract...streamline and/or repurpose in the original design without major construction. The worst case scenarios are either a. Demand is high and what they build is inadequate
B. Demand is low and they have to mothball parts of it.


What would really help this is if every business analyst on earth wasn’t going to spend the next couple of years picking through the financial unknowns of Disney + contrasted to the indisputable cheap drop in demand for the film products.

When Disney greenlit this...I’ll go out on a limb and say they expected growing demand at the BO and gate increases driven by the land.

Haven’t gotten that exactly, have they?

 

[nickys]

This is a pretty new concept, I can't think of anything that really comes close to this. I really think this is going to be a concept that evolves over time once Disney sees how it is received by guests.

One concept that people likened it to is a Murder Mystery weekend. I don’t know if they are even a “thing” in the US though.

But I too think it will evolve based on several factors, including what kind of guests end up booking, cost, repeatability etc.

 

[nickys]

I always think of things from the design/ops perspective...

And in this case the need for “flexibility” is a big burden...

They would have to build spaces that would be able to expand or contract...streamline and/or repurpose in the original design without major construction. The worst case scenarios are either a. Demand is high and what they build is inadequate
B. Demand is low and they have to mothball parts of it.


What would really help this is if every business analyst on earth wasn’t going to spend the next couple of years picking through the financial unknowns of Disney + contrasted to the indisputable cheap drop in demand for the film products.

When Disney greenlit this...I’ll go out on a limb and say they expected growing demand at the BO and gate increases driven by the land.

Haven’t gotten that exactly, have they?

It’s a pretty small “cruise ship”, so demand doesn’t really affect the experience too much. If there’s high demand, it’ll be difficult to book and bookings will run months ahead. And if demand is too low, they can run it less often.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

One concept that people likened it to is a Murder Mystery weekend. I don’t know if they are even a “thing” in the US though.

But I too think it will evolve based on several factors, including what kind of guests end up booking, cost, repeatability etc.

They are, and are great fun from my understanding.

 

[danlb_2000]

I always think of things from the design/ops perspective...

And in this case the need for “flexibility” is a big burden...

They would have to build spaces that would be able to expand or contract...streamline and/or repurpose in the original design without major construction. The worst case scenarios are either a. Demand is high and what they build is inadequate
B. Demand is low and they have to mothball parts of it.


What would really help this is if every business analyst on earth wasn’t going to spend the next couple of years picking through the financial unknowns of Disney + contrasted to the indisputable cheap drop in demand for the film products.

When Disney greenlit this...I’ll go out on a limb and say they expected growing demand at the BO and gate increases driven by the land.

Haven’t gotten that exactly, have they?

I think they have sized it right. We believe it will be around a 100 rooms and if we assume an average of 3 people per room for 2 days, that's a capacity 54,750 people per year. That's a good fraction of the 52 million that visit WDW yearly.

 

[danlb_2000]

I am wondering if everyone will "board" on the same day, or if stays will overlap. If everyone boards at the same time then there will be one extra day on non-leap years.

 

[nickys]

I am wondering if everyone will "board" on the same day, or if stays will overlap. If everyone boards at the same time then there will be one extra day on non-leap years.

If the storyline is to make sense everyone will have to board at the same time.After all, cruise ships don’t have people boarding mid-trip.

My guess it will be two cruises each week. Especially since, as someone already pointed out, they can hardly swap key “crew” part way through. That way the CMs get a 3 days on, 1 day off rotation.

 

[danlb_2000]

If the storyline is to make sense everyone will have to board at the same time.After all, cruise ships don’t have people boarding mid-trip.

My guess it will be two cruises each week. Especially since, as someone already pointed out, they can hardly swap key “crew” part way through. That way the CMs get a 3 days on, 1 day off rotation.

This assumes it will have a story line. People don't board mid-trip on a cruise because they physically can't.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

So here is a link to the DCL cruise points chart for DVC members for a cruise to the Bahamas. The points cost quoted in the chart is actually per person, not per room.

https://cdn4.parksmedia.wdprapps.disney.com/media/dvc/languagespecific/eng/member/vacationplanning/pointscharts/2021/2021_DVC_DCL_Phase_1_3N_Bahamas_Pt_Chts_092619.pdf

And here is the line in the small print that says so.

“Points are per person, based on double occupancy and apply to 1st and 2nd passenger“.

It's only per person if you book for two. The cost per person is higher if you book single occupancy.

The cost when I went on a cruise was advertised per person, but you had to multiply by two because even if you went solo you had to pay for two. You've both said this, you're both correct.

That is not correct. The cost for an individual is higher than the cost-per-person based on double occupancy, but it's not fully twice the cost.

For example, double occupancy might be $2,000 ($1,000 per person). The cost for a single might be $1,700. It's more expensive than the price-per-person in a couple, but it's not fully the cost of a couple.

 

[nickys]

This assumes it will have a story line. People don't board mid-trip on a cruise because they physically can't.

But that is how Disney have been referring to it. The Galactic Starcruiser.

This is the quote in the latest news feature about it, as posted by Steve:

“You’re going to live onboard a star cruiser…and you can get wrapped up in the larger Star Wars story.”

Disney to open reservations for Star Wars: Galactic Starcruiser later this year

The multi-day Star Wars vacation experience coming to Walt Disney World will open in 2021.

www.wdwmagic.com

 

[DryerLintFan]

It's only per person if you book for two. The cost per person is higher if you book single occupancy.


That is not correct. The cost for an individual is higher than the cost-per-person based on double occupancy, but it's not fully twice the cost.

For example, double occupancy might be $2,000 ($1,000 per person). The cost for a single might be $1,700. It's more expensive than the price-per-person in a couple, but it's not fully the cost of a couple.

IDC if that is correct or not for current industry standard, but it was correct for my experience when I went on a cruise. I shared a personal experience where you were not, in fact, there.

I paid for two people in my cabin, although I was the only one in it. It was a last minute trip or I would have found someone else to come since I had to pay for it anyway. Just wanted to be surrounded by ocean after 15 months in the sandbox. I absolutely did not get to pay a slightly higher per person single occupancy rate.

 

[DryerLintFan]

But that is how Disney have been referring to it. The Galactic Starcruiser.

This is the quote in the latest news feature about it, as posted by Steve:

“You’re going to live onboard a star cruiser…and you can get wrapped up in the larger Star Wars story.”

Disney to open reservations for Star Wars: Galactic Starcruiser later this year

The multi-day Star Wars vacation experience coming to Walt Disney World will open in 2021.

www.wdwmagic.com

It could still work with the multiple boarding times/shuttles, but the point about the staffing is a really great one. Your cruise captain wouldn't just change halfway through your cruise. So the same CMs would need to be on the "ship" for the entire cruise.

I agree with you about the story. I think there are a lot of logistics they'll need to work through to make the story happen though.

 

[danlb_2000]

But that is how Disney have been referring to it. The Galactic Starcruiser.

This is the quote in the latest news feature about it, as posted by Steve:

“You’re going to live onboard a star cruiser…and you can get wrapped up in the larger Star Wars story.”

Disney to open reservations for Star Wars: Galactic Starcruiser later this year

The multi-day Star Wars vacation experience coming to Walt Disney World will open in 2021.

www.wdwmagic.com

You could read that different ways. Being part of the "story" could just mean you are living in the world of Star Wars, it might not mean you are literally participating in a set storyline.