-
Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.
Star Trek: Picard (Spoilers)
- Thread starter StarWarsGirl
- Start date
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I watched the first episode of season 2 last night.
I think they shook up the management - I believe? - it was reported?
That episode was far more familiar/ “starfleet-y” than the first season. It seemed clear that they went a little more nostalgia. It reminded me a bit of First Contact.
Better. I think?
I think they shook up the management - I believe? - it was reported?
That episode was far more familiar/ “starfleet-y” than the first season. It seemed clear that they went a little more nostalgia. It reminded me a bit of First Contact.
Better. I think?
Rich Brownn
Well-Known Member
I think "You impressed me" was the really unsettling moment...
Screamface
Well-Known Member
They clearly aren't interested in making something that is Trekky.
Who would think we'd ever had Data running over Picard in a Tesla?! Then the writers being unsure of how to proceed because they made Picard a robot. It's so dumb.
Rich Brownn
Well-Known Member
He's a synth not a robot. He ages, eats, etc just like a normal human, except created synthetically. Data was a sentient robot - all mechanical, doesn't age or eat etc.
Wendy Pleakley
Well-Known Member
Stewart didn't want to do a show that was a retread of Next Gen so I'm sure that influenced the content.
Having said that, time travelling to the past to correct an altered timeline is not new to Star Trek at all. It's just different to make it the focus of an entire season.
I suspect Season 3 will be popular given the cast announcement.
Having said that, time travelling to the past to correct an altered timeline is not new to Star Trek at all. It's just different to make it the focus of an entire season.
I suspect Season 3 will be popular given the cast announcement.
Screamface
Well-Known Member
season 2 finale wasn’t that bad. hated what they did with Q. such a good character
It was fine for what proceeded, but the season was an absolute mess.
Wendy Pleakley
Well-Known Member
The finale was relatively satisfying in terms of wrapping up the story. It was a bit anti-climactic in that we knew how things would go.
This story didn't need ten episodes. I wish they'd spent more time in the alternate future because a dark or mirror universe is always fun.
Didn't really feel we needed a drawn out depressing backstory for Picard at this point either.
It was fine, just so much filler.
This story didn't need ten episodes. I wish they'd spent more time in the alternate future because a dark or mirror universe is always fun.
Didn't really feel we needed a drawn out depressing backstory for Picard at this point either.
It was fine, just so much filler.
Screamface
Well-Known Member
There was a similar problem with the first season. There wasn't a bigger story idea to justify the length of the season. So it just seemed to start a story, then pad it out with ideas.
Season 1 felt like they started a story with lots of ideas. Padded it out with ideas and was pretty directionless. Then ended up changing their mind or they didn't really know where it was going to begin with. So the ending didn't feel like it really matched the build-up.
This felt like they started with an idea, then mistakenly decided to set most of the season in the past. When the story didn't call for it. Then just padded the season with a bunch of ideas that weren't fully formed for the characters around Picard. Then that wasn't enough. So they added the Soong storyline to pad it out more.
There's also the problem with Patrick Stewart's own musings on life and aging in the writer's room. Where it seems no one wants to tell him he's a different person than the character.
It felt like they had the idea for an episode. Then just went, "what else can we do." Where none of them were really story ideas in their own.
I find it amusing the season took place over 4 days.
artvandelay
Well-Known Member
I think Discovery suffers from the same problem. The main story line can be wrapped up in 4 episodes.
Wendy Pleakley
Well-Known Member
I'd say Discovery does it a bit better. Each episode seems to be about a specific issue, even if part of the bigger story arc. Discovery is also flexible enough that they can throw in a standalone story if need be. With Picard, once they're in the past there's no flexibility, and some of the season felt like filler.
I like serialized storytelling, but there's something to be said for the old days when they could do a two-parter at most. It forced the writers to keep it tight. Season two could have been a great 5 or 6 episode movie-ish length story. It was just a bit too stretched to fill ten episodes.
Stewart has had a lot of influence on the stories since the TNG movies started. He's the one who wanted a personal story for Picard in Generations, and similar to the current show we got a depressing personal crisis that dragged the movie down.
With First Contact he was the the one who suggested flipping the original script, which would have kept Riker on the ship fighting the Borg and Picard on the surface. I'll give him credit on that one, you want the captain to be in the center of the action and it makes more sense given that Picard's relationship with the Borg is key to the story.
artvandelay
Well-Known Member
The last season of Enterprise did the 3 to 4 episode arc very well. That show was hitting its prime when it was canceled.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
It’s 3x better than 1 and 3,000 times better than the other
mf1972
Well-Known Member
other than that episode when they were living out a story from a book, it was a solid season
Wendy Pleakley
Well-Known Member
I didn't love that episode but it was a fun way to let the actors play against type and ham it up a bit. It certainly wasn't any less silly than the body swapping episode. That one had me asking, are they really doing this? Yet it worked well in the end.
SNW delivered on classic Trek in that it was borderline silly at times, but could still be taken seriously, and had a sense of fun.
Picard was a bit dreary. How many episodes did they drag out his mother's dark and dull story for?
mf1972
Well-Known Member
i practically said the same thing to my wife. “how many episodes do i have to watch picard having mommy issues?”