WhatJaneSays
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Regardless of box office ... that's not how theater bookings work. This one will be in theaters a likely minimum of 16 weeks, but more likely 18.
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Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker Reactions: SPOILERS
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Supreme Leader
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What should be studied in film classes are generation spanning film franchise's and the downfall of catering to what fans want or what they think they need in a film. But then again, I hate star wars fans. Worms for brains.
Indy_UK
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I’m sorry but I’m getting fed up with the scrutiny that this film is recieving.
I totally accept this trilogy isn’t perfect and no overall plot was planned out but why can’t people just enjoy them for what they are.
Marvel fans are no where as toxic and if they have a film they dont enjoy, they move on and look forward to the next movie.
why is Star Wars the exception to the rule?
I totally accept this trilogy isn’t perfect and no overall plot was planned out but why can’t people just enjoy them for what they are.
Marvel fans are no where as toxic and if they have a film they dont enjoy, they move on and look forward to the next movie.
why is Star Wars the exception to the rule?
Because this isn't the sequel to Dodgeball. It's Star Wars. And Disney completely failed because they wanted to push an agenda. They deserve this.
It has nothing to do with meeting expectations. That would be hard to do. Even the prequels failed there. It's about staying true to the story. True to the characters. Disney never "got that". So they took the greatest fandom in movie history and allowed Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy to divide it. Personally, if I came out of this trilogy saying "It wasn't as good as the original" but could also say "Luke had his moment, Han had his, Leia had hers - and it added to the story and gave us some new characters in the process" - that is completely acceptable.
JJ for his faults allowed Han to go out the way he should have. Johnson defiled the entire work of George Lucas and what Abrams set up for him. I'm not a JJ fan, but I think even he "got it". Now that it's said and done, I'm looking forward to the Hamill, Ridley, Boyega, Abrams interviews in the months/years to come.
Case in point: From a Star Wars editor - “I just think that when you’re doing a trilogy, you can’t just abandon a story."
Star Wars Editor: The Last Jedi Presented “A Lot of Challenges” for The Rise of Skywalker
Star Wars: The Force Awakens and The Rise of Skywalker editor Maryann Brandon admits the Rian Johnson-directed The Last Jedi presented “a lot of challenges in terms of where Episode IX had to go to finish the saga.” Skywalker had to send off Resistance leader Leia without star Carrie Fisher —...
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Mouse Trap
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What? Not a chance it’s out of theaters in a month lol
Sirwalterraleigh
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In THAT story...
Are we saying every acting job is the same? Every movie has the same requirements?
I missed the lightsaber scene in When Harry Met Sally
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
The last Jedi domestic take dropped below $1,000,000 domestic a day on day 25 of release...flatlined
What good is having a movie in a theater If no one is watching it?
LOL!
...get ready for a true “sequel” to that
Tony Perkis
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RandySavage
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MCU has been a great achievement but has had much lower hurdles to clear in order to satisfy fans.
One noticable one is humor. Humor is one of the great assets of MCU in that they've enjoyed a present-day, RDJ snark, this-is-still-fun tone from the beginning to the end. Pulling off humor in a galaxy far, far away has proven much more challenging. I found the attempts in the new trilogy (and prequels) to be mostly excruciating moments that felt like Judd Apatow-Seth Rogan or awkward SNL skit: the "I'm on hold for general hux's office" bit in the TLJ and the "thank goodness you're okay!" stormtrooper bit in TROS come to mind. Many MCU movies earn legitimate laughs. The little puppet droidtechnician creature in this one provided the only chuckle I can recall.
As everyone has said, the biggest asset MCU has over SW is the variation in setting and character (from movies in WWII to space fantasies akin to Star Wars). Whereas the new Star Wars trilogy follows a story too similar to the one we know from the Originals: an evil Empire wields Superweapon(s) against Outnumbered Rebels while Jedi face-off against Sith... again but with some different people.
I feel like the new Trilogy had a weaker over-arching storyline that was better executed (than the Prequels). The Prequels over-arching story (how the Republic Fell and Empire rose) was more original & interesting but dreadfully executed (via script and performances), IMO.
Neither Prequel nor Sequel trilogy lived up to what I had imagined, so my personal, solipsistic Canon simply leaves them out.
One noticable one is humor. Humor is one of the great assets of MCU in that they've enjoyed a present-day, RDJ snark, this-is-still-fun tone from the beginning to the end. Pulling off humor in a galaxy far, far away has proven much more challenging. I found the attempts in the new trilogy (and prequels) to be mostly excruciating moments that felt like Judd Apatow-Seth Rogan or awkward SNL skit: the "I'm on hold for general hux's office" bit in the TLJ and the "thank goodness you're okay!" stormtrooper bit in TROS come to mind. Many MCU movies earn legitimate laughs. The little puppet droidtechnician creature in this one provided the only chuckle I can recall.
As everyone has said, the biggest asset MCU has over SW is the variation in setting and character (from movies in WWII to space fantasies akin to Star Wars). Whereas the new Star Wars trilogy follows a story too similar to the one we know from the Originals: an evil Empire wields Superweapon(s) against Outnumbered Rebels while Jedi face-off against Sith... again but with some different people.
I feel like the new Trilogy had a weaker over-arching storyline that was better executed (than the Prequels). The Prequels over-arching story (how the Republic Fell and Empire rose) was more original & interesting but dreadfully executed (via script and performances), IMO.
Neither Prequel nor Sequel trilogy lived up to what I had imagined, so my personal, solipsistic Canon simply leaves them out.
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I'd have almost preferred this to TLJ. (Warning - there are a couple of lines that may offend the snowflake generation....but it did air on broadcast TV at the time.)
Supreme Leader
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"pushing an agenda" see what I mean about worms for brains?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Well how successful franchises work is they need people to buy tickets...and home copies...and T-shirt’s...and toys....and pass it to kids
And the studios want the largest possible volume of that
How do you think that works?
You missed the point...bookings mean nothing...having it limp along wish no tickets sold make it like look worse.
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WhatJaneSays
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- The Last Jedi was at $1,791,497 on day 25
- It first went below 1m on day 34
- Then continued with over 1m day weekends, beyond this point peaking on a $3,168,473 day
- It fell permanently below 1m days on day 52
Supreme Leader
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There's no escaping political commentary in any Star Wars movie. It's all there. Always has been and always will be there. Sorry your such a snowflake about it.Because Rose Tico's Animal Rights speech was not agenda driven. - Got it
Funny. I was called a boomer a few posts back. Now I'm a snowflake. Truth is - I'm in between. My generation made the things the snowflakes can't live without and the boomers can't quite understand.
Tony Perkis
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It underperformed, but let’s be clear here: it still made $175 million over the weekend. Despite disappointing, claiming that it isn’t selling or nobody is seeing it is such a gross exaggeration that such boasts can’t be taken seriously.
Additionally, just as an education, theatres really don’t call the shots regarding what they show. Given Disney’s tyrannical control over its properties and the leverage it possesses, they negotiate everything with theatres: percentage of grosses over time, minimum number/percentage of screens per theatre, number of showing per day per theatre, minimum theatre size (seats per screening) and most important, minimum number of weeks the theatre is required to show the film in the previously mentioned terms.
Failure to adhere to those can result in the loss of the film license, as well as access to future film‘s under the Disney banner.
Since the theatre system’s most prominent distributor is Disney, they hold almost all leverage. Theatres don’t really get to call the shots.
Mouse Trap
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One million dollars a day is a lot of money to be making at the box office a month after release. A lot of people on this forum seem to be clueless on how successful of a film this is. Just because it’s not “Star Wars climax successful” doesn’t mean it’s still not a massive success.